Chipper's Staff Meetings About to get Awwkwaaard!

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5:53p, 1/26/12

From ProFootballTalk.com<br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">Quote:</div><hr><b>Oregon had already replaced Chip Kelly when he changed his mind<br /></b><br /><br />Michael Berk of KGW, who broke the news that a deal was close, recently told WDAE radio in Tampa (via JoeBucsFan.com) that Kelly indeed had accepted the job and that <b>Oregon had given Kelly's title to offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich.</b> <br /><br />So Kelly had to actually get his job back, after he had a change of heart.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />:rollinglaugh:<br /><br />That's GOT to make for some fun coaches' meetings next year.<br /><br />Coach Kelly: "All right coaches, let's get ready for a big season in 2012!! Everybody fired up?!"<br /><br />Offensive Coordinator Mark Helfrich: [Grumble Grumble]<br /><br />Coach Kelly: "What was that, Mark?"<br /><br />Mark Helfrich: [Inaudible] <br /><br />Poor Coach Helfrich, he was head coach of Oregon about as long as we were #1 in the nation before Riley decided to scramble against OSU. :p<br /><br />But seriously, two observations:<br /><br />(1) I was truly surprised that UofKnight decided to avoid the "celebrity chef" route - i.e. Boise's Peterson - for some home-cooking. I guess they value continuity within their system (like Furd and SC did) over a big name hire that could lure top recruits. Not sure it would pay off for them in the long term like it did for SC...Stanford's imminent fall is a more apt comparison.<br /><br />(2) Most definitely, Chip Kelly is gone next year after another NFL team gets more desperate and cedes more control and money to him. Remember Pete Carroll had a dalliance with the Dolphins a season before he left for the Sea-Chickens. I think if Huizenga had offered Carroll a better deal, he might have left on the spot. Same for the Bucs and Chipper. <br /><br />All it takes is a restless fanbase and another dismal performance in the eyes of an owner before they really turn the franchise over to someone like Kelly. I could easily see Jerry Jones and the Cowgirls getting that desperate, if they bomb out of next season.<br /><br />Chipper has shown his true heart lies in the NFL - it's only a matter of time.<br /><br />Things that make you go hmmm....right Shaq?

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In reply to CalGrad95 • 5:57p, 1/26/12

After what we went through, I am not going to take any pleasure from any instability at Oregon or Rutgers. The only instability that will have me laughing will be the one coming up in Washington.

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In reply to calbear93 • 6:04p, 1/26/12

That's okay, I can laugh for both of us.<br /><br />And the Leghumpers aren't blocking our path to the Rose Bowl (even with coach Loopy). We could have easily beaten them last year with a QB not named Zach Maynard.<br /><br />But the Floats most certainly are.<br /><br />Chip Kelly's impending move to the NFL will have a far more significant impact on our long term success than Tosh's leaving -- bank it.

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In reply to CalGrad95 • 6:10p, 1/26/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CalGrad95;692841 said:</div><hr>That's okay, I can laugh for both of us.<br /><br />And the Leghumpers aren't blocking our path to the Rose Bowl (even with coach Loopy). We could have easily beaten them last year with a QB not named Zach Maynard.<br /><br />But the Floats most certainly are.<br /><br />Chip Kelly's impending move to the NFL will have a far more significant impact on our long term success than Tosh's leaving -- bank it.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Fair enough. However, I hold no grudge against Kelly. He is just a damn fine coach, and he is finding ways to exploit the rules to have a high-powered offense. I would rather us coach and execute better to beat Oregon than wish any harm to their program.

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In reply to calbear93 • 6:49p, 1/26/12

Nobody I talk to believes the report that Helfrich had already been promoted, but even if he had... It's obvious you don't know much about the Oregon staff if you think things will be awkward between Helfrich and Kelly. Helfrich was having a mediocre run at Colorado when Kelly invited him to come home to Oregon, and they've had a collaborative working relationship running the offense ever since. And Helfrich personally is very laid back and easy-going, and unlikely to be phazed by this if true. It's also far from a given that CK tries to jump for the league the next chance he gets.

