Heard it from a couple sources, although official word has yet to trickle down. Developing situation.

Damn.

There will be more unfortunately.

NYCGOBEARS;842129411 said:

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There will be more unfortunately.

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This would not surprise me. It's one of those things that's probably going to get a little bit worse before it gets better.

Unfortunately, it looks like this is what Tedford's last few "great" recruiting classes are getting us: guys we recruited who aren't actually able to handle the academic load. The man was trying to save his job and sold academics out to do it.

BlueAndGold;842129412 said:

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It's one of those things that's probably going to get a little bit worse before it gets better.

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Agreed

Nam, thanks for the report.

It's difficult to get a football program back on track when your star players aren't able to play because of academics. Hopefully it isn't too bad. McCain is in for a big season. I was expecting 10 or more sacks.

Bears4Life 21;842129422 said:

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It's difficult to get a football program back on track when your star players aren't able to play because of academics. Hopefully it isn't too bad. McCain is in for a big season. I was expecting 10 or more sacks.

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not sure how you figured that. hes been in hot water all offseason. going to be lucky if he sees the field at all

sycasey;842129413 said:

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Unfortunately, it looks like this is what Tedford's last few "great" recruiting classes are getting us: guys we recruited who aren't actually able to handle the academic load. The man was trying to save his job and sold academics out to do it.

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how did they manage to stay eligible up to now?

At least he still has all of summer to make things right?

sycasey;842129413 said:

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Unfortunately, it looks like this is what Tedford's last few "great" recruiting classes are getting us: guys we recruited who aren't actually able to handle the academic load. The man was trying to save his job and sold academics out to do it.

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Yeah just look at Maynard. That clown passed zero units and some how regained his elgibility. If the only reason Tedford was fired was Maynard I would be okay with that.

We lost Whiteside too, right? Sorry for being OT, but is he gone gone, or can he still rejoin the team if he can get his grades up?

pingpong2;842129429 said:

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We lost Whiteside too, right? Sorry for being OT, but is he gone gone, or can he still rejoin the team if he can get his grades up?

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I was just gonna chime in about Whiteside and you beat me to it...what is up with him?...I thought he was trying to make it back but once your gone, it's hard to get back. I'm not surprised about McCain though I thought he might be different but some of our learned sources here have said the North Carolina recruits didn't give a crap about academics and were barely trying. I'm not including Gabe King since he really did the Oregon thing and was going to sign with Cal regardless of what the NC crowd did...or at least that is my recollection of the matter...Obviously JT was missing in action the last year or two so I'm sure there was kind of an organized chaos going on around here. So sad !!!!

Lets not group Gabe King in with the others in the "North Carolina" group. From what I heard, Gabe really works his butt off. Wants to graduate with a prestigious degree; hence why he's sticking at Cal even though he isnt seeing that much of the playing field.

sycasey;842129413 said:

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Unfortunately, it looks like this is what Tedford's last few "great" recruiting classes are getting us: guys we recruited who aren't actually able to handle the academic load. The man was trying to save his job and sold academics out to do it.

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JT failed on the field also.

Embarrassing record and losses
+ academic embarrassment and losses
= multi-million dollar walk-away

JT lost total interest in his job and had the allure of walking away (getting "fired") as a very wealthy guy.

sycasey;842129413 said:

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Unfortunately, it looks like this is what Tedford's last few "great" recruiting classes are getting us: guys we recruited who aren't actually able to handle the academic load. The man was trying to save his job and sold academics out to do it.

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You sound like an Obama voter blaming Bush - Mccain was academically eligible under Tedford, this past semester was entiely under Dykes - But this is not a Dykes or Tedford issues, it is a Chris McCain issue. But blowing classes this last semester has NOTHING to do with Tedford - McCain was eligible for three years somehow under Tedford, so he did demonstrate an ability to handle the academic load. He battled injury - for the average person on this board to knock kids who have to endure surgery apart from family support and keep up their grades at Cal while the rehab their way back to elite D-1 performance status is ridiculous, we have no idea what that world is like. Just saying

bearblast;842129442 said:

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You sound like an Obama voter blaming Bush

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Or maybe a republican blaming everything Bush screwed up on Clinton or blaming Obama for things Bush started. :p

We won't include those delusional types who think Bush didn't screw up at all.

