There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

?? You ok, bro?

There's more than 20 or 30 of us.

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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You're completely off base. As best I can tell, about 95% of all posters want Tedford fired at the end of this season or earlier. You're apparently one of the 5% (an increasingly silent 5% I might add) who dreams of a resurgence next year if Tedford stays. Of course, you're the same dreamers who in 2007 said 2008 was going to be a Rose Bowl year, and in 2008 said we would win the Pac in 2009, and in 2009 said 2010 would be a magical year, and in 2010 predicted great things for 2011, and in 2011 predicted a Rose Bowl in 2012. Get the picture? Nothing good will come from extending Tedford's tenure. He should and will be fired in the coming weeks.

bearblast;841997717 said:

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! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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Yes it's not from the university but actually donors pay for tedford's salary. Donors who can stop giving money if they feel like it. On top of that season ticket holder revenue (from both ticket face value and from seat donations) fund not just the football program but other athletic programs. If big donors stop paying, then the program is in trouble financially. And if they pony up, Tedford is gone. The supposed Nike money is actually very small compared to the Cal athletic budget, and most of it is actually in the form of things like jerseys and shoes for our teams, which at retail value adds up to a large sum, but in terms of cost to Nike, isn't even that much considering where/how they make the products.

I don't believe that JT needed to win X number of games this year to get another year, but just had to do something to give fans hope that things are improving to a level where a middling bowl every few years isn't a 'successful' season. I believe the sentiment right now of most fans is that things will improve next year, but JT has some coaching flaws that will prevent the team from producing a much than average result w/o across the board premium talent, where as other coaches would be able to produce more from less. I think I come off as completely anti-Tedford sometimes, and that's not the full story... I'm a bit sad that it isn't working out, and wouldn't jump ship next year if he's back, but think the repeated issues are just adding up and the writing is on the wall for a huge hit in ticket sales... and it will be larger than the size of his contract.

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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You're oversampling sunshine pumpers.....Mike Riley's conference record over the last 5 years is overwhelmingly better then JT's....

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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U mad?

HaasBear04;841997742 said:

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U mad?

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Aren't we all?

How much money is nike kicking in for the next coach? Hell, with uncle phil backing us why not make a run at saban?

ColoradoBear1;841997737 said:

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Yes it's not from the university but actually donors pay for tedford's salary. Donors who can stop giving money if they feel like it. On top of that season ticket holder receive (from both ticket face value and from seat donations) fund not just the football program but other athletic programs. If big donors stop paying, then the program is in trouble financially. And if they pony up, Tedford is gone. The supposed Nike money is actually very small compared to the Cal athletic budget, and most of it is actually in the form of things like jerseys and shoes for our teams, which at retail value adds up to a large sum, but in terms of cost to Nike, isn't even that much considering where/how they make the products.

I don't believe that JT needed to win X number of games this year to get another year, but just had to do something to give fans hope that things are improving to a level where a middling bowl every few years isn't a 'successful' season.

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So if Nike is a donor, logically they'll want Tedford to stay and lose at Cal, thus giving them an advantage.

bearblast;841997717 said:

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there might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time qb waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if mike riley can do it so can coach tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be bear fans who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the universities coffers

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troll alert

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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I suppose Nike will purchase all of the unsold tickets as well. And whose brilliant rule is it that, in order to be a "BEAR FAN", we have to support the coaches and status quo? Most of us who want Tedford gone are still passionate about the players and will root for them as long as they continue to fight for our team. The coaches, on the other hand, are paid employees and can come and go. I don't root for former coaches like Kiesau, Alamar, Tosh, and Holmoe in the same way I still root for Rodgers, Lynch, DJax, etc. Completely different. If the loyalty from and for the coaches are independent of the salary, maybe Tedford will show some loyalty, take a signficant paycut and allow the savings to be used to hire some great assistant coaches.

HAve you seen a game?

We do not look like OSU.

ManBear;841997725 said:

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There's more than 20 or 30 of us.

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Boy he's started it with that number. Here goes.

Davidson;841997758 said:

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HAve you seen a game?

We do not look like OSU.

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That's not fair. OSU has so many recruiting advantages over Cal that we can't expect Cal coaches to compete with the likes of OSU and Utah.