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In reply to BellottiBold • 7:12p, 1/26/12

BellottiBold: "It's also far from a given that CK tries to jump for the league the next chance he gets." <br /><br />What does "far from a given" mean? Sounds like double talk for "Who knows, he might."

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In reply to 79 Bear • 9:15a, 1/27/12

Probably would've been an interim coach.

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In reply to BellottiBold • 11:57a, 1/27/12

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In reply to CalGrad95 • 12:14p, 1/27/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CalGrad95;692841 said:</div><hr>That's okay, I can laugh for both of us.<br /><br />And the Leghumpers aren't blocking our path to the Rose Bowl (even with coach Loopy). We could have easily beaten them last year with a QB not named Zach Maynard.<br /><br />But the Floats most certainly are.<br /><br />Chip Kelly's impending move to the NFL will have a far more significant impact on our long term success than Tosh's leaving -- bank it.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Ahhhh. remember the days when PC leaving USC was all that was keeping us from the top...<br /><br />Now it is 2 or 3 coaches, and 2 more on deck.

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In reply to CalGrad95 • 12:16p, 1/27/12

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In reply to Phantomfan • 12:18p, 1/27/12

There's a lot of chatter suggesting a positive response from recruits to Chip's brutal honesty in their living rooms.<br /><br />And that said, saying that he can't promise he'll be coaching at Oregon in 5 years doesn't mean that he won't be coaching at Oregon in 5 years... it means he's not comfortable making promises that he doesn't know he'll be able to keep. It means he has made no decision one way or the other.

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In reply to BellottiBold • 12:23p, 1/27/12

Spin much.....every coach can say the same exact line.

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In reply to BellottiBold • 12:35p, 1/27/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BellottiBold;693334 said:</div><hr>There's a lot of chatter suggesting a positive response from recruits to Chip's brutal honesty in their living rooms.<br /><br />And that said, saying that he can't promise he'll be coaching at Oregon in 5 years doesn't mean that he won't be coaching at Oregon in 5 years... it means he's not comfortable making promises that he doesn't know he'll be able to keep. It means he has made no decision one way or the other.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I have to agree with you there. That is a ballsy but honest way to tell it. Much better than claiming that he will be there for a long time and then leaving soon thereafter. With all the musical chair going on with coaches and assistant coaches, it isn't as if the kids are going to be fooled by anything else anyway. It does grant him some credibility. However, it does also hit home that those same recruits better love the school itself and the neighborhood because coaches come and go and the recent success is no indication of future success.

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In reply to calbear93 • 1:47p, 1/27/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">calbear93;693359 said:</div><hr> However, it does also hit home that those same recruits better love the school itself and the neighborhood because coaches come and go and the recent success is no indication of future success.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Absolutely, and I think CK would be warning kids in the same way...

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In reply to calbear93 • 2:04p, 1/27/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">calbear93;693359 said:</div><hr><b>I have to agree with you there. That is a ballsy but honest way to tell it. Much better than claiming that he will be there for a long time and then leaving soon thereafter.</b> With all the musical chair going on with coaches and assistant coaches, it isn't as if the kids are going to be fooled by anything else anyway. It does grant him some credibility. However, it does also hit home that those same recruits better love the school itself and the neighborhood because coaches come and go and the recent success is no indication of future success.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I was NOT ballsy at all. If he had claimed he would never have been believed. So it was the only smart. Armstead is a smart guy. He would have seen through the lie. <br />So why not own up. "Yeah, I am outta here in a year, but come anyway.<br />Better me than someone who can't get any other offers."<br /><br />Like all magicians Chip does not want Armstead to focus on what is important. <br />What Chip is not saying is, well you will have to get used to a new coach, maybe a change in style of play; clearly a change in personalities; and no way to know how well that coach will position you for the NFL. But come anyway.

