6bear6;842130563 said:

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We get it Cal Va. You don't like Tedford.

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NO doubt about it ... he missed all the throws ... :axe

:gobears:

A lot of people are referring to Tedford as if the entirety of his time here was the same. It was not. Though 2009, I believe, we were very good on the academic side of things. Academics were a priority. I vaguely recall the story about the DB who needed one class to graduate who was allowed to miss football in order to attend the class even though it negatively impacted the football team (he had a year of eligibility left and could have taken the class the next year). The later Tedford years were obviously disgusting.

tequila4kapp;842130572 said:

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A lot of people are referring to Tedford as if the entirety of his time here was the same. It was not. Though 2009, I believe, we were very good on the academic side of things. Academics were a priority. I vaguely recall the story about the DB who needed one class to graduate who was allowed to miss football in order to attend the class even though it negatively impacted the football team (he had a year of eligibility left and could have taken the class the next year). The later Tedford years were obviously disgusting.

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Basically this. Tedford is the classic "he had it and then he lost it" guy.

(Marcus Ezeff was the DB in question, I think.)

SonOfCalVa;842130435 said:

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There are a ton of sources for you to check out to find the answers - they're there.
And, whatever "standard" Tedford may have had, he failed, and because he failed, the team failed academically and athletically.

But, what the hell, he walked away with more mega-millions on top of the mega-millions he got while coaching.

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The answers are where? I am not trying to be difficult, but I keep asking for a source for the assertion that Dykes has a higher standard than Tedford and for information about the differences, and no one has provided a link or source.

Was there a direct correlation to the rise of To$h?

GoldenBearofCalifornia;842130596 said:

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The answers are where? I am not trying to be difficult, but I keep asking for a source for the assertion that Dykes has a higher standard than Tedford and for information about the differences, and no one has provided a link or source.

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google or bing "Sonny Dykes" academics .... a lot of links but the stories are there about Dykes' goals and expectations ... Tedford is, at best, irrelevant.
Here's one story, which is mainly about Takk but it's good background.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/22036617/cals-dykes-works-to-fix-apr-woes-wont-give-up-on-closecall-recruit

sycasey;842130594 said:

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Basically this. Tedford is the classic "he had it and then he lost it" guy.

(Marcus Ezeff was the DB in question, I think.)

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JT would make a great subject for an old MTV "Behind the Music" style retrospective.

Call it "Behind the Play Calling".

Young up-and-coming OC comes in and works magic with his team.
Everyone buys into his no-nonsense style of coaching - even sitting future greats Aaron Rodgers and Marshawn Lynch for too many TO's.
Team has high per game scoring offense and good academics.
Bowl games abound.
He can do no wrong -- "in Tedford we Trust".

Then when he makes it big time, he loses his way.
He goes for the blockbuster recruits.
Stops enforcing his "no turnover" policies.
Academics slide.
Bowl games disappear.
:cry:

68great;842130636 said:

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JT would make a great subject for an old MTV "Behind the Music" style retrospective.

Call it "Behind the Play Calling".

Young up-and-coming OC comes in and works magic with his team.
Everyone buys into his no-nonsense style of coaching - even sitting future greats Aaron Rodgers and Marshawn Lynch for too many TO's.
Team has high per game scoring offense and good academics.
Bowl games abound.
He can do no wrong -- "in Tedford we Trust".

Then when he makes it big time, he loses his way.
He goes for the blockbuster recruits.
Stops enforcing his "no turnover" policies.
Academics slide.
Bowl games disappear.
:cry:

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a video of a horserace would do it also.
Long shot off to an unbelievable start, running easy, front of the pack, almost takes lead then ... stumbles, and again ... starts wandering ... looking for something ... finishes close to last
so, what difference did the great start do?

ESPN_Pac12blog ‏@ESPN_Pac12blog 1h

Cal coach Sonny Dykes just told me that DE/OLB Chris McCain is working his way back into good academic graces. Very good news for defense.

bear945;842142641 said:

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ESPN_Pac12blog ‏@ESPN_Pac12blog 1h

Cal coach Sonny Dykes just told me that DE/OLB Chris McCain is working his way back into good academic graces. Very good news for defense.

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SCARLETT and MCCAIN two blue chip DE bookends, can I get a hell yes???

they will improve our Dline, bet on it

Great news. McCain is so easy to root for.

Davidson;842142642 said:

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SCARLETT and MCCAIN two blue chip DE bookends, can I get a hell yes???

they will improve our Dline, bet on it

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Quote:

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"Chris McCain is working his way back into good academic graces"

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But does that mean he is eligible for this year?

"working his way back" can be interpreted different ways

buster99;842142650 said:

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But does that mean he is eligible for this year?

"working his way back" can be interpreted different ways

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You're right buster99, but the trend is clearly up!

jyamada;842129443 said:

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Or maybe a republican blaming everything Bush screwed up on Clinton or blaming Obama for things Bush started. :p

We won't include those delusional types who think Bush didn't screw up at all.

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...are you saying it's Holmoe's fault McCain is suspended? Or Dykes fault if he happened to vote Republican (I have no idea about his politics, so PLEASE don't insinuate)? Or is it Tedford's fault because he's the 1%?

Has McCain been taking part in summer workouts?

^ yes

There is a god!

SonOfCalVa;842129441 said:

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JT failed on the field also.

Embarrassing record and losses
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You haven't been a Cal fan long if you say this without qualifications

Sounds like McCain is in a similar situation as Maynard was last summer.

6bear6;842130563 said:

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We get it Cal Va. You don't like Tedford.

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Seriously, I think Tedford might've personally killed CalVa's dog or something.