Cal Panda Bear;841997750 said:

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troll alert

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:axe

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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Whatever you're smoking, how about sharing?

:p

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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FYI

bearblast;841997717 said:

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Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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This statement does not refute the fact JT is the 2nd or 3rd HIGHEST paid HC in P12. It doesn't matter where the money comes from, he is still paid $2.3M/year since 2007 [or whenever his contract was extended]!

Btw, JT is also the highest paid CA state employee.

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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Most fans want Tedford back?

I want whatever drug you are taking, it's definitely a great way to have a wild trip.

I've followed Cal football since I was a child. My father was an alum and took me to games back before I understood just how passionate people get about games. He still goes to every home game. (I now live too far away to attend home games regularly.)

Now my father and I talk after just about every game. I've been negative about Tedford for years, but my father was always taking the stance that we had to give Tedford another year.

This year my father has finally agreed with me that Tedford needs to go. He also tells me that the people who he sits near during games are all ready to see Tedford leave the program.

Bearblast, the signs that Tedford has almost no remainig support from the allumni and donors are legion. The fans want to see a new coach.

And should your insanity somehow take hold of the administration and they keep Tedford for another season, not only will they see attendance drop and ESP sales go down, but they are unlikely to see the team manage better than 6-6. Sure Cal returns many good players, but.

1) they will have a new starting QB, with the exception of USC and UW the Pac-12 teams Cal will face will have returning QBs, returning your QB is usually good for several wins, and a first year QB tends to generate 1-2 losses that should have been wins

2) The playcalling is unlikely to improve, which means that coaches like Kiffin and Sark who have Tedford's number will once again be able to shut down the Cal offense despite all the returning "stars".

3) Cal will not have a good recruiting year. Tedford being on the hot seat is not exactly a great secret at this point. High school seniors looking for a team tend to avoid serious talks with a coach who is unlikely to be there in a year. They don't want to sign up and then find that its a whole new coach and system. You can already see this effect in the quality of the current verbals. They are a huge step down from the players we all talked about during 2011.

Why don't you give up trying to defend Tedford and do something productive?

Phantomfan;841997779 said:

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FYI

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wait, OSU had more wins in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010? they didn't also beat us all those years did they? (they did).

ugh I think trolled again is an appropriate statement for this thread. the way people talk about oregon state's turnaround this year isn't anywhere near to a reasonable comparison to cal's 2012, given that they've been better 4 of the previous 5 years.

Cal_Fan2;841997740 said:

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You're oversampling sunshine pumpers.....Mike Riley's conference record over the last 5 years is overwhelmingly better then JT's....

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No.

Davidson;841997758 said:

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HAve you seen a game?

We do not look like OSU.

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We look better this year than OSU did last year. Last year's OSU team would have been 1-8 at this point with our schedule.


One more thing. How come every time someone makes a good point about Cal's coach they get called a troll? It makes me suspicious of who in fact the people on this forum are.

BobbyGBear;841997815 said:

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No.


We look better this year than OSU did last year. Last year's OSU team would have been 1-8 at this point with our schedule.

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Maybe because Riley had enough intelligence to play his younger players to prepare them for this year? Wasn't that obvious last year from watching OSU play? Do you think we would be this upset if Tedford were to at least give our team a better chance of succeeding next year by giving some meaningful experience to our younger players? If Tedford made it clear when it was obvious that we were not going to set the world on fire this season that he will focus on giving game experience to the younger players, I would at least have more reason to hope for a better result next year. As it stands now, I just don't see what will change next year with Tedford at the helm.

Why do smart Cal fans feed these garbage threads? This guy is obviously a relative of Tedford

Note this isn't in response to the trollish OP - this is to any reasonably intelligent readers who might be swindled into confusing our failure of a season to anything that happened at OSU. There can't be any comparison to Riley's OSU team last year. This is ridiculous. We have a senior QB (who has gotten 99% of our snaps to date), 2 senior RBs (2/3 of our rushing yards so far), a 3rd year all american receiver in KA (1/2 our WR yardage), and 3 senior starting OL (Schwenke, MSG, Rigsbee). This should have been a peak year for us, but instead it's a trough. If we only win 3 games this year, and Tedford is back next year I think it would be reasonable to assume that we will be even worse since we will be breaking in a new QB, relatively green RBs and WRs and we will have much less experience on our line.

mvargus;841997796 said:

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Most fans want Tedford back?

