To come out of your division, do you have to have the best record within your division or overall in the conference? We are 2-2 in conference, but 1-0 in the North.

I think its based on conference record (ie 2-2)

blungld;841977067 said:

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To come out of your division, do you have to have the best record within your division or overall in the conference? We are 2-2 in conference, but 1-0 in the North.

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Per Wikipedia, it's all conf games.

Not loosing any sleep over it. Don't know if that is good or bad.

GOOD. Not much is worth more than my sleep.

I actually looked that question up right after the UCLA game. It would have been more exciting if the primary decider were in-division records, especially since teams play all 5 of their division opponents vs only 2/3 of their cross-divisional foes, which makes for unfair advantages for those with easier schedules.

Exactly. I don't like the set up. Doesn't make sense. If you are going to have divisions--then the winner of the division should be the winner of the division not the conference...or everyone plays everyone and you guy by conference results. This is an uneven and illogical set up.

blungld;841977352 said:

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Exactly. I don't like the set up. Doesn't make sense. If you are going to have divisions--then the winner of the division should be the winner of the division not the conference...or everyone plays everyone and you guy by conference results. This is an uneven and illogical set up.

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The alternative is having 4/9 of the conference schedule become glorified OOC games.

QuakeFan;841977363 said:

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The alternative is having 4/9 of the conference schedule become glorified OOC games.

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So award points -
4 points for a division win, 2 for OOD conference win, 1 for OOC win.

Or better, dump the new members, go back to Pacific 8, 7 conference games 5 gimmie games and everyone has a winning season, a bowl game, and higher ranking than those phony SEC schedule teams.

blungld;841977352 said:

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Exactly. I don't like the set up. Doesn't make sense. If you are going to have divisions--then the winner of the division should be the winner of the division not the conference...or everyone plays everyone and you guy by conference results. This is an uneven and illogical set up.

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Well this was our double screw for being put in the North and our insisting and "getting" to play USC and UCLA every year.

The loss to SC we could deal with if we beat our North rivals, but if we were seriously going to challenge for the division we should have beat ASU at home.

I get that, but every game always counts in college football. For determining division winner though they SHOULD be effectively out of conference with unbalanced schedules.

blungld;841977352 said:

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Exactly. I don't like the set up. Doesn't make sense. If you are going to have divisions--then the winner of the division should be the winner of the division not the conference...or everyone plays everyone and you guy by conference results. This is an uneven and illogical set up.

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Prevents teams with bad conference record (but best division record) to get into the conference championship game.
This is consistent with all American sports league: regular season division titles in NFL/MLB/NBA are teams with the best league records. Division record only serves as tie-breaker.