If Petersen has ever wondered what it would be like to Head coach in a powerhouse conference--Than I think we'll get him. Cal is the only place that makes complete sense, and his stock couldn't be higher. So if he's going to make a move, I think it's going to be now.

All of the other suitors that have pursued Petersen have been playing the coaching musical chairs for several years now, while Cal kept around it's dead weight HC for many more years than it should have.

From a coaching perspective, its comforting to know that you'll be taking over a 'losing program' with below average expectations, horrible graduation rates and a tremendously talented group of kids. I'm sure job security for Petersen probably means something to him. The bar is not set at the level of the other colleges that are pursuing him, or have pursued him in the past.

Cal offers-

1. Job security
2. Low expectations
3. High pay
4. Close to his family
5. upgraded facilities and stadium
6. Hot bed recruiting front that he'll be able to win
7. Inheriting an amazingly young, talented group of kids
8. An opportunity to goto a NC.
9. An AD department that has his back if he needs something
10. Horrible graduation rates (the bar is set low)
11. Great place to live and raise a family (surrounding Berkeley)

That is a tremendous value proposition that would win over most coaches. Obviously, the only thing Cal can't offer is a 6mil. contract, which Petersen has proved money is not the main factor in his decision.

If Petersen doesn't jump on this, IMHO it would be coaching suicide. 2 bad years of recruiting or bad QB play in Boise, will put him in the middle of his conference (which could happen with the quality of coaching increasing in the smaller divisions). The big time programs will eventually stop calling.


No way he takes the Oregon job. For the simple fact, Oregon would be unwilling to get rid of it's high octane offense. Oregon's OC will end up HC for another college team if Petersen comes in. I just don't see that happening.

So my guess is, Sandy offers Petersen 3 mil./year, over 4 years, with some incentives.

My personal preference in coaches-

Call me crazy, Petersen would not be my first choice. It would seem that every coach that has come out of that place has flopped big time, and it scares the bajezus outta me. Petersen could be different, but still, there is a risk.

I'd much rather go after a 3 year contract with Greg Roman. I think he'd be be spectacular, but I also think he'll get offers to be a HC in the NFL after this year. So the chances of this happening are slim IMO.

Petersen would be my 2nd choice if he agrees NOT to bring Gregory with him or any BBDB defense in general.

Hue would be my 3rd choice ONLY if he can bring an all-star staff with him.

SJSU coach would be my 4th choice

I hate your third and fourth choices but I agree that that the bullet points above are part of the key value props that Sandy will put in place.

You're right. Cal has an almost unique combination of low expectations, low pressure, great facilities, great location, and opportunity to compete on the biggest stage. Unfortunately, UCLA also offers these things, and he already turned them down. I guess our only advantage is he's from Norcal.

socaltownie;842016889 said:

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I hate your third and fourth choices but I agree that that the bullet points above are part of the key value props that Sandy will put in place.

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+1 Also, many on this board (not pointing to the OP) have expressed interest in having To$h come back. That I'd never abide but if CP wanted to bring Gregory back, I'd have zero problem with that.

HaasBear04;842016899 said:

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I guess our only advantage is he's from Norcal.

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We have much better facilities than fUCLA.

NYCGOBEARS;842016901 said:

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+1 Also, many on this board (not pointing to the OP) have expressed interest in having To$h come back. That I'd never abide but if CP wanted to bring Gregory back, I'd have zero problem with that.

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Gregory can work _IF_ you have an offense capable of putting up points AND sustaining long drives so the bending defense has a chance to catch its breath and make the minor adjusments required in that scheme to ensure you don't break.

What KILLED Gregory was that in the last half of the JT era we were incapable of going on those 12 play, 7 minutes off the clock TD drives. I think CP could do that.

HaasBear04;842016899 said:

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You're right. Cal has an almost unique combination of low expectations, low pressure, great facilities, great location, and opportunity to compete on the biggest stage. Unfortunately, UCLA also offers these things, and he already turned them down. I guess our only advantage is he's from Norcal.

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How many Head coaches has UCLA been through during Tedfords tenure?

Another reason why Petersen would be crazy to go to Oregon (at this point) is because the Duck fanbase would expect him to immediately go 11-1 or better over the next few years.

The bar right now is obscenely high over at Oregon.

Calntheplay;842016877 said:

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Call me crazy,

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Crazy, Crazy, Crazy, not because you would prefer someone else, that may make sense. Crazy for thinking he is really interested in Cal. Bosie State and Cal could not be more different and I doubt Cal looks that attractive coming from a place where he worked so well.

Petersen would simply have to be BORED at Boise State and be looking for a new challenge somewhere else in another conference.

