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Diaco is the antithesis of the SEC, so you can all but cross off Arkansas, Auburn, or Tennessee from this list as well. While Colorado and Cal are intriguing options — Bladschun mentioned that Cal met with Diaco in Chicago this weekend — the academic profile at Berkeley is a good fit, but a coordinator moving to their first head coaching job with next to zero experience on the West Coast would be a daring hire by Sandy Barbour.

That leaves Boston College and Purdue, both places that should take a long look at Diaco. With Diaco’s roots in the Northeast, he’s got a great grasp of the area and has had success recruiting the East Coast for the Irish. While the Eagles’ role in the ACC isn’t necessarily the strongest, and Boston College’s facilities aren’t up-to-snuff when compared to the rest of college football’s elite, it’s certainly a great first head coaching job, and the academic and spiritual aspects are a great fit for Diaco.

Of course, any reports of an interview are a long way from Diaco getting hired. As a first time head coach, Diaco might not be ready to be a major program’s CEO, and a major media market like Boston might take some shots at a coach that doesn’t always come off as eloquent in his dealings with the press.

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http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/12/02/report-bob-diaco-to-interview-at-boston-college/

Huge plus if the man can recruit.

Also, some interesting comments by Irish fans:

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dickasman - Dec 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Don’t do it Bobby….unless they give you at least 2 mil. BC would be the pits for first year coach. Youre gonna be one miserable sufferin suffatat!!! Take the Cal job. They’ve already got good talent there plus it’s not that hard to recruits to Cal.

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jimbasil - Dec 3, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Arkansas or CAL, not BC. BC isn’t a good fit for a first year HC. Actually, only Western M is a good fit for a first year HC but they can’t afford you. Stick with ND and get a few NC’s under your belt and then think of moving on. There will always be an opening at a quality university for a quality coach which as a better fit, if not in two or three seasons down the road, then it will be the next season after that.

Get a few NC games (playoff games) on your resume, schools will be knocking.

Trust your talent and know this is not a one year deal for you.

GO IRISH

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I still don't understand the fascination, if we were to take a risk we'd hire the Hue Jackson/D. Walker combo.

Jackson has HC experience, is a great offensive mind, and has had great relationships with his players. Walker is an above average and proven DC, also a recruiting ace. The Jackson/Walker combo will clean up recruiting in LA, and will provide a high ceiling on-field product.

Tell me what Diaco brings that Jackson/Walker lacks?

I am not crossing out Diaco as a successful HC in the future, but I don't feel Cal is in position to allow someone to learn on the job. I simply disagree with you that Diaco can make a short and smooth transition to HC, and hit the ground running out west.

In addition, its also fair to question how much of Diaco rise is attributed to Brian Kelly.

SnoozerBear;842028789 said:

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I still don't understand the fascination, if we were to take a risk we'd hire the Hue Jackson/D. Walker combo.

Jackson has HC experience, is a great offensive mind, and has had great relationships with his players. Walker is an above average and proven DC, also a recruiting ace. The Jackson/Walker combo will clean up recruiting in LA, and will provide a high ceiling on-field product.

Tell me what Diaco brings that Jackson/Walker lacks?

I am not crossing out Diaco as a successful HC in the future, but I don't feel Cal is in position to allow someone to learn on the job. I simply disagree with you that Diaco can make a short and smooth transition to HC, and hit the ground running out west.

In addition, its also fair to question how much of Diaco rise is attributed to Brian Kelly.

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What makes you think he would have to learn on the job? Diaco's been coaching college for about 14 years. Tedford wasn't a HC before he was hired and he was successful right out of the gate. Same with Shaw over at Stanford. Same with Chip Kelly at Oregon. (If it sounds like I'm making some of the same arguments, I apologize, but it sounds like people aren't reading the rest of the thread).

Look, Diaco is second in command of the top team in the country. And unlike other ballyhooed assistants like, say, Helfrich (who is talked about as Kelly's likely successor at Oregon) the defense is Diaco's baby, not the head coach's. He's got a lot of responsibility at the #1 team in the country. That's plus what he's done beforehand is more than enough for me.

