BoaltBear;842128572 said:

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I miss Jahvid.

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Watching these highlight films, Boalt, I was thinking the same thing...

calumnus;842128566 said:

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Yep, he had 4 carries against Tennesee (for 46 yards) and 2 carries against Colorado State (for 73 yards). 29 carries on the season. Last year Bigelow had 44 carries.

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jahvid was also a true freshman i believe vs bigelow a blueshirt. i also wouldnt feel as much pressure to give jahvid as many carries because he had forsett in front of him. forsett was brilliant in 2006. last year bigelow had isi and cj who werent exactly world beaters.

gobears725;842128595 said:

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jahvid was also a true freshman i believe vs bigelow a blueshirt. i also wouldnt feel as much pressure to give jahvid as many carries because he had forsett in front of him. forsett was brilliant in 2006. last year bigelow had isi and cj who werent exactly world beaters.

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CJ is very underrated (as a senior); he's not vereen but he's not many steps down. Without a doubt he should have had 70% of the carries last year.

the carries should have went something like this, 150-175 cj, 60-70 bigelow, 40-50 isi. with bigelow getting an additional 30 in the passing game. it needed to be closer to how oregon uses thomas.

it didnt matter that isi had 1300 yards the year before. it was blatantly obvious that both backs had passed him up, yet tedford played him on what he did the year before.

jamonit;842128562 said:

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Jeff Demps wasn't that bad at Florida. He focused a lot on track so his training was different and missed a lot of football practices. He still rushed for 2470 yards in 4 years on 367 carries (6.73 average) and 23 TDs. He also had another 481 yards on 57 catches and had 21 KR for 604 yards (28.8 average). Not bad for a guy who focused more on track than football. As a matter of fact he forgo trying for the NFL so he could compete in the 2012 Olympics where I think he got a medal. After that signed with the Patriots and was traded during the draft to TB for LeGarrett Blount.

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Interesting - didn't realize his numbers were that good since he never looked as explosive as Harvin even though he was quite a bit faster on the track. Just watched one of his college highlight tapes and he had some nice plays but didn't play as fast as his 10.01 speed would indicate. Maybe that's because he wasn't 100% focused on football but maybe it's because he didn't have the vision, instincts or elite cutting ability. I hope Khal has all those things and blows up in a good way for us. If he has the goods, Sonny will give him every opportunity to succeed.

Cal Insider;842128463 said:

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to be honest.....I don't think Muhammad looked as fast in his highlights as Best or Bigelow. Also, if you see his 100 meters, he's not even close to the fastest in the first 40 yds or 60 yds, something that is way more important on the football field.

Jahvid and Bigelow are both extremely fast starters/acceleration.

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That was true in KM's soph & jr years, but as a senior Khal Mu is 1-2+ steps ahead of the rest of the field at the 40/60 marks in all races I've seen.

See HERE for a recent example.

I saw him play on TV against very good top level SoCal teams and he was surprisingly physical and has good moves as an RB. He was very limited by the offense ND played in those games ( he ran inside the tackles). He looked more like a Forsett type than JB. However, in Sonny's offense, fans will get to see his superior speed as a major weapon for the Bears, and a big headache for opponent's DCs. BTW, in my experience as a coach I found speed is speed, and guys with KM's speed will be faster than everyone else on the field in pads as well as in a track meet. KM and BB (if healthy) will make the Bear Raid very, very dangerous.That is why Sonny won't blueshirt. KM will be a key player from day one, and Sonny will probably play him in different spots and different formations to get him in open space against slower defenders.ykes:gobears:

No one looked as fast as Best in pads

I'm excited about kick returns. Pick your poison. Teams won't be able to kick away from Bigelow anymore.

...C. J. Spiller and Jacoby Ford.

ayetee11;842128629 said:

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No one looked as fast as Best in pads

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Wrong. Again, go back and look at Charles and Johnson, for example.

gobears725;842128595 said:

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jahvid was also a true freshman i believe vs bigelow a blueshirt. i also wouldnt feel as much pressure to give jahvid as many carries because he had forsett in front of him. forsett was brilliant in 2006. last year bigelow had isi and cj who werent exactly world beaters.