Cal Panda Bear;842129432 said:

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Lets not group Gabe King in with the others in the "North Carolina" group. From what I heard, Gabe really works his butt off. Wants to graduate with a prestigious degree; hence why he's sticking at Cal even though he isnt seeing that much of the playing field.

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If you are replying to me Panda, I clearly said "I'm not including Gabe King in with this group"

bearblast;842129442 said:

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You sound like an Obama voter blaming Bush -

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Or like a beltway Republican defending the Obama NSA.

A political slapfight is exactly what this thread needed!

TheScientist;842129459 said:

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A political slapfight is exactly what this thread needed!

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F the politics right now ...

going4roses;842129461 said:

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F the politics right now ...

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+1 Let's concentrate on our football team. Plenty of issues and concerns there to keep us bickering.

sycasey;842129413 said:

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Unfortunately, it looks like this is what Tedford's last few "great" recruiting classes are getting us: guys we recruited who aren't actually able to handle the academic load. The man was trying to save his job and sold academics out to do it.

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Nonsense. All was well. I read it here, over and over, and the non-believers have been purged!

Greeks and Golf is all we need!

( and hip hop, too! )

I agree that Tedford and his staff failed to create and maintain a culture of accountability these past few years. But that being said, the primary responsibility for McCain's academic failings lie with McCain. He failed himself and the team. Hopefully he can pull it together.

Yes, Tedford was truly awful off and on the field (ah yes - the brilliant game management in the Ohio State game) - remarkable how many folks on this board defended him regardless.

I digress, taboo to discuss the man anymore. Move on!!

At least it's someone switching positions

Cal_Fan2;842129444 said:

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If you are replying to me Panda, I clearly said "I'm not including Gabe King in with this group"

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Im not arguing w/you. Actually agreeing with you. Sorry shouldve made that clear

bearblast;842129442 said:

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You sound like an Obama voter blaming Bush - Mccain was academically eligible under Tedford, this past semester was entiely under Dykes - But this is not a Dykes or Tedford issues, it is a Chris McCain issue. But blowing classes this last semester has NOTHING to do with Tedford - McCain was eligible for three years somehow under Tedford, so he did demonstrate an ability to handle the academic load. He battled injury - for the average person on this board to knock kids who have to endure surgery apart from family support and keep up their grades at Cal while the rehab their way back to elite D-1 performance status is ridiculous, we have no idea what that world is like. Just saying

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I think you are failing to factor in that Dykes probably has a higher standard than Tedford. So while McC couldve remained on the team w/Tedford, his low gpa probably doesnt fly with Dykes.

He also couldve seriously tanked this past semester.

youd think being injured would give someone a little more time to work on their studies, unless its a brain injury.

...? how will this effect depth ... is barton going to get in there ? anyone know how his knee is? i know he got banged up in spring game ...

that sucks... mc cain tighten up man get your mind right ... reach out to someone anyone hope you get it together all around

It will all work out.

bearblast;842129442 said:

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You sound like an Obama voter blaming Bush - Mccain was academically eligible under Tedford, this past semester was entiely under Dykes - But this is not a Dykes or Tedford issues, it is a Chris McCain issue. But blowing classes this last semester has NOTHING to do with Tedford - McCain was eligible for three years somehow under Tedford, so he did demonstrate an ability to handle the academic load. He battled injury - for the average person on this board to knock kids who have to endure surgery apart from family support and keep up their grades at Cal while the rehab their way back to elite D-1 performance status is ridiculous, we have no idea what that world is like. Just saying

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I think part of the point here is that Tedford started running a much looser ship near the end of his time. Perhaps McCain stayed "eligible" last year, but as Dykes has come in he's finding these guys were doing worse than anyone thought and Tedford was letting it slide. He may well be cleaning up Tedford's mess here (and I suspect this is the case), much as, yes, Obama inherited Bush's mess and had to do some unpopular and short-term damaging things to try cleaning it up (which is not an excuse for every mistake Obama has made, but for the deficits run up in his term, yes it is).

I should also note here that I have no real inside information as to how Tedford was running things last year -- this is pure speculation on my part, based on what we do know.

How are the JC transfers at DE looking?

No surprise here, I heard about this a week or so ago, sucks for this young man. Hope things work out for him.