Excellent hires, its good to see Tedford comming up so big on such short notice

no question, these guys are proven, productive, and nfl experinced as players and coaches. Better fitting for who we are at the very top of the food chain in my opinion. So we take a hit in the short term, rather build this way than a house of twitter cards. A top 15,top 19 class, I will take it gladly, it will be 100% pure blue and gold stock of student athlete. Bring only those players here please! The rest can go to wherever else they desire. Go Bears!!!!

We're are already better with these new coaches. Players should be pumped. LOI days will also be great for the team. 224 days until Cal vs. Nevada!

Congratulations, Jeff Tedford, and thank you for a job well done. Wes Chandler and Todd Howard are outstanding hires, and I somehow wish I could remember the names of the coaches they are replacing. As I believe MB and others have noted, head coaches keep lists and stay prepared to find replacements in the event they lose assistants from their staffs. It is clear that Tedford has met this challenge that comes with being a head coach. Tedford is due high praise and congratulations, and I believe Chandler and Howard will bring outstanding results. They will find a wealth of talent waiting for them at Cal, ready to be coached, and a re-built stadium and awesome facilities in which to work. On a clear day, you can see forever from Memorial Stadium. I can't wait for kickoff 2012!

Could it be that the new, improved facilities attract not only players but coaches too?

To borrow from a Bruce Snyder line - with these hires we're all steak and no sizzle.<br /><br />So many of the recent hires have been former pro players and coaches, it can't be an accident.<br /><br />I think it is clear the direction the program is taking and the sales pitch we're going to give to recruits: world class education, top notch facilities, premier location, top conference and a staff that is uniquely qualified to prepare you to play at the next level.<br /><br />Time will tell if this is an effective strategy - some kids are obviously going to be swayed by sales pitches of people that play Xbox. But ultimately I like this direction as it appears to be fundamentally grounded in substance over style, something that seems consistent with the Cal's mission. I hope the message resonates and we don't see a drop off in recuiting. But if we miss out on some 5 star recruits but deliver on the field and kids graduate, then I still like it.

I spoke to one of the younger players about the new hire and he is definitely excited about the prospect of learning from Howard. He's a DL and very confident things will improve and we won't see a drop off of any kind next year.

Totally agree. Two excellent additions to the Cal Bear family!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Bear_Territory;688428 said:</div><hr>Excellent hires, its good to see Tedford comming up so big on such short notice<hr></blockquote><br /><br />"...so big?" Size, skill, experience, coaching ability, recruiting, organization, communication, play calling, acute perceptiveness...attendance? What was the objective?<br /><br />Why did the late xUcla Coach Neuheisal can Coach Howard (a hold over?). For inability to meet his recruiting objective?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">southseasbear;688540 said:</div><hr>Could it be that the new, improved facilities attract not only players but coaches too?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />IIRC some of the past prospects for coaching positions at Cal were very dismissive of Cal because of the antiquated facilities.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">oskihasahearton;688583 said:</div><hr>"...so big?" Size, skill, experience, coaching ability, recruiting, organization, communication, play calling, acute perceptiveness...attendance? What was the objective?<br /><br />QUOTE]<br /><br />Do you question that Wes and Todd are upgrades as coaches over Eric and To$h?<br />On paper, they look clearly better than their predecessors.<br />We can't compare recruiting skills as yet and maybe not until next year.