Cal offers that and I hope he accepts the challenge.

The timing for Cal getting Petersen couldn't be much better imho due to the rapidly changing college landscape. Boise, going to the Big East, is not a good prospect. They tried to revive efforts with SDS and BYU to rejoin the MTN West recently. If you are not in a top BCS conference with the lucrative TV contract, you are relegated to the equivalent of basketball's mid-major level.

Boise is at a cross-roads and, frankly, Petersen's star quality is actually diminished from the past few years, so he has to make a near term decision I believe if he wants to play with the big boys.

We're in a whole new world and doubt new coach would get as much leeway as JT did the last 5 years.

Expectations are going to be much higher, especially at the pay rate you mentioned.

With a new QB and fewer injuries, this team is at least a 6 win team on talent alone. If new coach does that or worse ill be pretty disappointed. At 7 wins ill be unimpressed. I'm hoping for 8 wins or better in year 1.

Going forward the coach must have us in the top of the middle or bottom of the top tier if the salaries are there. Otherwise cut him after 3 or 4 years.

I don't see this place as being any more stable than other schools in the conference. That was a mistake made with JT and don't see a putting ourselves back in this situation. I also would expect the next coach to use this place as a stepping stone instead of trying to become a lifer.

StillABear;842016916 said:

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The timing for Cal getting Petersen couldn't be much better imho due to the rapidly changing college landscape. Boise, going to the Big East, is not a good prospect. They tried to revive efforts with SDS and BYU to rejoin the MTN West recently. If you are not in a top BCS conference with the lucrative TV contract, you are relegated to the equivalent of basketball's mid-major level.

Boise is at a cross-roads and, frankly, Petersen's star quality is actually diminished from the past few years, so he has to make a near term decision I believe if he wants to play with the big boys.

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This^^^ He has eaten all the other fish in his pond. Time to move on.

HaasBear04;842016899 said:

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You're right. Cal has an almost unique combination of low expectations, low pressure, great facilities, great location, and opportunity to compete on the biggest stage. Unfortunately, UCLA also offers these things, and he already turned them down. I guess our only advantage is he's from Norcal.

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He also turned down Stanford -too southern norcal

You're preaching to the choir here, that's for sure. For many of the reasons stated, I feel the same. Actually, I think I was the first here to say that we might appeal to CP in ways that can make us an attractive option for him...

I'd like to add another though... As I just read another poster state, CP is probably only successful because of the conference / competition. As a professional in any field, one wants to be recognized as the best, not to have an asterisk mark of sorts associated with accomplishments. There would not be any sneaking into BCS games via the Pac-12 conference.

Man, it's 6th grade, you're at the dance, maybe not feeling all that confident, but go ask that hot girl damn it! And act like you are going to make her day...

StillABear;842016916 said:

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The timing for Cal getting Petersen couldn't be much better imho due to the rapidly changing college landscape. Boise, going to the Big East, is not a good prospect. They tried to revive efforts with SDS and BYU to rejoin the MTN West recently. If you are not in a top BCS conference with the lucrative TV contract, you are relegated to the equivalent of basketball's mid-major level.

Boise is at a cross-roads and, frankly, Petersen's star quality is actually diminished from the past few years, so he has to make a near term decision I believe if he wants to play with the big boys.

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esp. with Maryland and Rutgers jumping ship to the Big 10...

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He also turned down Stanford -too southern norcal

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Maybe he doesn't like Stanfurd? He's got 2 degrees through the UC system, including a Masters in Education from UC Davis. The guy is a bonafide badas$$, dedicated to academic aspect of the scholar/athlete experience. It's a perfect fit. Is it possible to give him an honorary doctorate if he takes us to the rose bowl?

bearsandgiants;842016942 said:

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Maybe he doesn't like Stanfurd? He's got 2 degrees through the UC system, including a Masters in Education from UC Davis. The guy is a bonafide badas$$, dedicated to academic aspect of the scholar/athlete experience. It's a perfect fit. Is it possible to give him an honorary doctorate if he takes us to the rose bowl?

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Doctorate? He'd get a f$ckin nobel prize

bearsandgiants;842016942 said:

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Maybe he doesn't like Stanfurd? He's got 2 degrees through the UC system, including a Masters in Education from UC Davis. The guy is a bonafide badas$$, dedicated to academic aspect of the scholar/athlete experience. It's a perfect fit. Is it possible to give him an honorary doctorate if he takes us to the rose bowl?

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A dislike for Furd would be a bonus. Also, perhaps he doesn't want to play in front of a lukewarm (at best) fan base.