I want whatever drug you are taking, it's definitely a great way to have a wild trip.

I've followed Cal football since I was a child. My father was an alum and took me to games back before I understood just how passionate people get about games. He still goes to every home game. (I now live too far away to attend home games regularly.)

Now my father and I talk after just about every game. I've been negative about Tedford for years, but my father was always taking the stance that we had to give Tedford another year.

This year my father has finally agreed with me that Tedford needs to go. He also tells me that the people who he sits near during games are all ready to see Tedford leave the program.

Bearblast, the signs that Tedford has almost no remainig support from the allumni and donors are legion. The fans want to see a new coach.

And should your insanity somehow take hold of the administration and they keep Tedford for another season, not only will they see attendance drop and ESP sales go down, but they are unlikely to see the team manage better than 6-6. Sure Cal returns many good players, but.

1) they will have a new starting QB, with the exception of USC and UW the Pac-12 teams Cal will face will have returning QBs, returning your QB is usually good for several wins, and a first year QB tends to generate 1-2 losses that should have been wins

2) The playcalling is unlikely to improve, which means that coaches like Kiffin and Sark who have Tedford's number will once again be able to shut down the Cal offense despite all the returning "stars".

3) Cal will not have a good recruiting year. Tedford being on the hot seat is not exactly a great secret at this point. High school seniors looking for a team tend to avoid serious talks with a coach who is unlikely to be there in a year. They don't want to sign up and then find that its a whole new coach and system. You can already see this effect in the quality of the current verbals. They are a huge step down from the players we all talked about during 2011.

Why don't you give up trying to defend Tedford and do something productive?

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Actually, UW's Price is a junior this year so he'll be returning.

StanBall;841997888 said:

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I'm impressed by how Riley handled being so high up the hot seat list to start the year. He won 7 in a row and gave OSU their best start in over a hundred years.

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Maybe that is Tedford's story next year with Kline at QB, 3 healthy TE's, healthy SUPER STAR Linebackers, plus Bigelow, Lasco, Treggs, Harper, Powe, Harris, Tagaloa, Cochran, Moore, Okafor and the rest .... no reason it can't be Cal's story in 2013

bearblast;841997890 said:

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Maybe that is Tedford's story next year with Kline at QB, 3 healthy TE's, healthy SUPER STAR Linebackers, plus Bigelow, Lasco, Treggs, Harper, Powe, Harris, Tagaloa, Cochran, Moore, Okafor and the rest .... no reason it can't be Cal's story in 2013

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Probably not.

Phantomfan;841997779 said:

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FYI

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hey phantom....what website are you going to to make those cool graphs you've put up recently???

bearblast;841997717 said:

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There might be only 20 or 30 posters that want coach Tedford gone, most fans see the amount injuries this year, and a big time QB waiting in the wings as signs for a big year next season, if Mike Riley can do it so can coach Tedford . All 30 of you who want coach fired can go pick a new team to root for. We choose to be BEAR FANS who support our players and our coaches! Stop with the overpaid garbage. Hardly anything comes from the Universities coffers

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Stand by your man, Mrs. Tedford.

nope...his coaching has already shown us what to expect. He would just use youth and inexperience as an excuse next year when his terrible coaching results in 3-5 wins.

Phantomfan;841997779 said:

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FYI

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Nice...but...why is Cal's line in *red?* :p

SRBear;841997949 said:

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nope...his coaching has already shown us what to expect. He would just use youth and inexperience as an excuse next year when his terrible coaching results in 3-5 wins.

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Huh? His terrible coaching produced 8.3 wins during his first 8 seasons. Only 2010 (5-7) and 2012 (3-7 so far) are strong aberrations from a highly successful run by Coach Tedford. Hope he keeps it going. (back in the right direction I mean)

ya...He also produced the worst GSR in the league and is now very boring.

bearblast;841997979 said:

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Huh? His terrible coaching produced 8.3 wins during his first 8 seasons. Only 2010 (5-7) and 2012 (3-7 so far) are strong aberrations from a highly successful run by Coach Tedford. Hope he keeps it going. (back in the right direction I mean)

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Ok I get it. Cute shtick. You're just adorable, aren't you?