Jackson's resume screams "journeyman" to me. He's technically got a lot of "experience", but he's bounced around all the time, and he's never built anything into greatness. I don't know the guy, so maybe this is a little unfair, but based on what I've read/heard about him, he's got a major ego, is all about himself, and has sort of a shyster/huckster character. Plus he's been an NFL guy so long, how would he relate to 18-22 year olds, and would he be able to develop them into young men who are successful on the field an in the classroom? Diaco seems to be that kind of guy based on what he's been doing at Notre Dame and elsewhere. Walker just took his team to a 1-10 performance this year. Jackson may have gotten a raw deal with the Raiders, but he had to latch onto a gig through a friend who created a new position for him, or else he'd be unemployed. I want to hire someone successful, someone at the top. I LOVE the idea of hiring someone from a place like Notre Dame or Alabama, with a culture and an expectation of being the best team in the country.

If Diaco is willing to wear that bucket hat on the sidelines for games, I say sign him up immediately.

BTW you guys saw the two EPIC goal line stands against stanfurd and USC, right? This is the guy who coached up that defense. Who instilled that character and determination and belief. Why wouldn't you want that guy on the Cal sideline?

atoms;842028804 said:

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What makes you think he would have to learn on the job? Diaco's been coaching college for about 14 years.

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Because he has never been a HC, and he has no ties to the west coast. Western Illinois is the closest to Berkeley he has coached at geographically. Cultural adjustments, recruiting networks, network of assistant coaches and numerous other additional tasks a co-HC doesn't have to do. Why take the risks when other capable candidates are available?

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Tedford wasn't a HC before he was hired and he was successful right out of the gate. Same with Shaw over at Stanford. Same with Chip Kelly at Oregon.

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Tedford never figured out how to be a HC, problems with the current team is attributed to Tedford's flaws as a HC. That's the main reason why I don't want someone without HC experience.

Harbaugh set Stanford in motion, Shaw maintained it after being in the program during that span. Shaw didn't have to change much at Stanford except to keep doing what they were doing. Diaco to Cal would be different.

Kelly was mentored by Bellotti for a few seasons before taking over, and Kelly brought an innovative offense with him. Kelly also didn't have to make many changes at Oregon as much of the staff was retained during the transition.

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Look, Diaco is second in command of the top team in the country. And unlike other ballyhooed assistants like, say, Helfrich (who is talked about as Kelly's likely successor at Oregon) the defense is Diaco's baby, not the head coach's. He's got a lot of responsibility at the #1 team in the country. That's plus what he's done beforehand is more than enough for me.

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Jackson's resume screams "journeyman" to me. He's technically got a lot of "experience", but he's bounced around all the time, and he's never built anything into greatness. I don't know the guy, so maybe this is a little unfair, but based on what I've read/heard about him, he's got a major ego, is all about himself, and has sort of a shyster/huckster character. Plus he's been an NFL guy so long, how would he relate to 18-22 year olds, and would he be able to develop them into young men who are successful on the field an in the classroom?

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Understand your doubts, and I am not going to defend Jackson, but he is charismatic and players like him.

atoms;842028809 said:

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BTW you guys saw the two EPIC goal line stands against stanfurd and USC, right? This is the guy who coached up that defense. Who instilled that character and determination and belief. Why wouldn't you want that guy on the Cal sideline?

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Dude, Furd got robbed. SC was unranked for a reason and played a competitive game. If SC was coached by a decent coach, they may have pulled it out.

Are you a closet Domer? Its okay we all have a second team.

With the guys coming back on D next year I would be excited to see what Diaco can dial up.

One outlet is reporting that he is one of the final 9, so he is still in the discussion for at least a couple of more days...

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I still don't understand the fascination, if we were to take a risk we'd hire the Hue Jackson/D. Walker combo.

Jackson has HC experience, is a great offensive mind, and has had great relationships with his players. Walker is an above average and proven DC, also a recruiting ace. The Jackson/Walker combo will clean up recruiting in LA, and will provide a high ceiling on-field product.

Tell me what Diaco brings that Jackson/Walker lacks?

