ESP Ticket Super Sale

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Cal Geek
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ESP Ticket Holders:

There are ESP season tickets available for the upcoming season only. Invite your friends, or get someone that might be interested in ESP tickets and just wants to try a season.

Field Club $700 per season ticket
Stadium Club $1400 per season ticket
University Club $2500 per season ticket

I got two tickets on Row 10, just 4 seats from mid-field.
fjbards
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Are those prices per game or per season?
Davidson
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per season ticket
Cal Geek
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fjbards;842107083 said:

Are those prices per game or per season?


Edited OP to better indicate the prices are for SEASON tickets. It's more than 80% discounted. And about half the price (at least on the Field Club tickets) is considered a donation for tax purposes. (I would guess the Stadium Club would be more than that for donation.)
Bobodeluxe
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Did all the ESP seat holders have to sign off on this promo, or did they get around that problem by making these tickets available only to present ESP participants?
fjbards
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OK! Is there any prohibition is several people sharing a season ticket package?
My wife and I live in San Diego and get up for one game a season. More than that doesn't work for us. I usually go to stubhub and pay over $200 for one ticket to one of the big games (Tenn., Stanfurd, Southern Branch etc.). It usually takes that much to get between the endzones. I've been planning to come up for the Ohio State game and pay whatever it takes to get at least a seat back type of seat. There must be a way to make this work for a group of people who are similarly situated.
Cal Geek
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It's open to ESP ticket holders. Or they could buy for friends that were interested.
jposlosky
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Cal Geek;842107031 said:

ESP Ticket Holders:

There are ESP season tickets available for the upcoming season only. Invite your friends, or get someone that might be interested in ESP tickets and just wants to try a season.

Field Club $700 per season ticket
Stadium Club $1400 per season ticket
University Club $2500 per season ticket

I got two tickets on Row 10, just 4 seats from mid-field.


Nice score! I hope you like the seats, i was in row 7 about same exact location for the spring game and found them a little low for me.
Cal Geek
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jposlosky;842107099 said:

Nice score! I hope you like the seats, i was in row 7 about same exact location for the spring game and found them a little low for me.


They had quite a few Field Club tickets in rows 8,9,10 available when I talked with them this morning.
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Do they have a payment plan for these?
BearyBearyGood
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MiZery;842107103 said:

Do they have a payment plan for these?


Yes, you pay them in cash or by credit card and they send you the tickets. :p It's the same as any season tickets and that's what we ESPers have to do.
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Cal Geek;842107088 said:

It's more than 80% discounted.


Is this a new program? Wasn't something like this also available last year? If so, how do this season's prices compare to the previous prices?

The prices are 80% off of the mid-range price that someone would pay on the 30-year plan. It is great that Berkeley's ticket office figured out that 20% of a seat sale is greater than 100% of nothing.

Corporations are being offered University Club seats at 63% off of the mid-range 30-year University Club price.

http://www.calbears.com/tickets/premium.html

Are these single-season tickets and corporate sales going to be counted as "Seats Sold" in the quarterly ESP report?

http://www.calbears.com/genrel/advancingCalAthletics_esp.html

Let's hope this leads to a lot more revenue for athletics.
Cal Geek
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BufEnuf;842107122 said:



The prices are 80% off of the mid-range price that someone would pay on the 30-year plan. It is great that Berkeley's ticket office figured out that 20% of a seat sale is greater than 100% of nothing.



Which reminds me, the seats I got in Row 10 (and I think all the "Perk" seats being offered in Field Club) are actually the high-level, Field Club "A" seats, so the savings off those is a bit more than 80%.
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BufEnuf;842107122 said:

Is this a new program? Wasn't something like this also available last year? If so, how do this season's prices compare to the previous prices?

The prices are 80% off of the mid-range price that someone would pay on the 30-year plan. It is great that Berkeley's ticket office figured out that 20% of a seat sale is greater than 100% of nothing.