GB54;842016962 said:

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Doctorate? He'd get a f$ckin nobel prize

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Or at least one of their parking spaces.

6164bear;842016970 said:

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Or at least one of their parking spaces.

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Now that would go over well with the faculty -

6164bear;842016970 said:

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Or at least one of their parking spaces.

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That parking placard is worth more than the award!

Quick, someone call up LBNL and ask how long it will be before they create the next element.

Then ask if there's a way to put it in the pipeline to name it Petersenium.

We just might get this to work... :rollinglaugh:

After all the money we will have to spend (or have spent already) to buy out Tedford, hire Peterson and his new staff, construct the SAHPC, and remodel Memorial, I do not have low expectations. And neither should any of you.

I would expect Peterson to get us in a BCS bowl very quickly (3 years or so). We have the talent and facilities. But our team lacks discipline, drive, innovation, and execution. I don't see the point of spending all this money for a perpetual 7-5 or 8-4 program with a 9-3 ceiling. We could have had that for much cheaper by implementing some changes to Tedford's staff. No, I would expect Peterson to turn us into an elite program.

Fortunately, he is exactly the type of coach who can do that.

GB54;842016929 said:

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He also turned down Stanford -too southern norcal

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Stanfurd. You're not Berkeley enough.

Calntheplay;842016877 said:

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If Petersen has ever wondered what it would be like to Head coach in a powerhouse conference--Than I think we'll get him. Cal is the only place that makes complete sense, and his stock couldn't be higher. So if he's going to make a move, I think it's going to be now.

All of the other suitors that have pursued Petersen have been playing the coaching musical chairs for several years now, while Cal kept around it's dead weight HC for many more years than it should have.

From a coaching perspective, its comforting to know that you'll be taking over a 'losing program' with below average expectations, horrible graduation rates and a tremendously talented group of kids. I'm sure job security for Petersen probably means something to him. The bar is not set at the level of the other colleges that are pursuing him, or have pursued him in the past.

Cal offers-

1. Job security
2. Low expectations
3. High pay
4. Close to his family
5. upgraded facilities and stadium
6. Hot bed recruiting front that he'll be able to win
7. Inheriting an amazingly young, talented group of kids
8. An opportunity to goto a NC.
9. An AD department that has his back if he needs something
10. Horrible graduation rates (the bar is set low)
11. Great place to live and raise a family (surrounding Berkeley)

That is a tremendous value proposition that would win over most coaches. Obviously, the only thing Cal can't offer is a 6mil. contract, which Petersen has proved money is not the main factor in his decision.

If Petersen doesn't jump on this, IMHO it would be coaching suicide. 2 bad years of recruiting or bad QB play in Boise, will put him in the middle of his conference (which could happen with the quality of coaching increasing in the smaller divisions). The big time programs will eventually stop calling.


No way he takes the Oregon job. For the simple fact, Oregon would be unwilling to get rid of it's high octane offense. Oregon's OC will end up HC for another college team if Petersen comes in. I just don't see that happening.

So my guess is, Sandy offers Petersen 3 mil./year, over 4 years, with some incentives.

My personal preference in coaches-

Call me crazy, Petersen would not be my first choice. It would seem that every coach that has come out of that place has flopped big time, and it scares the bajezus outta me. Petersen could be different, but still, there is a risk.

I'd much rather go after a 3 year contract with Greg Roman. I think he'd be be spectacular, but I also think he'll get offers to be a HC in the NFL after this year. So the chances of this happening are slim IMO.

Petersen would be my 2nd choice if he agrees NOT to bring Gregory with him or any BBDB defense in general.

Hue would be my 3rd choice ONLY if he can bring an all-star staff with him.

SJSU coach would be my 4th choice

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Greg Roman!!!! Wait .... Hold on .... I just thee up inky mouth a little .... You don't understand the financial situation at all. We have to be exciting, score a lot, and win some games NEXT YEAR. We can't wait for a long term rebuilding. The AD is not in a financial position to do that.

Not quite sure why people keep harping on this "low expectations" deal. Didn't we just get rid of a Cal coach that had a pretty doggone good overall record? I think Cal fans are hungry for a great football program. Part of our problem is that we accepted mediocrity for too long. The new coach will have great new facilities and a very supportive fan base.....not to mention the attraction of a worldclass university. Time to drop this idea of "low expectations." Go Bears!!!

Right on, bro! I have stated this same thought on several occasions.....what's with this "low expectations" junk? Didn't we just get rid of a coach who had a pretty good overall won-lose record? Cal fans are ready to support a first class program! Time to dump this "low expectations" talk.....

txwharfrat;842017028 said:

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Greg Roman!!!! Wait .... Hold on .... I just thee up inky mouth a little .... You don't understand the financial situation at all. We have to be exciting, score a lot, and win some games NEXT YEAR. We can't wait for a long term rebuilding. The AD is not in a financial position to do that.