I am not crossing out Diaco as a successful HC in the future, but I don't feel Cal is in position to allow someone to learn on the job. I simply disagree with you that Diaco can make a short and smooth transition to HC, and hit the ground running out west.

In addition, its also fair to question how much of Diaco rise is attributed to Brian Kelly.

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I am not excited about Walker at all. This would not be his first rodeo through the Pac as a DC. I have a hard time believing he would be fired up about this job. Norm Chow was great at SC and terrible at UCLA. Don't assume Walker would be automatically as good as he was at UCLA.

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I am not excited about Walker at all. This would not be his first rodeo through the Pac as a DC. I have a hard time believing he would be fired up about this job. Norm Chow was great at SC and terrible at UCLA. Don't assume Walker would be automatically as good as he was at UCLA.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Walker as DC if Dykes is chosen as the HC--it would give the new staff immediate West Coast connections, especially in L.A.

Dykes has said he can scheme offense, but defense is all about getting good athletes and Walker can do that.

If you're going the assistant route, I would much prefer that we get DeRuyter. IMO, he is a better DC than Diaco, has one year HC experience at Fresno State and is from southern California.

Why? It still plays an enormous role in university admissions at Cal, why would we be anything but comfortable with it?

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So, back 100 years we go.

I thought we could get beyond hiring based on skin color or religious preference. Especially in Berkeley.

Lets get the best qualified coach, period.

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Cal Geek;842028704 said:

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So, back 100 years we go.

I thought we could get beyond hiring based on skin color or religious preference. Especially in Berkeley.

Lets get the best qualified coach, period.

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vanity;842028949 said:

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Why? It still plays an enormous role in university admissions at Cal, why would we be anything but comfortable with it?

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It does? From California Watch article:

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The University of California Board of Regents in 1995 passed a resolution that eliminated race, religion, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin as criteria for admission to the university. The following year, California voters approved Proposition 209, which went further by also prohibiting race-conscious outreach and financial aid.

The percentage of underrepresented minority students admitted to the UC system dropped significantly as soon as Prop. 209 passed. Today, despite a number of policies and strategies employed by the university to diversify its student population, these groups remain a substantially smaller proportion of those admitted to and enrolled at the university’s most selective campuses – UC Berkeley and UCLA – than they were before the elimination of race-conscious policies.

What's more, the gap between the percentage of underrepresented minority students graduating from California high schools and the percentage enrolling at UC has widened.

At UC Berkeley, from 1995 to 1998, the number of admitted California resident African American, Latino and American Indian undergraduates dropped 58 percent. These students went from 27 percent of the admitted pool to 12 percent.

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But again, lets get the best qualified coach. Period.

SnoozerBear;842028814 said:

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Because he has never been a HC, and he has no ties to the west coast. Western Illinois is the closest to Berkeley he has coached at geographically. Cultural adjustments, recruiting networks, network of assistant coaches and numerous other additional tasks a co-HC doesn't have to do. Why take the risks when other capable candidates are available?

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I agree his lack of HC experience is a negative, but it's literally the ONLY negative, and it's not even close to being a dealbreaker as far as I'm concerned. Geography? That concern just seems preposterous to me. Football is football, and kids are kids. Diaco seems very intelligent and just a bit quirky. I think he'd fit in just great in Berkeley. Better than say, Sonny Dykes or Darrell Hazell or Mike MacIntyre. Recruiting networks? Notre Dame recruits all around the country, including and especially in California. Plus he can hire or retain staff who have specialized recruiting ties. The HC's job is to close the deal. Diaco is a charismatic, good recruiter, and I'm sure he'll be able to do that. To call geography a "risk" is plain silly talk. In my mind it's a plus. I want Cal to be able to EXPAND its recruiting reach and not just have to compete for the same kids that Oregon and USC have first dibs on year after year.

SnoozerBear;842028814 said:

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Tedford never figured out how to be a HC, problems with the current team is attributed to Tedford's flaws as a HC. That's the main reason why I don't want someone without HC experience.

