Can you get Covid from tasting tears?

bearister said:

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Can you get Covid from tasting tears?

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Apparently Justin Turner did.

Thank you Dodgers

sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Wow. Snell was pulled pretty quickly! Probably not a bad decision given the analytics but I can see why he'd be upset.

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If the Rays go on to lose this that will be the thing they regret.

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Hindsight is 20/20 but that was a turning point.

dimitrig said:

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sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Wow. Snell was pulled pretty quickly! Probably not a bad decision given the analytics but I can see why he'd be upset.

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If the Rays go on to lose this that will be the thing they regret.

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Hindsight is 20/20 but that was a turning point.

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I think most people thought in the moment that was a mistake.

Lifetime total: 3-1.5. Still feeling good.

dimitrig said:

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Wow. Snell was pulled pretty quickly! Probably not a bad decision given the analytics but I can see why he'd be upset.

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Pulling a pitcher that is dominating is always a bad idea and it was again, which is why analytics is overrated in my view

It was just reported that Justin Turner tested positive yesterday and was asked not to play today, but he did anyway.

He tested positive again today and then was pulled from the game.

Irresponsible.

dimitrig said:

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It was just reported that Justin Turner tested positive yesterday and was asked not to play today, but he did anyway.

He tested positive again today and then was pulled from the game.

Irresponsible.

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I believe you're referring to this:

Rosenthal's report was confusing, but I think you misunderstood what he was saying. what Rosenthal was saying about Turner is not that he refused to not play in the game, but that he refused to not come on the field after the game for the celebration.

He clears it up here:

He should have been pulled in the 2nd. And honestly the game should have been stopped.

GMP said:

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dimitrig said:

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It was just reported that Justin Turner tested positive yesterday and was asked not to play today, but he did anyway.

He tested positive again today and then was pulled from the game.

Irresponsible.

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I believe you're referring to this:

Rosenthal's report was confusing, but I think you misunderstood what he was saying. what Rosenthal was saying about Turner is not that he refused to not play in the game, but that he refused to not come on the field after the game for the celebration.

He clears it up here:

He should have been pulled in the 2nd. And honestly the game should have been stopped.

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Thanks for the clarification.

So he was tested yesterday and the result came back in the 2nd inning after the game had started. (Way to go, MLB!)

It was positive, so ANOTHER test he had already taken today was expedited (why aren't they all?) and it ALSO came back positive which is when he was pulled.

Every player should have had a negative test result before the game even started. Pulling players in the middle of a game because MLB doesn't have their act together is messed up.

It turned out to be mostly inconsequential for the game itself in terms of play on the field, although who knows about the public health aspect?

MLB screwed this up.

Dodgers win! Dodgers win!

First the Lakers! Now the Dodgers! Next the Rams! Then the Cal Bears in the Rose Bowl?

Congratulations Dodgers fans. Your team is a good one.

This thread may eventually die because the Giants won't be good for a long time. Are there any Padres fans here?

oski003 said:

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This thread may eventually die because the Giants won't be good for a long time. Are there any Padres fans here?

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Lolll, saving this for 2022 when the Dodgers are old and bad and we win the division.

oski003 said:

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This thread may eventually die because the Giants won't be good for a long time. Are there any Padres fans here?

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I have a picture of myself in Little League in the 80s wearing a Padres uniform, so I could claim to be a lifelong fan should they start being good.

Kaworu said:

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dimitrig said:

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Wow. Snell was pulled pretty quickly! Probably not a bad decision given the analytics but I can see why he'd be upset.

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Pulling a pitcher that is dominating is always a bad idea and it was again, which is why analytics is overrated in my view

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One of the announcers came on right after the change and read a stat saying how badly Betts did against lefties. And how well he hit guys like who the Rays brought in. Snell dominated Betts last night so the move at that time seemed wrong and not data driven.

82gradDLSdad said:

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Kaworu said:

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dimitrig said:

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Wow. Snell was pulled pretty quickly! Probably not a bad decision given the analytics but I can see why he'd be upset.

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Pulling a pitcher that is dominating is always a bad idea and it was again, which is why analytics is overrated in my view

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One of the announcers came on right after the change and read a stat saying how badly Betts did against lefties. And how well he hit guys like who the Rays brought in. Snell dominated Betts last night so the move at that time seemed wrong and not data driven.

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And I think the guy they brought in had allowed an inherited runner to score in like his last 6 appearances (this one made 7). I'm sure he was great in the regular season, but at some point recent performance has to weigh in.

No team combines winning in the big leagues and churning out quality young talent like the Dodgers, who have slipped a bit in the rankings because they graduated Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, Dennis Santana and Edwin Ros this summer. It's the first time L.A. has not been in the top 10 since we started ranking farm systems in 2015. Don't forget Seager and Will Smith. Oh, and in 2022, Mookie Betts will be in his prime.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb.com/amp/news/2020-midseason-farm-systems-rankings.html

82gradDLSdad said:

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Kaworu said:

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dimitrig said:

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Wow. Snell was pulled pretty quickly! Probably not a bad decision given the analytics but I can see why he'd be upset.