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Greg Roman is a great OC, but I am not convinced he has the personality to be a good HC (including recruiting). Seems like the same issue with Tedford all over again.

The Duke!;842017016 said:

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After all the money we will have to spend (or have spent already) to buy out Tedford, hire Peterson and his new staff, construct the SAHPC, and remodel Memorial, I do not have low expectations. And neither should any of you.

I would expect Peterson to get us in a BCS bowl very quickly (3 years or so). We have the talent and facilities. But our team lacks discipline, drive, innovation, and execution. I don't see the point of spending all this money for a perpetual 7-5 or 8-4 program with a 9-3 ceiling. We could have had that for much cheaper by implementing some changes to Tedford's staff. No, I would expect Peterson to turn us into an elite program.

Fortunately, he is exactly the type of coach who can do that.

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Haha that's exactly my point. 3 years is a very long time for most football programs. But he'd be given at least 4 with Cal. Could you imagine if he was the coach at UT and had a 5-6 season? Followed by a 6-6 season? One season like that in a high profile program like that, and he'd be on the hot seat, two seasons and he'd be gone. I think most teams vying for his services are very similar in that fashion. That's where Cal is different.

If he drops a couple season like that at Cal, we'd have drunkoski, OskiMD, and a couple others (including myself) moaning, maybe even questioning the hire. And possibly calling for a firing, but realistically, he'd be given ample opportunities to turn it around, and allowed to finish out his contract.

He would put butts in the seats wouldn't he? I say move all-in and make him an offer he can't refuse. What do we have to lose?

pappysghost;842017084 said:

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He would put butts in the seats wouldn't he? I say move all-in and make him an offer he can't refuse. What do we have to lose?

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I'd make it evident in his 'contract incentives' what Cal is after.

Very simple-

I. 3 mil. a year (base pay) (and one of the following a,b,c,d,or e)

a. 150k Bowl (any bowl less than a BCS)

b. 600k bonus for every BCS,

c. 1 mil. bonus for the RoseBowl,

d. 1.5 mil bonus for a NCG.

e. 2 mil. for a NCG Win


Next year when they role out with the 4 team playoff. I just don't see anyone other than a large conference being in the tournament. That will be an exciting time for football, and I'm sure he'll want an opportunity to be a part of it.

Calntheplay;842017102 said:

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I'd make it evident in his 'contract incentives' what Cal is after.

Very simple-

I. 3 mil. a year (base pay) (and one of the following a,b,c,d,or e)

a. 150k Bowl (any bowl less than a BCS)

b. 600k bonus for every BCS,

c. 1 mil. bonus for the RoseBowl,

d. 1.5 mil bonus for a NCG.

e. 2 mil. for a NCG Win


Next year when they role out with the 4 team playoff. I just don't see anyone other than a large conference being in the tournament. That will be an exciting time for football, and I'm sure he'll want an opportunity to be a part of it.

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$3 million a year in Berkeley would be less than he's making now when adjusting for cost of living. Cal would have to start at $4 million. That's the equivalent of $2 mil in Boise, ID.

AstoriaDuck;842017124 said:

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$3 million a year in Berkeley would be less than he's making now when adjusting for cost of living. Cal would have to start at $4 million. That's the equivalent of $2 mil in Boise, ID.

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True. But in his example, his pay ceiling is much higher than his ceiling at Boise. Even with Coast of living.

Calntheplay;842017071 said:

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Haha that's exactly my point. 3 years is a very long time for most football programs. But he'd be given at least 4 with Cal. Could you imagine if he was the coach at UT and had a 5-6 season? Followed by a 6-6 season? One season like that in a high profile program like that, and he'd be on the hot seat, two seasons and he'd be gone. I think most teams vying for his services are very similar in that fashion. That's where Cal is different.

If he drops a couple season like that at Cal, we'd have drunkoski, OskiMD, and a couple others (including myself) moaning, maybe even questioning the hire. And possibly calling for a firing, but realistically, he'd be given ample opportunities to turn it around, and allowed to finish out his contract.

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But there is a big difference between a BCS bowl and a losing season. I would expect a coach of his caliber to get us to a BCS is 3 years. But I would join the others in wanting his head if he didn't have a winning record in his first year, or even worse, his first two years. Everyone will expect AT LEAST a winning record next year if we hire Peterson. Many of us, myself included, will expect to be in contention for a spot in the Pac 12 championship game.

The expectations here are not low.