Pretty good hires. Applying lessons learned...should all the coaches get a small bump in salary AND the addition of a clause that allows leaving for a conference foe only with a payment? If other schools continue to throw money around we need a poison pill to control things. Also some sort of escalation the closer they get to LOI day. In other words if COACH leaves 1st week of January then he has to pay X and if he leaves the 2nd week in January he pays 2X. Similar constraints for other milestone dates.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">GivemTheAxe;688584 said:</div><hr>IIRC some of the past prospects for coaching positions at Cal were very dismissive of Cal because of the antiquated facilities.<hr></blockquote><br />I can't believe that the hiring of Blasquez and the completion of the SAHPC is mere coincidence. What good strength and conditioning coach would have come with our old facilities. There is little question in my mind of the difference Blasquez has made, just wait until next year when we actually use the facilities!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">tequila4kapp;688545 said:</div><hr>To borrow from a Bruce Snyder line - with these hires we're all steak and no sizzle.<br /><br />So many of the recent hires have been former pro players and coaches, it can't be an accident.<br /><br />I think it is clear the direction the program is taking and the sales pitch we're going to give to recruits: world class education, top notch facilities, premier location, top conference and a staff that is uniquely qualified to prepare you to play at the next level.<br /><br />Time will tell if this is an effective strategy - some kids are obviously going to be swayed by sales pitches of people that play Xbox. But ultimately I like this direction as it appears to be fundamentally grounded in substance over style, something that seems consistent with the Cal's mission. I hope the message resonates and we don't see a drop off in recuiting. But if we miss out on some 5 star recruits but deliver on the field and kids graduate, then I still like it.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Tequilla, another similar expression in Texas "Big hat, no cattle."<br /><br />My oldest daughter also said there is an inverse relationship for guys: the larger the truck the smaller the penis. Perhaps it aplies to boats as well.

<b>[SIZE="5"]THE GOOD NEWS[/SIZE]</b><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br /><b>Yahoo, here's to <i>blueblood's</i> [SIZE="6"]10,000th[/SIZE] post!</b><br /><br /><b>[SIZE="5"]THE QUESTIONING NEWS[/SIZE]</b><br /><br />Okay, Tedford's hires seemed experienced; this may be good. But, uhh, I was wondering what Tedford's thinking was when he hired Todd Howard. Remember he was the defensive line coach at Wazzu, and he was out of work as their new coach didn't retain todd babes. <br /><br />Cal had its [U]second best [/U] rushing total (292) against Wazzu's DL (and this includes the Blue Hose game). Cal's best rushing total (296) was against the Beavers and that was only by 4 extra yards. Only two other teams, ASU and the Blue Hose, allowed Cal more than 200 yards rushing (247 and 285, respectively). So, Howard's DL didn't do that well against Cal's anemic running game. I can only assume that Todd babes' real advantage is that he has solid recruiting ins into the LA area, at least I hope so. I'm just wondering before I go goo goo and declare Tedford's new hires an upgrade.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Blueblood;688708 said:</div><hr><b>[SIZE="5"]THE GOOD NEWS[/SIZE]</b><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br /><b>Yahoo, here's to <i>blueblood's</i> [SIZE="6"]10,000th[/SIZE] post!</b><br /><br /><b>[SIZE="5"]THE QUESTIONING NEWS[/SIZE]</b><br /><br />Okay, Tedford's hires seemed experienced; this may be good. But, uhh, I was wondering what Tedford's thinking was when he hired Todd Howard. Remember he was the defensive line coach at Wazzu, and he was out of work as their new coach didn't retain todd babes. <br /><br />Cal had its [U]second best [/U] rushing total (292) against Wazzu's DL (and this includes the Blue Hose game). Cal's best rushing total (296) was against the Beavers and that was only by 4 extra yards. Only two other teams, ASU and the Blue Hose, allowed Cal more than 200 yards rushing (247 and 285, respectively). So, Howard's DL didn't do that well against Cal's anemic running game. I can only assume that Todd babes' real advantage is that he has solid recruiting ins into the LA area, at least I hope so.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />True, but even good coaching can't make up for a lack of talent, which we had more off up front against Wazzu. But when he coached at UCLA their front gave up an average of 90 yrds pre game. Both teams saw an improvement under Coach Howard, and their respective fans both wish he wasn't fired or let go.<br /><br />and I feel honored to have BB 10,000 post in a thread I started

I'd stop way short of calling these outstanding/excellent hires. Chandler was coaching in the UFL while Howard was laid off of Wazzu's staff. They are solid though coaching wise, the staff will collectively need to pick up the recruiting effort with Lupoi gone or start winning.

Okay, I can buy that he can coach up talent or at least utilize player talents effectively when available.

Leach brought-in his own staff, which was finalized on the 13th of Jan. Todd has been out of work a little over a week...<br /><br />During some down years for UCLA, he recruited quite well for them and more importantly, their run D was stingy.<br /><br />Kudos to JT and staff.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;688764 said:</div><hr>I would have liked those positions to stay younger<hr></blockquote><br /><br />A slight concern of mine as well.

