510Bear;841978757 said:
I'll say it too. That's pretty sh*tty and I can't believe anyone defends it as something that makes the rivalry great. I'm all for smack talk that does nothing but hurt the other guy's pride, but dumping crap on opposing fans? Throwing frozen oranges at the band, for God's sake? Someone could get hurt that way, but I guess if you're an asshole, it's hilarious as long as it doesn't happen to you.
I also don't get all this squawking about police at games. What, you're all suddenly channeling late 80's NWA now? I guess having giant unchecked melees on the field is better than having security stop you from "enjoying the rivalry"....
Clearly you do not recall the cops at those games...
1. There were enough to keep the sides separate in 1997, but not enough to make it feel like we were living in a police state. Unfortunately they decided to do their jobs AFTER they let Furd assault Cal fans, or the entire thing would have been avoided. (now the cops let fans have fun but prevent them from approaching the student sections to avoid baiting - all without shoulder to shoulder police in RIOT GEAR).
2. In 1999 they purposefully tried to intimidate Cal fans with numbers that were enough to LITERALLY stand shoulder to shoulder in FULL riot gear with shield etc,
WITH BATONS OUT in front of the ENTIRE Cal section (not just Student Section). and exactly ZERO in front of the Furd sections that instigated the 1997 melee.
They were excessive in numbers and ridiculously aggressive, starting with drawing weapons long before the game was over (marching into the stadium at the start of the 4th quarter), then marching through the stands to disperse passive crowds of normal fans (ie not students, the ENTIRE Cal section) is something I have NEVER seen at any other American sporting event...EVER. If you can name a single American sporting event that has had that kind of police presence of tactics, I would LOVE to hear about it.
So, yeah, in that case, I had ZERO respect for them. It is completely ridiculous for you to claim that surrounding one group of fans as a show of force (including Alumni sections), but not any other group of fans, including Furds students, then rolling through Cal sections while Furd sections are left full does anything but hurt the enjoyment of the rivalry.
Claiming it does not hurt the rivalry to do that is flat out stupid.