Does a new coach retain any assistants?

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diva1
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Thinking the LB coach stays,good coach and helps recruiting transition. Does Gould survive another coaching change? Health issues maybe not. Pendergast wants to go back to NFL does he get a pro gig?

Any thoughts?
touchdownbears43
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Maybe Gould and Thompson....everyone else OUTTA HERE
freshfunk
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Definitely Gould and Thompson are keepers.

I feel like our receivers are looking good and could consider Chandler as well.
ruffian81
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I could see trying to keep Chandler, but most of the offensive coaches would seem to be on the chopping block. A new HC would no doubt have his own system and want his own people. We'd probably see whole new regime, even though I think there are good people in the system doing many things we don't see.
GoldenBear76
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I believe the common protocol is to have the new head coach interview each assistant and make individual decisions after that. Sometimes they are retained, but most often they leave with the head coach.
sbmhsu
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freshfunk;842010904 said:

Definitely Gould and Thompson are keepers.

I feel like our receivers are looking good and could consider Chandler as well.


I would take a serious look at chandler too it's been a while since freshman wr were this good
mbBear
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maybe on Thompson, yes on Gould. But it could be a clean sweep-the new coach could/should have that option....
71Bear
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NO!!!!!!

All of the assistants should be dumped. Immediately!!!!

A fresh start from top to bottom is needed. Heck, I would rid the program of all the support staff as well, especially those associated with the academic performance of the players.
ColoradoBear
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Obviously a new coach chooses a staff, but I'm not sure how much say a coach has in exactly how much assistants get paid - ie money still is limited. So there might be an increased incentive for him to keep Gould and Thompson if the money saved from not buying them out can go to additional pay to the other assistants.

Gould's contract appears to run through April 2014 (actually it's worded so that he gets paid for one year beyond the current year if terminated, with the year starting ending in april) and Kenwick's through February 2015. Clancy also has one through Spring 2014, but I'm not so sure a new HC would consider keeping him as much as Gould and Thompson who are definitely are better on the recruiting end and their position groups have always done well.

But we shouldn't keep them out of a sense of obligation to help them out by keeping them. They would easily get similar jobs elsewhere if they wanted because they are two well respected coached with excellent track records. Sometimes it's good to make a clean break to get rid of the old way of doing things, but at the same time, having a couple of coaches familiar with Cal the school and how things work would be helpful.

So that's just a long bunch of BS I wrote to say it's at the discretion of a new coach, which we all know anyway.
clunkyregistration
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Absolutely 71 - fresh start EVERYWHERE! Including the uniforms
golden sloth
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i just hope cal focuses their financial resources on an Oline coach.

My preference for the offensive assistant splits of total money
Coordinator/QB - 45%
Oline - 25%
Running Back - 15%
Wide Reciever - 15%

Does anyone know any Oline coaches that can both recruit and teach?
southseasbear
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sbmhsu;842010963 said:

I would take a serious look at chandler too it's been a while since freshman wr were this good


Of all the assistants, Chandler should be retained. It's been a while since any of our wide receivers were this good. That unit was the brightest and most consistent part of this horrible 2012 team.
docfrom74
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RB play and management over the past couple of years kind of indicate that Gould should leave also. Lynch, Best et al. can make any RB coach look like a world beater.
Geotnabear
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Everybody goes!

Yes, even Ron Gould....


Clean the house completely!
mechaniCAL
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I would be upset if Gould wasn't retained... Side note I hope the new coach will hire Follet as an assistant
GoldenBear76
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At the very least lose those ghastly white helmets - yuk!
RonO
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touchdownbears43;842010903 said:

Maybe Gould and Thompson....everyone else OUTTA HERE


They will all be dropped, however the new coach may pick up one. I personally like Thompson a lot. A few months ago, in a private conversation, he gave me all he could - a slight head nod in response to a tough question/statement.
HaasBear04
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71Bear;842010969 said:

NO!!!!!!

All of the assistants should be dumped. Immediately!!!!

A fresh start from top to bottom is needed. Heck, I would rid the program of all the support staff as well, especially those associated with the academic performance of the players.


Yeah agreed. Don't want any residual tedford influence. Cauterize the wound,
Strykur
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Ron Gould survived the Holmoe dismissal, he will certainly survive this one, all he has to do is show the new guy in charge NFL highlights of Marshawn and Shane.
southseasbear
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mechaniCAL;842011033 said:

I would be upset if Gould wasn't retained... Side note I hope the new coach will hire Follet as an assistant


Love the guy's attitude and work ethic, but Follet needs to get experience as a grad assistant and/or high school coach before he's qualified to be an assistant at a major BCS conference.

