I just received this open letter to Commissioner Scott, great read!

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gobears3000
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Dear Commissioner Scott,

I was disappointed to read in today's news that the Pac-12 office declined the University of California's request to have additional home visits scheduled as a remedy for Tosh Lupoi's unethical recruiting of student-athletes to the University of Washington while he was employed by Cal. By tacitly condoning Lupoi's behavior on behalf of Washington - which was unethical at best and tortious interference/fraud at worst - this conference will continue a slide toward the disgraceful example set by the SEC for years.

It was bad enough that Colorado and Utah were able to demand - successfully - a place in the Pac-12 South, despite the fact that: (a) Cal and Stanford are geographically south of those two schools; and (b) it placed at risk a century of traditional rivalries among the four California schools. While you did the right thing in the end by preserving those rivalries, the idea that two schools asking to join our conference could dictate the terms of their admission was disturbing. It is equally disturbing to see that traditional November rivalry games can be forced to October by majority vote - creating the same opportunity for factionalism and conspiracy that led the Pac-10/12 Basketball Tournament to permanently be played in Los Angeles.

Likewise, I am greatly dismayed that Steve Sarkesian has fired the first shot toward wasting all of the incremental revenues from the Pac-12's new television contract on coaching salaries. I had hoped this revenue could be used to support student-athletes, particularly those in non-revenue sports that have been at risk of cancellation over the past few years. Unfortunately, by adopting the cash-is-king mentality of college football, Mr. Sarkesian has virtually guaranteed a salary war that will only end up hurting student-athletes across the conference. In addition, the timing of Mr. Sarkesian's conspiracy with Tosh Lupoi to destroy the University of California's recruiting class - including an admission from one recruit that Lupoi had told him to keep his options open as he was likely to jump to UW, despite ostensibly being there as a representative of Cal, exhibits a complete lack of character. Obviously character is not a strong suit for Pete Carroll or his coaching tree, nor is it one for Mr. Lupoi (who admittedly coached players to fake injuries, disgracing Cal on national television). Yet by standing idly by and allowing Sarkesian and Lupoi to get away with their scheme, the Pac-12 Conference has gone on record that it doesn't matter how you win. The Conference is willing to fine coaches for criticizing officials (even when the officiating is - as it has been in this conference for years - atrocious), but not for back-handed and disgraceful conduct.

You are, no doubt, an improvement over Tom Hansen (who didn't seem to do anything, even when our conference was under attack. But I would urge you to spend as much time focused on maintaining traditions as you do on raising money. And to demand the highest levels of integrity, honor, and sportsmanship from coaches and players, demonstrating that we are not the SEC, we do believe in the purity of collegiate athletics, and that we can do it the right way and still win with class.

Best regards,

Jeff Ogar
Cal '99
SanseiBear
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Wow, great letter!

:cheer:gobears::cheer
Phantomfan
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You wrote a letter and said great read.

:rollinglaugh:
NYCGOBEARS
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Great letter. It will never get past the assistant to Larry's admin.
CalGangOrDie
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NYCGOBEARS;702335 said:

Great letter. It will never get past the assistant to Larry's

At least he tried. Much respect for the letter
bearagze
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Aside from the part about Lupoi ordering fake injuries on his own......
okaydo
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Why does Jeff Ogar's name sound so familiar?

He's from my Cal era.
socaltownie
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Fantastic letter. Be sure to post the auto-response you will get.

But it does, I think, particularly highlight something they have to be concerned with - that there are programs around the country that are going "Hey that works" and a bunch of assistant coaches that are going "Hey, I want a boat TOO!!"

I work as an economist and incentives matter. I can tell you that the rational behavior moving forward for assistants, who have low job security (we would call this a high discount factor on future earnings) is cement a PERSONAL relationship with the hotest recruit you can. Indeed, given high rewards, low risk, and low cost, there are strong incentives to make that relationship monetary.

You don't need to be a rocket scientists to see what happens next. Head Coaches, in many cases with a strong incentive to win NOW will hear about To$h II and how he is a "package deal" with the next Cam Newton or High School stud X. Bidding wars will ensure. And the NCAA will continue to cheapen its brand, something that is truly becoming a longish term problem.
gobears3000
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I DID NOT WRITE this letter. I received the letter forwarded from Cal fans and posted here. Hence the words "I just received". Phantom read all the post before retort! Go Bears!
kaplanfx
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I have a couple issues with this letter.

1) NOW we are completely pinning the injury gate on To$h? I think we should keep our mouth shut on that one.

2) Not sure I understand the point of the CO Utah tangent???

3) Why is Pete Carroll mentioned? Just as an example of a weasel?

Other than that pretty good letter.

-kap
run2win
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Agree with you on these points. By injecting these needless points, the author weakens his main point.
Troll On You Bears
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kaplanfx;702375 said:

I have a couple issues with this letter.

1) NOW we are completely pinning the injury gate on To$h? I think we should keep our mouth shut on that one.

2) Not sure I understand the point of the CO Utah tangent???

3) Why is Pete Carroll mentioned? Just as an example of a weasel?

Other than that pretty good letter.

-kap


I agree. This letter seemed to go off on a bunch of tangents (inclusion of new schools, injurygate, officiating, Pete Carroll) that make it look like a rant instead of a well-reasoned, focused appeal.