Corporations are being offered University Club seats at 63% off of the mid-range 30-year University Club price.

http://www.calbears.com/tickets/premium.html

Are these single-season tickets and corporate sales going to be counted as "Seats Sold" in the quarterly ESP report?

http://www.calbears.com/genrel/advancingCalAthletics_esp.html

Let's hope this leads to a lot more revenue for athletics.


Not a new program, it was offered last year at the same price, I believe. I believe there is a section on the ESP report for additional revenue, which this falls under, I think. So, this doesn't count as seats sold.

80% off the 30-year plan is a bit misleading, as they don't cover the same thing. A 30-year plan represents the cost over 30 years for 40-50 years worth of seats, so the benefit there is greater. By buying a single year, you are not getting the extra years that the 30-year plan offers, nor the rights to renew at the ends of the 40-50 years, nor the ability to resell/transfer the tickets in the future.
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Bobodeluxe;842107089 said:

Did all the ESP seat holders have to sign off on this promo, or did they get around that problem by making these tickets available only to present ESP participants?


No, ESP seatholders did not sign off on this promotion. Presumably, the AD felt that making the deal available only to ESP participants was sufficient. If this promotion last only one or two years, that's probably OK. If it goes beyond that, there might be trouble.
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Golden One;842107738 said:

No, ESP seatholders did not sign off on this promotion. Presumably, the AD felt that making the deal available only to ESP participants was sufficient. If this promotion last only one or two years, that's probably OK. If it goes beyond that, there might be trouble.


Huh? Why shouldn't it last until every last seat is sold? Why forfeit the revenue?

As an owner of ESP seats, I have no problem with this as long as there are open seats. As a purchaser of single season tickets, you have no guarantee that your tickets will be available the next year, so until someone buys the seats, it's fair game.
Golden One
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NeverOddOrEven;842107739 said:

Huh? Why shouldn't it last until every last seat is sold?



Because this promotion breaks the "contract" that the AD has with ESP seat holders. I'm own 2 ESP seats, and I'll be pretty pissed if this promotion continues indefinitely. It's simply a mechanism whereby non-ESP seatholders can obtain ESP seating through friends and relatives who are ESP participants, thereby bypassing the long-term commitment required of ESP seatholders.
Bear8
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Is there a credit against what we have already paid for non-ESP seats? I would like to buy into the Stadium Club for an additional fee, minus what I have paid for Section H seats.
Bobodeluxe
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Near desperation seems to be forcing the AD's hand. I hope the good folks who purchased ESP's are being kept in the loop. Don't bite the hand, and all.
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Golden One;842107740 said:

Because this promotion breaks the "contract" that the AD has with ESP seat holders. I'm own 2 ESP seats, and I'll be pretty pissed if this promotion continues indefinitely. It's simply a mechanism whereby non-ESP seatholders can obtain ESP seating through friends and relatives who are ESP participants, thereby bypassing the long-term commitment required of ESP seatholders.


Not that I don't see your perspective, but I'm inclined to disagree with your conclusion, although I don't dispute the basis of your facts.

I think this short-term program represents long-term thinking by the AD in light of the current situation. Those who enjoy the seats enough will buy into the program for the long-term; maybe the finances are just not working out at the moment for individuals, as is the case for many people in the last few years. It is also a way to generate incremental revenue and provide a (hopefully) better experience for all by increasing the density of the crowd.

On the flip side, I can see a pessimistic viewpoint of the clubs and such being more crowded or the "freeloaders", for lack of a better term, getting out of a long-term commitment. Additionally, the seats might end up falling into the hands of the opposing teams' fans -- but I think this is more a risk with long-term seats, than short-term -- or that we may start to see more riffraff in the sections.

However, in the end, I don't share the view of many who say that people will drop out of their long-term commitments after a few years, just because they are unwilling to pay more for whatever reason and are able to drop out without penalty (and I have mentioned reasons for this in other threads, which I will not repeat here). Therefore, I also think that seat sales, however slow, will increase each year -- especially after the years of one of the worst recessions in many decades -- and these short-term tickets will become more and more scarce, however long the program continues.