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2007 Forsett 305 carries 5.1 ypc

2012 Sofele 146 carries 5.2 ypc
2012 Anderson 126 carries 6.3 ypc

so are you going to argue that isi and cj as duo were even close to as good as one forsett? theres a good one, the stats dont tell you that isi continually had trouble breaking tackles and taking a play to the outside or that cj did not have the speed to break one if needed.

my take on it, cj should have had isi's amount of carries, bigelow should have been next and then isi. i mean of course we could always go back to the way tedford did it and win 3 games all over again.

the reason being is the cj was pretty good at being a moving the chains kind of back and he was big enough to still gain yards even with a suspect o line, but you needed bigelow to break one maybe once or twice a game because our passing game was not good enough to sustain drives, maynard was too inconsistent and as was our pass blocking, the odd one out on that team should have been isi, if we had a better qb and better o line, then perhaps you dont need to switch it up, but my feeling is that our offense dictated that there needed to be change and tedford stubbornly wouldnt go there. bigelow needed to get a lot more touches in order to give the offense at least some semblance of big play ability. it was just too easy because teams did not have to even stack the box to feel that they had a decent chance to stop isi, therefore allowing them to concentrate on either double teaming KA, which maynard would just throw into anyway or blitz and just sack maynard. a CJ and bigelow combination was the only way that we could have forced opposing defenses enough to respect our run enough so that they would have had to stack the box so that they couldnt double KA or stop jail break blitzing us, which we had almost no chance of stopping.

the thing is that tedford had a similar type of offense in 2007 when both longshore and riley struggled that year, but what saved that team was jahvid best's big play ability. could you imagine how anemic that offense would have been if they had isi and cj instead? in 2012 he basically had jahvid best 2.0 the only person with the ability to make the offense functional in bigelow and he sat him and its a big reason why SD is now coaching this football team.

SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA;842128636 said:

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I'm excited about kick returns. Pick your poison. Teams won't be able to kick away from Bigelow anymore.

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I don't think I would want Bigelow returning kicks anymore. Maybe Lasco, Willis(if healthy), or KM.

SouthBayPhenom;842128645 said:

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Wrong. Again, go back and look at Charles and Johnson, for example.

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You got your opinion, I got mine.

gobears725;842128656 said:

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so are you going to argue that isi and cj as duo were even close to as good as one forsett? theres a good one, the stats dont tell you that isi continually had trouble breaking tackles and taking a play to the outside or that cj did not have the speed to break one if needed.

my take on it, cj should have had isi's amount of carries, bigelow should have been next and then isi. i mean of course we could always go back to the way tedford did it and win 3 games all over again.

the reason being is the cj was pretty good at being a moving the chains kind of back and he was big enough to still gain yards even with a suspect o line, but you needed bigelow to break one maybe once or twice a game because our passing game was not good enough to sustain drives, maynard was too inconsistent and as was our pass blocking, the odd one out on that team should have been isi, if we had a better qb and better o line, then perhaps you dont need to switch it up, but my feeling is that our offense dictated that there needed to be change and tedford stubbornly wouldnt go there. bigelow needed to get a lot more touches in order to give the offense at least some semblance of big play ability. it was just too easy because teams did not have to even stack the box to feel that they had a decent chance to stop isi, therefore allowing them to concentrate on either double teaming KA, which maynard would just throw into anyway or blitz and just sack maynard. a CJ and bigelow combination was the only way that we could have forced opposing defenses enough to respect our run enough so that they would have had to stack the box so that they couldnt double KA or stop jail break blitzing us, which we had almost no chance of stopping.

the thing is that tedford had a similar type of offense in 2007 when both longshore and riley struggled that year, but what saved that team was jahvid best's big play ability. could you imagine how anemic that offense would have been if they had isi and cj instead? in 2012 he basically had jahvid best 2.0 the only person with the ability to make the offense functional in bigelow and he sat him and its a big reason why SD is now coaching this football team.

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Forsett may or may not have been better than CJ and Isi, our line was MUCH better in 2007 (for the record I do think Forsett is better overall--though not as much as most people here think), but I still think Best and Bigelow should have had a lot more carries. Forsett was solid. Best was spectacular.

If Forsett had not set a record for carries by a Tedford running back he probably would have been more productive on a yards per carry basis too.

ayetee11;842128661 said:

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You got your opinion, I got mine.

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Of course it's just opinion. I (sadly) watch a lot of CFB and all 3 were blazing fast.