I don't see a letter like this doing us any favors. Let our athletic department handle stuff like this. (I know this isn't your work, 3000, so I'm not pointing the finger at you.)
BoaltBear
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There's an open paren in the final paragraph.
GB54
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The letter blows after the first paragraph.
gobears3000
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I posted this letter, because I agree with most of its points. 1. Although I understand TL going to another school for more money, the way he did it and the "visit" was unethical and wrong. 2. Cal and Stanford, should have been in the same division as UCLA/USC, so as not to have to play 2 extra league games, to keep the rivalry. 3. Pete Carroll was/is a weasel and what SS did, with the crazy pay of one jr assistant, changes the makeup of what is a usual and customary salary for said jr assistant coach, which will have ramifications in the future. 4. After watching our bowl game and comparing the officiating in that game by I believe SEC officials, with regular season games, pac 12 officials, I can definitively surmise that our officiating SUCKS and needs improvement! Anyway, Go Bears! PS posted Treggs commitment video, if you have not seen it, def a feel good Cal moment!
run2win
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+1
Papitobear
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Great letter!

Tell it like how it is!

I'd like to add my name to that letter!

:gobears:
2ndQtrBear
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GB54;702402 said:

The letter blows after the first paragraph.


Agreed. Good start, but the letter quickly deteriorates from airing Cal's legitimate grievances against UW to a whining, accusatory email that rips the commissioner's office more than Sark, Tosh, et al.
calbear93
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2ndQtrBear;702447 said:

Agreed. Good start, but the letter quickly deteriorates from airing Cal's legitimate grievances against UW to a whining, accusatory email that rips the commissioner's office more than Sark, Tosh, et al.


I agree. I would have focused on his desire to be a trailbrazer and not a reactionary person. I would have focused on the main purpose of the commissioner, which is to maintain the health and integrity of the entire athletic programs at the Pac-12 schools. I would have stated that this trend of circumventing the rule against paying for recruits by paying for recruiters and allowing those recruiters to turn around and use confidential information of the former employee violates the spirit and sportsmanship of college athletics. This is a Pac-12 issue and not just a Cal issue. Bad-mouthing other schools isn't going to make the argument any more persuasive.
calbear93
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Go!Bears;702458 said:

How classic is it that 1Big *** **** would not be able to see what UW did that was wrong...


I don't think he cares. He may be ignorant, but he is just trying to troll and get people to react. Who cares? At least we know where he is coming from and doesn't have to pretend to be a Cal fan.
Phantomfan
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SacCityBear;702352 said:

Larry is currently trying to end those games by pushing for an 8-game conference schedule.


Larry scott might be great for money, but money is bad for the game and the marginal trickle down to non-football sports and the school will be tiny.



That said, if the sport is headed that way, I am glad that the Pac (Cal) is keeping up. I just wish we were not leading the charge.
socaltownie
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Folks. Archive BigToejam's little missive someplace handy. If you don't thing Ed O isn't thinking "Wow, I wonder what the SEC would give me if _I_ bolted with a full class the year back off sanctions in late January" you don't know Ed.

I really could care less about flinging invectives at To$h. I think the lessons learned from this are really simple when it comes to reforms - a cooling off period for assistants hired in January. And if they think that is TOO restrictive then limit contact to just a recruit's official visit. One of the best things it would do - help sell PROGRAMS rather than coaches.
Rushinbear
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Wrong addressee. Should go to league presidents. They're the only ones who can make a meaningful change. At best, Scott can just nibble around the edges. Same with ADs.

The rule should be: no switch of assistants to another conference team until after LOI day, except for new HCs. And, the new HC/assistants can only contact players committed to another conference school if the player contacts them first, provably. Penalty - loss of 5 schollies for each of next two years. Investigations should be swift and definitive.
calbear93
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1BigTroyFan;702599 said:

A better solution for Cal would have been to match the UW offer. There are a million loop holes with your idea.


If you don't know what you are writing about, how about keeping quiet instead of yapping away. We matched two offers by UW. He didn't come back to us for the third offer. In fact, before he even let Tedford know (most likely because he promised Tedford that he won't further shop the deal), he started telling recruits not to go to Cal but instead consider Washington (while still a Cal employee). And how long do you do this back and forth and what is the limit? After the second one, it would have been almost blackmail that close to the signing day.
1947
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Don't ya just love Mr. SOUTHERN CAL..........and his conceps......Go Southern Cal....go
berkeleygirl17
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The executive assistant to Scott, is former Braun exec. Asst, Pat Cesnik. Go Bears !
gobears3000
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I like the way you think Rushinbear!
wifeisafurd
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1BigTroyFan;702446 said:

So what rules did UW break?


Can anyone here prove Udub had Tosh recruit for Udub while he was still at Cal? As far as I can tell, Sark even told Tedford in advance he was going to approach Tosh and Coach K. Tosh probably broke some rules which the Commish apparantly could care less about, but its not clear at all that Udub either solicited or encouraged Tosh's conduct or that Sark even played dirty.
diva1
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Bottom line we got caught with our pants down. By continuing to bring up this subject we look like big babies and it also brings up the embarrassing fact that our coach didn't realize the significance of social media.
Bear8
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I was under the impression that the money to pay Tosh and Kiesau came from Tyee, not the additional funds from television? Am I wrong?
Darby
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diva1;703311 said:

Bottom line we got caught with our pants down. By continuing to bring up this subject we look like big babies and it also brings up the embarrassing fact that our coach didn't realize the significance of social media.


I agree. Sandy will love all this talk since it takes the focus off the bumbling @Cal. Scott can't be happy Cal is spending the FB TV windfall on stuff like lacrosse while neglecting FB assistant coaching salaries. He isn't going to be doing Cal any favors.
bear2034
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A couple of good points noted but it read like sour grapes to me.
dupdadee
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1st p was good.

after that...

not so good.
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