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In reply to 68great • 2:12p, 1/27/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">68great;693430 said:</div><hr> <br />What Chip is not saying is, well you will have to get used to a new coach, maybe a change in style of play; clearly a change in personalities; and no way to know how well that coach will position you for the NFL. But come anyway.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />There's no coach in the country that can claim to be an exception to what you just wrote. Not one.

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In reply to BellottiBold • 2:56p, 1/27/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BellottiBold;693441 said:</div><hr>There's no coach in the country that can claim to be an exception to what you just wrote. Not one.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />So your excuse is "there are no guaranties in life".<br /><br />But there are some coaches who are more stable in their positions than others because they are comfortable where they are. Of course, they might be forced to leave because of circumstances beyond their control. <br /><br />Chip is obviously NOT comfortable where he is.<br />He is more likely than, for example, Tedford, to leave very soon.<br /><br />If JT were to say to a kid, "I am at Cal for the long haul." He would be credible.<br />Of course he could die or could be fired. But if it were up to him, he would in all likelihood be there when the recruit graduates. <br /><br />If Chip were to say to a kid, "I am at UO for the long haul." He could not be believed.<br />Everyone knows he would be voluntarily gone with a better offer from the NFL.

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In reply to 68great • 3:14p, 1/27/12

Disagree. If CK were to tell a kid he'd be in Eugene for the "long haul" it would actually be quite credible on the heels of him turning down a ridiculous offer to jump to the NFL.<br /><br />And you have no way of knowing how happy/satisfied he is in his current situation.

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In reply to BellottiBold • 4:28p, 1/27/12

in the next decade. :cry:

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In reply to BellottiBold • 5:06p, 1/27/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BellottiBold;693502 said:</div><hr>Disagree. If CK were to tell a kid he'd be in Eugene for the "long haul" it would actually be quite credible on the heels of him turning down a ridiculous offer to jump to the NFL.<br /><br /><b>And you have no way of knowing how happy/satisfied he is in his current situation</b>.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />No one knows what is in a person's heart of hearts -- Exhibit A = To$h Lupoi.<br />But I can look at someone's actions and come to a conclusion.<br />"Res Ipsa Loquitur"

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In reply to CalGrad95 • 11:55p, 1/27/12

NOthing awkward with the chipper<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="

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In reply to ColoradoBear • 12:13a, 1/28/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">ColoradoBear1;693863 said:</div><hr>NOthing awkward with the chipper<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="

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In reply to PDXDuckFan • 12:34a, 1/28/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">PDXDuckFan;693869 said:</div><hr>Put a UW cap on him and an XBox remote in his hand, and that's exactly how I see Tosh Lupoi right now as he desperately tries to save UW's recruiting class. :cheer<hr></blockquote><br /><br />where are the cal photoshoppers?!!?

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In reply to BellottiBold • 7:11a, 1/28/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BellottiBold;693441 said:</div><hr>There's no coach in the country that can claim to be an exception to what you just wrote. Not one.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Mack Brown.

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In reply to biely medved • 10:14a, 1/28/12

the other thing that might point to him staying for a while is his history as the Offensive Coordinator at the Univ. of New Hampshire which was his alma mater. His fast attack spread offenses racked up rushing records and blowout wins year after year which predictably had other programs interested in him. Reportedly he listened to but ultimately turned down many other "better" jobs (HC title, more money, etc.) to remain the OC at UNH where he coached from 1994-2006. <br /><br />to me he's always seemed like a football junkie living his dream. Theres a longtime girlfriend, but he has never married or had a kid. I've never heard of him having a hobby. Though the 3 mil he's making annually isn't chump change especially in Eugene, he again has turned down a huge raise to stay put. The Ducks have a very stable group of assistant coaches many who have been at UO for over a decade. Of course the actual football facilities are 2nd to none. Eugene's rain doesn't fall inside the indoor practice field or likely bother a New Hampshire native much. It's a pretty good gig for a football junkie

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In reply to CalGrad95 • 10:19a, 1/28/12

I have a theory that head coaches who wear visors are douches. See Chip, Lane and Sark...