sycasey;841971647 said:

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I don't think he played all that well against Nevada or SUU (and you have to consider the level of competition there).

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Well then you have to consider the level competition for our entire team. Maynard played well in those games relative to our other units.

BTW, Nevada is 5 and 1. Sagarin sees them as the #55 team so I don't think you can really count them as a cupcake like SUU.

Sagarin sees ASU as the #7 team and USC as #11 and Ohio State as #14.

calumnus;841971755 said:

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Well then you have to consider the level competition for our entire team. Maynard played well in those games relative to our other units.

BTW, Nevada is 5 and 1. Sagarin sees them as the #55 team so I don't think you can really count them as a cupcake like SUU.

Sagarin sees ASU as the #7 team and USC as #11 and Ohio State as #14.

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I really hope this represents genuine improvement for Maynard, but as I noted in another thread, I have seen this kind of tease before. I hope he has improved, but don't yet believe it.

mvargus;841971729 said:

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The first one just looked like a botched exchange where CJA didn't get a firm grip on the ball and it slipped through his arms.

The second one involving Bigelow was definitely a blown play. Maynard tried to hand it away like itwas a running play and Bigelow was thinking play-action. Not sure who missed the play call, but the result was a ball on the turf. I do konw that the QB is supposed to notice when/if the RB doesn't take the ball and pull it back, so Maynard should have kept the ball when Bigelow didn't reach for it.

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The TV analyst noted that it seemed like everyone involved was blocking like it was supposed to be a QB bootleg. I think that one was on Maynard.

mvargus;841971729 said:

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I do konw that the QB is supposed to notice when/if the RB doesn't take the ball and pull it back, so Maynard should have kept the ball when Bigelow didn't reach for it.

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Actually, I don't think this is correct. In a "normal" (non-option) offense, a handoff vs. fake handoff is determined prior to the snap. Neither the QB nor the RB exercises any discretion once the ball is snapped.

If Maynard thought presnap that the play was a handoff, he is supposed to put the ball in BB's gut, let go of it, then carry out his fake bootleg without looking back (looking back ruins the fake). It's not really his job to "notice" if the RB thinks it is a fake and look back for a fumble.

By all accounts, it sounds like ZM just had the play wrong and if so the fumble is on him. Which is puzzling because often the run play and the play action pass off the run play have totally different names, e.g. "power" (a handoff) or "waggle" (a fake handoff off the power run action). It's hard to confuse the two play names if we use that type of play nomenclature. Of course, easy for me to say sitting in Row 34 with a Top Dog.

I think you have it right. His best game despite poor ol play. He was very quick in getting his passes off and was very accurate - after a poor start. I thought that both fumbles were his fault, but he also overcame lots of ol penalties (the Rigsbees were their usual penalty-prone selves).

sycasey;841971781 said:

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I really hope this represents genuine improvement for Maynard, but as I noted in another thread, I have seen this kind of tease before. I hope he has improved, but don't yet believe it.

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You #FakeFan. Of course he's improving, you can't deny the slow and bumpy but overall upward trajectory over the past two years. At this rate he should be a Pac-12 caliber QB by 2015!

:bluecarrot:

Just kidding. Hats off to Maynard... maybe he has a pro career in him after all.

calumnus;841971436 said:

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Where can you find game by game passing ratings?

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I was just using espn ...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/25/california-golden-bears

Click on year, player and game log for individual game stats

MisterNoodle;841971844 said:

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Actually, I don't think this is correct. In a "normal" (non-option) offense, a handoff vs. fake handoff is determined prior to the snap. Neither the QB nor the RB exercises any discretion once the ball is snapped.

If Maynard thought presnap that the play was a handoff, he is supposed to put the ball in BB's gut, let go of it, then carry out his fake bootleg without looking back (looking back ruins the fake). It's not really his job to "notice" if the RB thinks it is a fake and look back for a fumble.

By all accounts, it sounds like ZM just had the play wrong and if so the fumble is on him. Which is puzzling because often the run play and the play action pass off the run play have totally different names, e.g. "power" (a handoff) or "waggle" (a fake handoff off the power run action). It's hard to confuse the two play names if we use that type of play nomenclature. Of course, easy for me to say sitting in Row 34 with a Top Dog.

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I'm guessing the handoff was not predetermined but a designed zone read play, i.e. reading the defense and making the decision on the fly. Maynard could have changed his mind at the last second while Bigelow thought he was going to keep it.

BerlinerBaer;841972039 said:

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I'm guessing the handoff was not predetermined but a designed zone read play, i.e. reading the defense and making the decision on the fly. Maynard could have changed his mind at the last second while Bigelow thought he was going to keep it.

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If the play had been zone read or any other option play, you're right that some handoffs/fakes are not determined pre-snap. That is why I qualified by prior post by the words "non-option."

The play in question, however, was not an option play, it was a bootleg from under center. The "handoff" was supposed to be a fake and it was determined pre-snap.

OskiMD;841971974 said:

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You #FakeFan. Of course he's improving, you can't deny the slow and bumpy but overall upward trajectory over the past two years. At this rate he should be a Pac-12 caliber QB by 2015!

:bluecarrot:

Just kidding. Hats off to Maynard... maybe he has a pro career in him after all.

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Yup, solid game from Maynard. Recovered from the early INT early and made throws when we needed them. Playcalling was smart - quick, easy reads for Zach and he executed. But let's not get carried away, ZM will not be playing at the next level. But last night, he finally looked like a legit Pac12 QB.

CalBearz02;841972193 said:

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Hate to break it to folks, but Cal loses this game if UCLA doesn't fart all over the field. UCLA gave us this game. And this has nothing to do with the fact that the win hurt the program.

I honestly don't know if UCLA is either not that good or simply were outcoached (schematically on both sides of the ball), but I did not see the impressive performance others say they saw yesterday.

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Oh come on now. True, UCLA made a lot of mistakes to make Cal's job easier, but the score was 43-17. It takes a lot to chalk that margin up to luck or the other team giving it away -- Cal played a very good game as well. Credit where credit is due; the team was up for this game and it showed.

CalBearz02;841972193 said:

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Hate to break it to folks, but Cal loses this game if UCLA doesn't fart all over the field. UCLA gave us this game. And this has nothing to do with the fact that the win hurt the program.

I honestly don't know if UCLA is either not that good or simply were outcoached (schematically on both sides of the ball), but I did not see the impressive performance others say they saw yesterday.

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Cal played solid. I don't think UCLA's mistakes influenced the ultimate outcome of the game that much.