Of course California and the West can't keep up with SEC speed and East Coast talent. Map plotting the location of the newly released Rivals100...

the bias is clear

Scout is pretty bias to the West Coast, especially UW recruits.

ESPN is pretty bias to the South.

It is what it is.

That map also highly correlates to population density, particularly given the ethnic mix of FBS football players. I'm not saying there isn't bias, but it's not as glaring as the map makes it out to be.

EDIT: didn't realize the numbers corresponded to the ranking of recruits and that each flag represents an individual.

The funny thing is the quota they have for certain regions. I think espn has had exactly 13 recruits in the top 100 every single year they've done ratings

hanky1;842079147 said:

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The funny thing is the quota they have for certain regions. I think espn has had exactly 13 recruits in the top 100 every single year they've done ratings

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Shouldn't ESPN have 100 recruits in their top 100 every single year they do ratings?

More populous states produce more players? Who'd o' thunk it?

StillNoStanfurdium;842079149 said:

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Shouldn't ESPN have 100 recruits in their top 100 every single year they do ratings?

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aahhh typo. I meant to say 13 recruits from Florida every single year in the top 100.

Cal Panda Bear;842079132 said:

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Scout is pretty bias to the West Coast, especially UW recruits.

ESPN is pretty bias to the South.

It is what it is.

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that's just false, idk why it's continued to spread. that mightve been slightly true back when Condotta had anything to do w/ rankings, but hasn't been the case for a long time now.

Per capita, might be an interesting approach too... CA ain't so hot from that perspective.

Do we have any connections in Louisiana?

It's still early, things will change around, and it is possible that this year is just a down year for talent. It isn't always spread evenly.

Also, from Rivals :

"But everyone needs to remember that the first one is far from the final one. We evaluate prospects in person and on junior film, but we learn so much about them between each new ranking. But this is a terrific start, we feel very comfortable with this first release."

At #20, Keller Chryst, Palo Alto................... Let's whoop Stanford and take him from their backyard.

jebus;842079207 said:

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At #20, Keller Chryst, Palo Alto................... Let's whoop Stanford and take him from their backyard.

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his dad is Geep Chryst, the 49ers QB coach...

Well, even more of an upset. F**k the turds.

if you add up the flagged numbers, way over 100??

beeasyed;842079107 said:

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Of course California and the West can't keep up with SEC speed and East Coast talent. Map plotting the location of the newly released Rivals100...

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Well, if this leads to less national recruiting "in our backyard," then Sonny and his boys can take advantage...

Oakbear;842079299 said:

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if you add up the flagged numbers, way over 100??

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Each flag refers to a single recruit (for example: the #8 and #20 recruits are from California)

ursaurum;842079327 said:

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Each flag refers to a single recruit (for example: the #8 and #20 recruits are from California)

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Oh wow, that's just crazy then. Hard to believe only 3 of the top 100 players in the country are west of Austin.

Unit2Sucks;842079330 said:

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Oh wow, that's just crazy then. Hard to believe only 3 of the top 100 players in the country are west of Austin.

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false. arizona has like 5 players in rivals top100. NV has 1. Norcal has like 4 players. check again. that map doesn't include ALL 100 players

Unit2Sucks;842079330 said:

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Oh wow, that's just crazy then. Hard to believe only 3 of the top 100 players in the country are west of Austin.

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i apologize for posting a misleading map, they didnt flag all the 100 players, but the distribution for the top 100 is still skewed toward the east and south.

of the top100 from west, there are only (15/100):

7 CA
5 AZ
1 WA
1 UT
1 NV

0 OR
0 CO
0 NM
0 ID

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they mostly come from the south and texas (71/100):

14 TX
12 FL
10 GA
7 VA
5 LA
5 AL
4 TN
4 NC
3 OH
2 AR
2 OK
1 MD
1 SC
1 KS

Okay. Just throwing this out there - those numbers correlate highly with african american demographics in the US. Top 5 states by african american population - NY (outlier since many are in NYC which doesn't have a lot of HS football), Florida (#2 in Rivals 100), Texas (#1), Georgia (#3), California (#4).

See here:
http://www.blackdemographics.com/population.html#anchor_400

Unit2Sucks;842079420 said:

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Okay. Just throwing this out there - those numbers correlate highly with african american demographics in the US. Top 5 states by african american population - NY (outlier since many are in NYC which doesn't have a lot of HS football), Florida (#2 in Rivals 100), Texas (#1), Georgia (#3), California (#4).

See here:
http://www.blackdemographics.com/population.html#anchor_400

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Seems like common sense. First thing I thought of when I saw the map.

Bobodeluxe;842079155 said:

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More populous states produce more players? Who'd o' thunk it?

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Lots of New York and New Jersey players without a lot of in-state programs (save maybe Syracuse) to attract them.

The main point I get from these "rankings", especially with geographics between the 'rating' organizations, is that rankings is bull and people trying to take rankings as objective is silly.
If Sonny gets most of the players that HE wants, that's good ...
Maybe he'll get "5 star' or "4 star" players ... but getting guys who can play in his system, who are into the system and not themselves, is the key to future classes.
Sonny wants players who understand what being a part of THE University of California means.

SonOfCalVa;842079507 said:

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The main point I get from these "rankings", especially with geographics between the 'rating' organizations, is that rankings is bull and people trying to take rankings as objective is silly.
If Sonny gets most of the players that HE wants, that's good ...
Maybe he'll get "5 star' or "4 star" players ... but getting guys who can play in his system, who are into the system and not themselves, is the key to future classes.
Sonny wants players who understand what being a part of THE University of California means.

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- nobody said rankings were always objective
- nobody sees those rankings as gospel, they are questioned all the time
- fans don't know which players Sonny REALLY wants or are Plan B choices
- rankings give fans a general sense of the caliber of the players we recruit, from an athletic ability standpoint, and it quantifies a process we don't really know about.