StillNoStanfurdium;842142686 said:

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Seriously, I think Tedford might've personally killed CalVa's dog or something.

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or like tedford broke up with him and he can't let it go

StillNoStanfurdium;842142686 said:

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Seriously, I think Tedford might've personally killed CalVa's dog or something.

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Maybe JT didn't kill CalVa's dog; but he almost managed to kill my Bears!

Treggs' public tweet so I'll post here, what do you guys think this means:

Quote:

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Trigga ‏@BryceTreggs 10h: No more skinny. He was a phony anyway.

Jared Goff ‏@JaredGoff16 10h: @BryceTreggs I TOLD YOU!

Trigga ‏@BryceTreggs 10h: @JaredGoff16 it's so disappointing

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Personally I don't think it's in reference to McCain, but I guess you never know...

it's a reference to skinny pete from BB :acclaim:

It'd be very good if he makes it back eventually, but it'd make my day if he becomes eligible for this season. Really like seeing him play.

BoaltBear;842142692 said:

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Treggs' public tweet so I'll post here, what do you guys think this means:



Personally I don't think it's in reference to McCain, but I guess you never know...

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anyone who's been following Treggs' tweets knows he has more class than the tweet negatively about a teammate.


move along!

BobbyGBear;842142648 said:

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Great news. McCain is so easy to root for.

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Watching him on the field he is.

But he does have a reputation for being a little soft (getting injured with minor injuries so often), I didn't like how he was voicing some displeasure at the coaching change, and the academic thing. I'd like to see all that change and glad that he's changing it already.

GoldenBearofCalifornia;842130048 said:

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What support do you have for the statement that Dykes has a higher standard than Tedford? I am not saying you are wrong, but I am curious about what your source of info is. Can you clarify the differences in the standard under Dykes compared to the standard under Tedford?

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I think the "standard" that is being discussed here is really the character of the student athlete being recruited. The current coaching staff is recruiting "student athletes" and not "4 stars" or "5 stars" per se. They want kids who want a Cal degree and to play some football.
I am sure that many of the acacdemic requirements/expectations that Tedford had for the players are the same that Dykes has. tedford appeared to get lost in enforcing his expectations and Dykes cannot.
Go Bears!!!

Unfortunately bush pissed in the tent ;-}

I don't get all the McCain hate. He's shown that he cares about winning, and isn't afraid to wear his emotions on his sleeve when he's out on the field. Some may call him soft because it seems he tends to get hurt a lot, but the other way to look at it is that he's still playing hurt, which to me is the opposite of soft. IIRC even Marshawn was hampered throughout his time here with ankle injuries, but I don't think anyone would say that he's soft.

bear945;842142641 said:

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ESPN_Pac12blog ‏@ESPN_Pac12blog 1h

Cal coach Sonny Dykes just told me that DE/OLB Chris McCain is working his way back into good academic graces. Very good news for defense.

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McCain is also standing out in the summer workouts. Check out some of Scott Salwasser's (Asst S&C Coach) tweets this week:

22 Jul
Scott Salwasser @CalCoachSal: Heavy clean & squat Mon and @BScarlett17 [COLOR="Red"]McCain[/COLOR] & Nickerson were #Warriors with the iron in their hands today #CanWeHitSomebodyAlready?

24 Jul
Scott Salwasser @CalCoachSal: #HumpDaaaay Lasco Rodgers & [COLOR="red"]McCain[/COLOR] overcame the effects of yesterday's #HardestRuninCFB to dominate Rack 3 this morning #BearsEatIron

rush the field;842142747 said:

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McCain is also standing out in the summer workouts. Check out some of Scott Salwasser's (Asst S&C Coach) tweets this week:

22 Jul
Scott Salwasser @CalCoachSal: Heavy clean & squat Mon and @BScarlett17 [COLOR="Red"]McCain[/COLOR] & Nickerson were #Warriors with the iron in their hands today #CanWeHitSomebodyAlready?

24 Jul
Scott Salwasser @CalCoachSal: #HumpDaaaay Lasco Rodgers & [COLOR="red"]McCain[/COLOR] overcame the effects of yesterday's #HardestRuninCFB to dominate Rack 3 this morning #BearsEatIron

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Good on McCain, working his butt off in the classroom and weight room so he can stay and play.
Also nice to hear about Scarlett, Nickerson, Lasco and Rodgers.
Sounds like they've healed ... can't wait to watch Rodger's soft hand take in a pass then explosive YAC.

KoreAmBear;842142708 said:

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Watching him on the field he is.

But he does have a reputation for being a little soft (getting injured with minor injuries so often), I didn't like how he was voicing some displeasure at the coaching change, and the academic thing. I'd like to see all that change and glad that he's changing it already.

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Anyone who thinks he is soft is a fool. He gets dinged up because he is a warrior who always plays 100%. Even when he's undersized, he is fearless. He may have some attitude issues off the field, but if everyone on our team had McCain's heart, we would have won a lot more games the last two seasons.

grandmastapoop;842142764 said:

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Anyone who thinks he is soft is a fool. He gets dinged up because he is a warrior who always plays 100%. Even when he's undersized, he is fearless. He may have some attitude issues off the field, but if everyone on our team had McCain's heart, we would have won a lot more games the last two seasons.

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But we needed healthy bodies to go with that heart - that is what was missing too often.

Masau80;842142795 said:

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But we needed healthy bodies to go with that heart - that is what was missing too often.

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Ok. And? What does that have to do with whether McCain is soft or not? He got dinged up because he is a warrior and then played through that pain/those injuries. He's not soft.