Did it seem like tedford only
Have isi and cj carries a lot more then Bigelow because he wanted to help them with there draft stock? In a way, sacrificed the running ability of one (Big) in order to help the others?

CalBearinLA;842128409 said:

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good enough that I believe dykes mentioned that he will not redshirt.

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IIRC - Sonny said he would play in part because he is so good, in part because our RB corps is so thin.

68great;842128831 said:

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IIRC - Sonny said he would play in part because he is so good, in part because our RB corps is so thin.

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If we play at a high tempo and can alternate Bigelow, Lasco and Muhammad, keeping them all fresh and fast for all 4 quarters it is going to be devastating to a worn out defense.

calumnus;842128868 said:

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If we play at a high tempo and can alternate Bigelow, Lasco and Muhammad, keeping them all fresh and fast for all 4 quarters it is going to be devastating to a worn out defense.

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Can you imagine if Bigelow and Muhammad were on the field at the same time? They would drive defensive coordinators crazy! :p

4th and goal ... another TD will put the game away ... opposing D dragging
Lucas Gingold (6', 240) right at them for the TD.
I liked watching his tenacious runs in spring ball, refuses to go down.
Only a deep reserve probably but he certainly showed signs of THE BEAST.

Cal Insider;842128463 said:

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to be honest.....I don't think Muhammad looked as fast in his highlights as Best or Bigelow. Also, if you see his 100 meters, he's not even close to the fastest in the first 40 yds or 60 yds, something that is way more important on the football field.

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I thought the same thing when I watched tape of track races and football games. Not nearly as quick as Best's hs highlights and he only won the 100 dash in track in the 2nd half of the race, whereas in football I would say the first 20 yards are the most important, not the last 20.

I loved Best. Saw him boogie in the Tennessee game and said, "Oh my god, he's going to be a Heisman candidate!

SouthBayPhenom;842128757 said:

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Of course it's just opinion. I (sadly) watch a lot of CFB and all 3 were blazing fast.

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I agree, but it seemed like Best created more separation more often.

concordtom;842128920 said:

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I thought the same thing when I watched tape of track races and football games. Not nearly as quick as Best's hs highlights and he only won the 100 dash in track in the 2nd half of the race, whereas in football I would say the first 20 yards are the most important, not the last 20.

I loved Best. Saw him boogie in the Tennessee game and said, "Oh my god, he's going to be a Heisman candidate!

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I'm not sure I'm buying this - see here for a video of Best's state championship run in 2007. Do you think he gets early separation? To me the track speeds are comparable. Best's HS highlights were certainly more impressive but against lower-level competition. Way too early to know how good Khalfani will do but we know he has an incredibly high ceiling and hope that Ingram can get the most out of him and that he's a good fit for the offense and program.

KM as a football player?

1400 yards, 6.7 yards a carry and 18 TD's on the ground and averaged over 20 yards a catch
Go check out the schedule his team played. Almost every opponent was a team ranked in the top 30 or so in the state of California. Not too many players put up those stats against that competition!!!!!!!!!!!

SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA;842128636 said:

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I'm excited about kick returns. Pick your poison. Teams won't be able to kick away from Bigelow anymore.

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word on the street is that Bigelow won't be KRing anymore. Of course I may be wrong but I think I read/heard something like that. I've been reading so much lately that I can't exactly find where I read it.

Given his speed, those numbers don't strike me as that remarkable in HS competition, even that of very high quality. Good, but hardly off the charts.

89Bear;842129384 said:

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KM as a football player?

1400 yards, 6.7 yards a carry and 18 TD's on the ground and averaged over 20 yards a catch
Go check out the schedule his team played. Almost every opponent was a team ranked in the top 30 or so in the state of California. Not too many players put up those stats against that competition!!!!!!!!!!!

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Agreed. The caliber of teams Salesian was playing compared to what Mohammad played against is night and day. Recall, everyone was excited about best but there was serious questions about how he would perform based on the types of guys he was playing against. It's fair to say that KM is a bit smaller than best, but he did out up decent numbers in a much tougher league.

The most important factor is that Khalfani has the potential to be a great player. Track is a sport which requires one to be highly disciplined. Without doubt, Khalfani will work hard. Whether he decides to choose football over track is up to him I guess. If I were in his shoes though, I would want to run track as well. But of course, I don't know how hard it is to do both.