>"---Do you question that Wes and Todd are upgrades as coaches over Eric and To$h?<br />On paper, they look clearly better than their predecessors.<br />We can't compare recruiting skills as yet and maybe not until next year.---"<<br /><br />No. The comment was in regard to Coach Todd, not Coach Chandler. I questioned the fan's exuberance and wondered about the objective of the hire. Was it based on a need to move expeditiously or fill a critical need or both? With all due respect to the Coach, I think it will be a year or two before we find out if this was indeed a "big hire".<br /><br />So just do it. Go Bears!<br /><br />:beer:

Oh I understand that Leach brought in his own staff....this however doesn't address my concern. I mean, Leach brought in defensive-minded 'zona's DL coach Salave'a and didn't keep Todd babes, which would seem to be a positive thing to do if Todd babes was doing the bang up job as others here say and believe he has.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;688884 said:</div><hr>Agreed. Two unemployed hires. It will be a while before we find out if we were lucky to have two great coaches available or otherwise.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />If you're going for NFL experience -- which I believe is the new Cal recruiting line (the best "education" in all contexts), it's highly likely that they would be unemployed hires. Presently employed NFL positions coaches are highly unlikely to jump down to the college level. 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two thoughts...<br /><br />first I wasnt impressed with the new hires at all. I was hoping for Tedford to make a huge splash but he just did two "safe" hires.<br /><br />Then I realized its just position coaches and that we are treating it like these are make or break coaches. <br /><br />safe and good hires, but definitely not great

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CALigulabob;689174 said:</div><hr>two thoughts...<br /><br />first I wasnt impressed with the new hires at all. I was hoping for Tedford to make a huge splash but he just did two "safe" hires.<br /><br />Then I realized its just position coaches and that we are treating it like these are make or break coaches. <br /><br />safe and good hires, but definitely not great<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Who would you suggest as "great"?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">72CalBear;689178 said:</div><hr>Who would you suggest as "great"?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I think what alot of us were hoping for, somebody more recognizable and with more potential in recruiting. <br /><br />But like I said, my expectations were originally higher because of Tosh's extra recruiting ability. But its just position coaches and they arent going to be make or break guys anyway. So I still think their good, just not blown away.<br /><br />In my dream world, Jerry Rice would have been a GREAT hire! lol

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CALigulabob;689184 said:</div><hr>I think what alot of us were hoping for, somebody more recognizable and with more potential in recruiting. <br /><br />But like I said, my expectations were originally higher because of Tosh's extra recruiting ability. But its just position coaches and they arent going to be make or break guys anyway. So I still think their good, just not blown away.<br /><br />In my dream world, Jerry Rice would have been a GREAT hire! lol<hr></blockquote><br /><br />What are JR's coaching credentials?<br />I really liked him as a player; but as a coach??????

<blockquote><div class="name-said">GivemTheAxe;689185 said:</div><hr>What are JR's coaching credentials?<br />I really liked him as a player; but as a coach??????<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Mobile so can't tell ya<br /><br />But id assume that the greatest wr to ever play would at least be a competent position coach. <br /><br />It was more of a joke but who wouldn't be absolutely ecstatic if he were hired?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;688764 said:</div><hr>I would have liked those positions to stay younger<hr></blockquote><br /><br />The less experienced mr lupoi was swayed by $ and attention from sark.<br /><br />Hiring coaches with more experience is not such a bad idea if you don't have a ready-to-promote coach on campus.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CALigulabob;689187 said:</div><hr>Mobile so can't tell ya<br /><br />But id assume that the greatest wr to ever play would at least be a competent position coach. <br /><br />It was more of a joke but who wouldn't be absolutely ecstatic if he were hired?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Again. I have a lot of respect for JR as a player. But a great player does not always make a great coach. Many times things come so naturally and instinctively for the really great players that they cannot explain it or teach it to people who are not as great.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">GivemTheAxe;689191 said:</div><hr>Again. I have a lot of respect for JR as a player. But a great player does not always make a great coach. Many times things come so naturally and instinctively for the really great players that they cannot explain it or teach it to people who are not as great.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Well if we were to assume that JR was a legit candidate, would he be interested in any position less than position coach? So to argue he could potentially be a bust as a position coach is besides the point because I think if we had a shot, a person of his stature would be a gamble anyway and only time would tell if he pans out or not.