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Pulling a pitcher that is dominating is always a bad idea and it was again, which is why analytics is overrated in my view

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One of the announcers came on right after the change and read a stat saying how badly Betts did against lefties. And how well he hit guys like who the Rays brought in. Snell dominated Betts last night so the move at that time seemed wrong and not data driven.

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It was data driven in that Snell really struggles the 3rd time through the lineup. His ERA in the first 4 innings was microscopic (0.xx) but in the 5th and beyond it was high (7.xx).

We saw that happen in Game 2 when he tossed a no-hitter and struck out 9 through 4 and then got hit in the 5th.

The blind squirrel and the acorn. Even Dave Roberts gets lucky. It was bound to happen. The seventh game of the WS and he throws in a bull pen game. 7 pitchers combine for 16 strike outs. See you all next year!

From someone who is definitely not a Dodger (or Laker) fan:

Congrats on the championship(s)! As much as it pains me to say it, the best team absolutely won.

(In both cases)

89Bear said:

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GMP said:

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oski003 said:

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This thread may eventually die because the Giants won't be good for a long time. Are there any Padres fans here?

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Lolll, saving this for 2022 when the Dodgers are old and bad and we win the division.

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LOL. Have you looked at how young most of the players are?

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Indeed I have. Have you? The average age of the Dodgers' eleven players with the most at bats this year (no one else had over 100): 28.5. In 2022, that would be 30.5. We now know players peak around 26 (people used to think 28).

The pipeline is actually pretty dry for hitters other than Lux (and Lux has certainly not proven himself with a career OPS+ of 74, which is 26% below league average) in 582 plate appearances.

By 2022, Turner will be gone, or 37. Many expect Seager will be gone. Other than Lux, Smith, and Bellinger, every current regular will be either gone or 29-30, if not well into their 30s.

The same goes for the pitching. They have one Top 100 prospect (Gray) who many see as hit or miss. Other than that, from every pitcher with more than 10 IP this year, the average age is 28. In 2022, it'll be 30. May and Buehler should be good. But Urias has a long injury history and no one else on the current roster projects as a starter. The rotation looks in better shape to me than the lineup, but there will still be a lot of question marks in 2022.

Fans think these things last forever. They don't. This run is already approximately 4 years in, if not longer. They've got 2, maybe 3 years left.

Edit: This is not to say they can't or won't fill these holes. They can. But it's no guarantee.

Congrats Dodger fans. I was hoping the championship drought would continue, but LA was clearly the best team all season.

That decision to pull Snell was like an Onion parody of analytics-driven baseball managing. The guy had faced 18 batters, striking out 9, and had thrown only 73 pitches. He gives up a base hit on a ball not hit very hard, and he gets yanked. Ridiculous.

dimitrig said:

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It was just reported that Justin Turner tested positive yesterday and was asked not to play today, but he did anyway.

He tested positive again today and then was pulled from the game.

Irresponsible.

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I think the first test was inconclusive.

oski003 said:

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Lux, Rios, Seager, Bellinger, and Will Smith are potential MVP type players 25 and under on the Dodgers.

That core group of young hitters is better than almost every other team in the majors. Your analysis is shoddy and only worthy of a giants fan.

At least you acknowledged that the Dodgers have incredible young pitching talent.

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Plus, the Dodgers farm system is still highly rated. And don't underestimate their ability to get international players.

dimitrig said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Kaworu said:

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dimitrig said:

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Wow. Snell was pulled pretty quickly! Probably not a bad decision given the analytics but I can see why he'd be upset.

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Pulling a pitcher that is dominating is always a bad idea and it was again, which is why analytics is overrated in my view

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One of the announcers came on right after the change and read a stat saying how badly Betts did against lefties. And how well he hit guys like who the Rays brought in. Snell dominated Betts last night so the move at that time seemed wrong and not data driven.

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It was data driven in that Snell really struggles the 3rd time through the lineup. His ERA in the first 4 innings was microscopic (0.xx) but in the 5th and beyond it was high (7.xx).

We saw that happen in Game 2 when he tossed a no-hitter and struck out 9 through 4 and then got hit in the 5th.

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Ah, didn't know that. Another data point. Tough decision for Cash.

HighlandDutch said:

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Congrats Dodger fans. I was hoping the championship drought would continue, but LA was clearly the best team all season.

That decision to pull Snell was like an Onion parody of analytics-driven baseball managing. The guy had faced 18 batters, striking out 9, and had thrown only 73 pitches. He gives up a base hit on a ball not hit very hard, and he gets yanked. Ridiculous.

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The criticism of pulling Snell is almost universally agreed, but he also was pitching a no-hitter in game 2 until the fifth inning and then started to unravel.