Harbaugh set Stanford in motion, Shaw maintained it after being in the program during that span. Shaw didn't have to change much at Stanford except to keep doing what they were doing. Diaco to Cal would be different.

Kelly was mentored by Bellotti for a few seasons before taking over, and Kelly brought an innovative offense with him. Kelly also didn't have to make many changes at Oregon as much of the staff was retained during the transition.

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What are you talking about? Tedford was a successful HC for pretty much his first 5 years. Now, eventually he made mistakes and lost the plot, but that was due to his own flaws, and not due to "lack of HC experience" My entire point is that top coordinators become head coaches all the damn time and many are successful. All successful head coaches were coordinators at some point. The more talented ones become head coaches quicker and younger.

Also, you're willing to give Shaw and Kelly credit for being mentored by Harbaugh and Bellotti (though Kelly does not run Bellotti's system at Oregon), then why not give Diaco credit for being mentored by Brian Kelly? Are you saying he could successfully inherit Notre Dame's program but would somehow flop at Cal? That doesn't make sense. A good coach is a good coach.

SnoozerBear;842028817 said:

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Dude, Furd got robbed. SC was unranked for a reason and played a competitive game. If SC was coached by a decent coach, they may have pulled it out.

Are you a closet Domer? Its okay we all have a second team.

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"Furd got robbed"? What are you, a closet furd fan?? :p I think it could've gone either way. Taylor's elbow looked like it may have been down. I have no problem with the call.

Look, I have no love for Notre Dame. I graduated from Cal in '03 (went to grad school at Syracuse, so they're my "second team" btw), so for most of my college football experience, Notre Dame has been the single most overrated, underachieving program in the country. For most of the past decade before Kelly and Diaco were hired, they'd get hyped up all season by the media who desperately wanted them to succeed because they're Notre freaking Dame and Knute Rockne and Rudy blah blah blah MDWM, only to get trounced by USC, still make it to a nice bowl game that they didn't deserve, and then get pantsed again in the bowl game. It was really annoying. Plus they should just fucking join a conference already.

So even this year as they were undefeated I'd been skeptical for most of the season that they were actually any good. I thought teams like Alabama and Oregon and K-State and were CLEARLY better. But as they went along I slowly realized they were legit. That defense particularly is tough as nails. And they kept winning. I don't like them but I absolutely have respect.

Besides, if I were a ND fan, why would I be advocating that Cal poach the most valuable Irish assistant? Riddle me that!

atoms;842029004 said:

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What are you talking about? Tedford was a successful HC for pretty much his first 5 years. Now, eventually he made mistakes and lost the plot, but that was due to his own flaws, and not due to "lack of HC experience" My entire point is that top coordinators become head coaches all the damn time and many are successful.

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Tedford never developed managerial skills, that was one of his biggest flaws as HC.

He couldn't manage players, he couldn't keep good assistant coaches, and he eventually lost his offensive philosophy. A proven successful HC probably wouldn't have made Tedford's mistakes. Those are the reason why I say Tedford never developed into a successful HC, despite his earlier success.

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Also, you're willing to give Shaw and Kelly credit for being mentored by Harbaugh and Bellotti (though Kelly does not run Bellotti's system at Oregon), then why not give Diaco credit for being mentored by Brian Kelly? Are you saying he could successfully inherit Notre Dame's program but would somehow flop at Cal? That doesn't make sense. A good coach is a good coach.

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The point I wanted to make was the transition process was entirely different for the two coaches you compared Diaco with.

Having assistant coaches that worked at Oregon for years, and also being prepared for HC duties under Belotti, made Kelly's transition much easier than what Diaco is to face at Cal. Similar thing could be said about Shaw to a lesser degree.

Again its all about the degree of [U]risk[/U], Cal needs to be at/near BCS level with its next hire, and the safe pick would be a proven successful HC rather than a successful DC.

Nearly all of the top BCS programs (which Cal aspires to be under the next hire) hired head coaches with prior HC experience, and proven success (only exception off memory is Muschamp at Fla). The probability that Diaco is also an exception like Muschamp is low in that regard.