I will qualify this by saying that I am much, much younger than the typical ESP seat holder and it is my doe-eyed perspective which informs these views. I also enjoy dense crowds, standing for long periods (although I do respect those around me), and making lots of noise frequently -- in a non-vulgar, but unapologetic manner -- which I understand are interests not shared by the majority in these sections. I do hope to change this culture, however slowly, and get people to participate more, as when they were younger.
Cal Geek
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Bobodeluxe;842107759 said:

Near desperation seems to be forcing the AD's hand. I hope the good folks who purchased ESP's are being kept in the loop.


ESP ticket holders are being kept in the loop, since they are the only ones that can purchase these "Perk ESP" tickets.
Cal Geek
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6bear6;842107755 said:

Is there a credit against what we have already paid for non-ESP seats? I would like to buy into the Stadium Club for an additional fee, minus what I have paid for Section H seats.


If you already are an ESP tickeholder then you are eligible for this deal. If you are, and have non-ESP seats you want to upgrade, you might ask your Gold Standard rep about doing this.

(Section H covers both ESP seats and BenchBacks I think.)
Golden One
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As I said, I don't have a problem so long as this is a "short-term" promotion.

I share your view that most fans will not drop out of their long-term commitment to the ESP program, especially if the football team is successful under Dykes. The ESP program suffered not only because of the 4-year recession, but also because concurrently the football program went into the toilet in Tedford's last few years. If Dykes can restore a winning tradition to Cal football similar to Tedford 2004 and 2006, the sale of long-term ESP seats will improve, and the need for a short-term promotional program will diminish.
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Golden One;842107740 said:

It's simply a mechanism whereby non-ESP seatholders can obtain ESP seating through friends and relatives who are ESP participants, thereby bypassing the long-term commitment required of ESP seatholders.


Maybe someone can help me out here? I thought I read not too long ago that there is no long-term commitment required of ESP seat holders. A search of the San Francisco Chronicle and the San Jose Mercury News turned up nothing. The Daily Cal has a couple of articles that seem to corroborate the lack of long term commitment, in contradiction to what the ESP seat holders here are saying.

http://www.dailycal.org/search/esp
Cal Geek
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BufEnuf;842107959 said:

Maybe someone can help me out here? I thought I read not too long ago that there is no long-term commitment required of ESP seat holders. A search of the San Francisco Chronicle and the San Jose Mercury News turned up nothing. The Daily Cal has a couple of articles that seem to corroborate the lack of long term commitment, in contradiction to what the ESP seat holders here are saying.

http://www.dailycal.org/search/esp


You sign an agreement for 40-50 years. But you can back out of it at any time.
The tickets that I am talking about here, on this thread, are called ESP Perk tickets, you must have other ESP tickets to buy. And they ESP Perk tickets are good for only one year.
davetdds
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So, I would like to possibly try this out. If there are any ESP tickets holders that would like to purchase a couple of tickets for me on my behalf,I'll just front you the dough. So PM me and we can figure it out.
Thanks in advance!!!!!
Golden One
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BufEnuf;842107959 said:

Maybe someone can help me out here? I thought I read not too long ago that there is no long-term commitment required of ESP seat holders. A search of the San Francisco Chronicle and the San Jose Mercury News turned up nothing. The Daily Cal has a couple of articles that seem to corroborate the lack of long term commitment, in contradiction to what the ESP seat holders here are saying.

http://www.dailycal.org/search/esp


If you pay the full fare up front, you're committed for 40-50 years, depending on which level you buy into. There is no provision for a refund. If you sign on for the time payment plan, then you can back out of the remaining payments at any time.
Golden One
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Cal Geek;842107964 said:

But you can back out of it at any time.



Not if you've paid in full up front.
Cal Geek
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Cal Geek;842107964 said:

You sign an agreement for 40-50 years. But you can back out of it at any time.
The tickets that I am talking about here, on this thread, are called ESP Perk tickets, you must have other ESP tickets to buy. And they ESP Perk tickets are good for only one year.


Golden One;842108114 said:

Not if you've paid in full up front.


Well, you can back out. You might take a larger loss than those that choose to pay over 30 years. But for those that paid up front, there is the option to sell to someone else.
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