GoldenBear76;842011042 said:

At the very least lose those ghastly white helmets - yuk!


Yes, along with those gaudy stripes!
Strykur
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southseasbear;842011084 said:

Love the guy's attitude and work ethic, but Follet needs to get experience as a grad assistant and/or high school coach before he's qualified to be an assistant at a major BCS conference.


I am sure Follett could get his start as a grad assistant under the new regime. And yes, the white helmets are pure death and the bane of our great institution, OFF WITH THEM!!!1
SoCalBear323
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Will Quinneth be retained?
calbearo
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There are advantages and disadvantages to how much turnover goes with a head coaching change. Under these circumstances, I would not be surprised to see one assistant retained. A lot will depend on who the new coach is. If it is a guy who has spent a lot of time in the NFL, you may not want to get rid of so many staff familiar with running an NCAA football program. If you have somebody who is currently running a FBS team, you figure they know all of the peice they need and know people who they would like to bring along.

You also have to consider which of the assistants would want to stay on with a new coach. Gould had wanted to stay because his wife as an administrator in the AD. That probably doesn't change, but it isn't a guarantee he stays. Some of these guys may have opportunities to go somewhere else that they would prefer. Some may not like the new guy.
StillABear
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One can always easily make a case for keeping an assistant coach---Thompson, maybe Chandler and Ambrose, who I understand the players like and respect a lot. Gould less so than in prior years. But the new coach has to have complete freedom to clean house top to bottom if that is what he chooses and worrying about whether he retains one or some of current staff is a total waste of time. We need a completely fresh approach and a team of coaches that completely buy-in to the new HC.
going4roses
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everyone goes good chance at 3- 9 again ... and prob more transfers than team can handle the talent is here depth will be a factor... JT didnt get it done o line didnt get it done special teams coach gone... everyone else needs serious consideration

last years off season was a mess dont makes things worse when its not needed .. whole new staff is going to lose somebody and enough good somebodies and we will be looking up at the whole pac 12 for years to come until the new staff can recruit their kids ...

if you think there is no talent here scrap whole crew if not take a good look at the asst coaches




one more thing chandler Earned his job !!!!!!!( dont know how anyone can think other wise ) dont throw the baby out with bath water


alot of factors involved ... money , new HC , position evaluations, and recruiting.... say for instance ambrose goes the two dbs from Ga may de-commit i dont know you but i dont think this class can take much of a hit ... no smart mouth talk about them not being 5- 4 stars ( tell that to mike riley )


Depth a big factor is there time for a whole new staff to get their guys ?

how long are you wiling to wait and ???
Mr. Triangle
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Usually the new coach retains one assistant coach to help with the transition. Everybody else hits the skids.
going4roses
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Mr. Triangle;842011242 said:

Usually the new coach retains one assistant coach to help with the transition. Everybody else hits the skids.



usual = NOT CAL football
ruffian81
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Right, ZF! I don't know if he can coach at all, but I'd bet he'd be a good recruiter, and might start as an assistant something. Gould seems like a good coach, but we've had trouble with our backs fumbling, even though I know he drills them on ball control relentlessly.
Geotnabear
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LOL at thinking Follett should just "start as an assistant" when he has absolutely no coaching experience.

If Follett REALLY wants to coach, he better pay his due, working like a dog as a grad assistant for 2-3 years first and show that he has what it takes.
GoCal80
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The Oregon running backs coach has been there through good times and bad, for 30 years!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/03/sports/ncaafootball/gary-campbell-keeps-coaching-oregons-running-backs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
upsetof86
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We kept Gould after Holmoe and now we keep him again IF we change regimes...again? And we like some of the other assistants except Howard, Ambrose, and Arroyo despite being a good play caller, JM whom we cheered back, CP and JT. Wow sounds like this coach hiring thing is a piece of cake...
Calntheplay
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Chandler is the ONLY one I'd like to see retained-- the guy just got it done this year with our WRs. Our bocking, catching, route running has been better than we've ever seen.

As far as Gould, the fiasco with our RB this year was mind boggling. The only consistent thing about our RB's was Stevens, and they didn't even use him very much.

Although Kenwick is a good recruiter, our inside LBer play has been average to below average since Bishop left.
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