SnoozerBear;842029134 said:

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Again its all about the degree of [U]risk[/U], Cal needs to be at/near BCS level with its next hire, and the safe pick would be a proven successful HC rather than a successful DC.

Nearly all of the top BCS programs (which Cal aspires to be under the next hire) hired head coaches with prior HC experience, and proven success (only exception off memory is Muschamp at Fla). The probability that Diaco is also an exception like Muschamp is low in that regard.

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I agree that there's a risk/reward aspect, but that's why we need to pick a guy with the most TALENT, not necessarily the most HC experience. We need upside, not someone who's merely demonstrated himself to be a competent manager. Tedford was a competent manager, but he couldn't get us to the top. We didn't fire him just to get a low-risk, low-reward guy. I'm glad you mentioned Muschamp. He's a guy that was universally acclaimed as one of the best assistants in the country and a hot candidate to be a HC himself. I don't see why Diaco isn't in that category. He's universally talked about as one of the best up-and-comers in college football, much as Muschamp was before he got hired as a HC. Like Muschamp Diaco is a finalist for the Broyles award. If a program like Florida could hire a guy like Muschamp based on his talent, I don't see what would be so wrong if we did the same. As I've said throughout, I think having experience at a big time, well-run, elite football program, and seeing up close how a team can be successful at the highest echelons of the sport is very valuable, moreso than racking up victories against the dregs of the MAC or the WAC.

lol I guess that's what makes people different, you're a risk taker and I've always been risk-adverse. We'll just have to trust Sandy to make a judgment on the next hire, hopefully it'll be the right one for Cal regardless of our opinions. :beer:

SnoozerBear;842029194 said:

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lol I guess that's what makes people different, you're a risk taker and I've always been risk-adverse. We'll just have to trust Sandy to make a judgment on the next hire, hopefully it'll be the right one for Cal regardless of our opinions. :beer:

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haha, fair enough. We all just want what's best for the Cal program. I'm sure most of us would be very happy with a low-risk, high-reward hire, an obviously solid head coach like say Petersen or Charlie Strong or something, but if we can't get someone like that, I'd rather gamble on a young ambitious guy with serious talent. I liked Dave Doeren too, but he got snatched up already.

My opinion is, if we take a chance on a guy and he sucks, then we can fire him and try and get someone better. But I want someone to who can possibly take the program to the top. I want a Rose Bowl. 7-8 wins and a bowl game is a baseline expectation, but it's not the [U]goal[/U]. That's why I don't like the idea of a "safe" pick.

Diaco is my top choice if we can't land Peterson.

SnoozerBear;842028814 said:

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Because he has never been a HC, and he has no ties to the west coast.

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He's assistant HC at the #1 team in the country, just sayin'. Regarding recruiting, some quality assistants/recruiters can help with that immensely.

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http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/12/02/report-bob-diaco-to-interview-at-boston-college/

Huge plus if the man can recruit.

Also, some interesting comments by Irish fans:

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If offered to Diaco, I think the Boston College job would be hard for him to turn down.

To me, they are like Notre Dame-Lite and would love more of a ND connection besides being the program that knocked off undefeated ND teams in 1993 and 2002.

The famous Doug Flutie connection is nice, but like Cal and "the Play", that was a long time ago.

Our Domicile;842029247 said:

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If offered to Diaco, I think the Boston College job would be hard for him to turn down.

To me, they are like Notre Dame-Lite and would love more of a ND connection besides being the program that knocked off undefeated ND teams in 1993 and 2002.

The famous Doug Flutie connection is nice, but like Cal and "the Play", that was a long time ago.

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BC is not an attractive job. Diaco along with Smart are the two hot assistants right now. He can do much better. Not much of a recruiting base in the northeast and Flute was a loooong time ago.

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BC is not an attractive job. Diaco along with Smart are the two hot assistants right now. He can do much better. Not much of a recruiting base in the northeast and Flute was a loooong time ago.

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BC's not a good job

1) Pro city. Nobody cares about college sports
2) NE is a terrible recruiting base for football
3) Subpar facilities.
4) They are cheap
5) High graduation rates-over 90%
6) Crumbling conference

OTOH Diaco knows the drill there, with a very slight learning curve and will be very effective imo in recruiting the 280 lb linemen heretofore going to PaState

Our Domicile;842029247 said:

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If offered to Diaco, I think the Boston College job would be hard for him to turn down.

To me, they are like Notre Dame-Lite and would love more of a ND connection besides being the program that knocked off undefeated ND teams in 1993 and 2002.

The famous Doug Flutie connection is nice, but like Cal and "the Play", that was a long time ago.

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Notre Dame-VERY VERY Lite

Besides, why on earth would Diaco need a Notre Dame connection? He's worked there 3 whole years. He's worked at Cincinnati, Virginia, Central Michigan... He's an Iowa grad. Those are all state public schools.

He might well take the BC job if it's offered to him, but you'd HAVE to imagine that at least on paper (and not counting other random factors that we can't predict right now like maybe Diaco loves Boston or his wife is from there or he feels some kind of Catholic connection or whatever), Cal is a much more attractive job than BC.

1) We can probably pay more
2) Brand spanking new $500M facility upgrade more or less completed, one of the nicest venues in college sports
3) Sitting on 3 straight top-25 recruiting classes, lots of talent on both sides of the ball, including a top QB recruit who just redshirted. So it shouldn't be too hard to start winning a few more games and look like a genius.
4) Fertile recruiting grounds in CA compared to the Northeast
5) Pac-12 is a better conference, lots of potential exposure with the P12N

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He's assistant HC at the #1 team in the country, just sayin'. Regarding recruiting, some quality assistants/recruiters can help with that immensely.

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Gould holds the same title, so I am not sure if it means much.


Just a few final thoughts:

High risk is high risk, it doesn't equate high reward, we're not confined to the casino risk/reward model. There is nothing that indicates a moderate risk hire like MacIntyre is limited with moderate rewards.

In fact, out of all the BCS games already played, there has been 60 different coaches. Out of those 60, only 10 fits the profile of Diaco in 1. having had no prior HC experience. 2. and were hired from outside the program as opposed to promoted from within.

16% - 10 out of 60 BCS coaches had similar to backgrounds like Diaco's when hired at their eventual BCS programs.

10% - If we add a filter, and only consider an arbitrary window of 5 years (because we're all hopeful our new coach is capable of taking us to the BCS within that time fram), only 6 out of 90 BCS coaches without prior HC experience have taken their program to a BCS bowl within their first 5 years, at their new program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series


We can further filter the odds of Diaco's taking Cal to a BCS by examining the number of years these 10 coaches held Coordinator positions:

Diaco - 1 year as DC

Dana Holgorsen - 6 years as OC
Randy Edsall - 11 years as DC
Mark Mangino - 2 years as OC
Bobby Petrino - 11 years as OC
Charlie Weis - 8 years as OC (NFL)
Bill Snyder - 10 years as OC (first BCS in 14th year as HC)
Mark Richt - 11 years as OC
Ralph Friedgen - 22 years as OC
Bob Stoops - 8 years as DC
Butch Davis - 2 years as DC (NFL)

So 8 out of these 10 coaches had 5 years or more of coordinator experience, compared to Diaco's 1 year of DC experience.

Again, I am not saying Diaco isn't the next Saban, but I think he is unproven at this point.

SnoozerBear;842029471 said:

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Gould holds the same title, so I am not sure if it means much.


Just a few final thoughts:

High risk is high risk, it doesn't equate high reward, we're not confined to the casino risk/reward model. There is nothing that indicates a moderate risk hire like MacIntyre is limited with moderate rewards.

In fact, out of all the BCS games already played, there has been 60 different coaches. Out of those 60, only 10 fits the profile of Diaco in 1. having had no prior HC experience. 2. and were hired from outside the program as opposed to promoted from within.

16% - 10 out of 60 BCS coaches had similar to backgrounds like Diaco's when hired at their eventual BCS programs.

10% - If we add a filter, and only consider an arbitrary window of 5 years (because we're all hopeful our new coach is capable of taking us to the BCS within that time fram), only 6 out of 90 BCS coaches without prior HC experience have taken their program to a BCS bowl within their first 5 years, at their new program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series


We can further filter the odds of Diaco's taking Cal to a BCS by examining the number of years these 10 coaches held Coordinator positions:

Diaco - 1 year as DC

Dana Holgorsen - 6 years as OC
Randy Edsall - 11 years as DC
Mark Mangino - 2 years as OC
Bobby Petrino - 11 years as OC
Charlie Weis - 8 years as OC (NFL)
Bill Snyder - 10 years as OC (first BCS in 14th year as HC)
Mark Richt - 11 years as OC
Ralph Friedgen - 22 years as OC
Bob Stoops - 8 years as DC
Butch Davis - 2 years as DC (NFL)

So 8 out of these 10 coaches had 5 years or more of coordinator experience, compared to Diaco's 1 year of DC experience.

Again, I am not saying Diaco isn't the next Saban, but I think he is unproven at this point.

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Dude, have you even looked at his bio? Diaco doesn't have "1 year of DC experience". He's been DC at Notre Dame for the past 3 years alone.

He was co-DC and LB coach at Central Michigan in 2005. So that's 1 year right there. Then he was LB and ST coach at Virginia for 3 years (2006-2008) under Al Groh, so that's not DC but it's 2 different positions he was responsible for. Then he was DC at Cincinnati in 2009, and then as I noted he's been DC at Notre Dame for 3 years.

So there you go, he has your arbitrary requisite 5 years of DC experience. 1 at Central Michigan + 1 at Cincinnati + 3 at Notre Dame = 5.

He's 39 years old and he's been a college-level football coach for like 14 years total. He's not exactly a greenhorn here.

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Dude, have you even looked at his bio? Diaco doesn't have "1 year of DC experience".

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I couldn't read through that messy bio of his at ND, and he doesn't have a clear coaching record listed anywhere (prob because he is so inexperienced lol jk)

No arbitrary 5 year for coordinator experience, just stating a desired 5 year BCS window.

Still high risk with no guaranteed higher reward compared to other candidates.

Just my opinion though.

SnoozerBear;842029505 said:

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No arbitrary 5 year for coordinator experience, just stating a desired 5 year BCS window.

Still high risk with no guaranteed higher reward compared to other candidates.

Just my opinion though.

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That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but being a DC for 1 year vs. being a DC for 5 years is a significant difference (as you yourself were trying to argue in your post), so I'm just saying, let's not misrepresent his resume and evaluate him for what he has actually done. I wouldn't want to take a leap on a first-year coordinator either. But this guy has been DC at 3 separate Division I schools, and he has been successful all along the way.

Also I'd like to point out that NO candidate has a "guaranteed" anything. Even Chris Petersen could possibly be a flop; you never know. Of course it's less likely that he would flop than most other candidates, that's why he's at the top of the list. But I'll live with a flop if the possibility for great success is there. Obviously it's up to Sandy to judge the coaching talent, but this guy seems to have it.

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Also I'd like to point out that NO candidate has a "guaranteed" anything. Even Chris Petersen could possibly be a flop; you never know. Of course it's less likely that he would flop than most other candidates, that's why he's at the top of the list.

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I agree Atoms, but hey one last thing against Diaco, good HCs aren't good looking (no homo), so I have even more doubts about Diaco. lol jk :p

SnoozerBear;842029557 said:

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I agree Atoms, but hey one last thing against Diaco, good HCs aren't good looking (no homo), so I have even more doubts about Diaco. lol jk :p

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LOL I won't lie, that's another thing I like about him, though obviously it's way way way down on the list in "icing on the cake" territory. Who wouldn't want a good looking human being like that as a public face for your alma mater! I mean, he even LOOKS like a winner, haha.

CP is better looking according to my wife.

NYCGOBEARS;842029569 said:

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CP is better looking according to my wife.

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Diaco looks like he could be the missing member of the Winklevoss triplets.

TheSouseFamily;842029573 said:

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Diaco looks like he could be the missing member of the Winklevoss triplets.

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Hahaha. Nice guys actually.