I spent those years stationed overseas and rarely got to see any games (pre-streaming days), cyberbears.org was my sole source of Cal football. Thank you all.

Go Bears!

Nick

Cal8285;842168149 said:

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..When CJay wasn't so SiniCal, and indeed, had support for the Golden Oski for Most Optimistic CyberBear. Did CJay win once? If so, seems hard to believe. KoreAmBear should have won every year, and indeed, KoreAmBear should have been disqualified from winning and the award renamed the KoreAmBear MOC award and given to whoever was the #2 MOC. Yes, indeed, those were the days.

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i beg a shush 'cause you (and OaktownB) discourse could Relentless nibble any poster to tears, me especially.

MostOptimisticCyber i won the first year by a very slim margin, immediately enlisting KAB to be MOC co-owner [whereupon from day one he did *all* the heavy lifting]. But not on merit, no sir, but because i lobbied shamelessly, even begging guests from other schools to weigh in on my behalf.
[true confessions R us]

KAB's permabear MOC award hangs still, ummm (kind of a stretch) in BlueBl**ds infamous cave.

personal ps: so sorry about your friend passing. waaay too much of that going on these days /
thinking of you too GldnBear71.

dinner bell rang, gotta run#

FiatSlug;842168099 said:

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Indeed, that was some classic writing, worthy of Hall of Fame status.

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What about that kid "will" who was trolling us by trying to gain sympathy -- after trash talking us to death -- that he had some disease which made him a foot amputee? Anyone recall that?

KoreAmBear;842168745 said:

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What about that kid "will" who was trolling us by trying to gain sympathy -- after trash talking us to death -- that he had some disease which made him a foot amputee? Anyone recall that?

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once upon a time he emailed a snapshot of his ailment, coincidentally linked back to his brother. within a week he'd moved on.

KoreAmBear;842168745 said:

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What about that kid "will" who was trolling us by trying to gain sympathy -- after trash talking us to death -- that he had some disease which made him a foot amputee? Anyone recall that?

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Didn't he also go ballistic when he "claimed" someone uncovered his IP address and threatened him. Then truth started coming out about being unemployed, etc. etc. and now was living in fear.

Ahhh the good ole days

Big C_Cal;842168314 said:

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I remember the Stanfurd people that would come here, Stanford Observer and Cajun Lurker, each had their own personalities. When I first started posting (2000?), under a different handle, I took it upon myself one day to eviscerate Stanfurdites everywhere and Stanford Observer got all offended. Even David Dempster thought I came on a little too strong, so I had to explain myself to him...

I sorta miss PowRipp: He was something, as was the BlueBloodBear of that era. What ever happened to the other frequent posters, such as Ramtor? It seems as though some have simply changed their handles.

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Stanford Observer is a good dude (like Gary T) though.

HairOfTheBear;842168815 said:

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Didn't he also go ballistic when he "claimed" someone uncovered his IP address and threatened him. Then truth started coming out about being unemployed, etc. etc. and now was living in fear.

Ahhh the good ole days

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.. i remember something about that incident too HotB.

see, once upon a time (before Y2K even) there was a novice cybears volunteer, let's call him Sorcerer's Apprentice. SA was tasked soley with the heartbreaking necessity of weekly deleting scads of the oldest posts from Greybear(d)'s hosting server, content thereafter lost forever into the great bit bucket at the end of the internet,, sniff. BUT said SA couldn't handle the great powers conferred, and innocently enough peeked, just a few times we swear, at auxillary files.

then came a day when <redacted> flame war participant sought to buttress an argument with support from another handle, remarkably similar in style. SA verified, yepper, those two were the same guy. rather than take advantage, SA "just" ventured a friendly word back to said flamer, paraphrased: naughty-naughty. righteous indigation flew. chastened SA self-retired himself, and we all lived cy-happily ever after.

that's my story and i'm a stick'n to it#

BearsWiin;842167780 said:

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"You alumni, you are to blame!/This is football, not a game!"

PowerTripp had fun writing The Ravin'. Good times, good times...

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.. of Ravin', including the amazing hidden in plain sight part?

KoreAmBear;842168820 said:

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Stanford Observer is a good dude (like Gary T) though.

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What Stanford Observer was like in person, I do not know, but as a poster, comparing him to Gary T is an insult to Gary T.

Stanford Observer WAS, however, a sneaky smart SOB as an opposition poster. He knew you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, he was so darned NICE and SWEET here while pursuing his pro-Stanford agenda, Cal fans would think, awww, he's a good dude, and then not be so bothered with all his pro-Stanford BS.

He LOVED to lie with statistics, he lied with statistics more than anyone in the history of CyberBears. If he had a pro-Stanford point he wanted to "prove," he could come up with statistics to "prove" it, not matter how much it was BS. Early on, I'd point out the flaws in his statistical arguments right away, but eventually, I didn't want to seem too combative, I'd hope that Oaktown or someone else would do that, so I would only do it after waiting a sufficient period of time for someone else.

Not to call him out, but it was CJay (ok, I'm calling him out) who (perhaps inadvertently) helped prove to me my suspicions about SO. On a Stanford board, SO, in order to prove a point about what morons Cal fans are, lied about an argument that I made. He flat out lied about my position on a Stanford related issue in order to make Cal fans look idiotic. Had that indeed been my position, it would have been idiotic, but it was not (and even were I an idiot, I'm not sure it is fair to make me a representative of Cal fans).

After CJay alerted me to my name being taken in vain on another board, I went over to the dark side to point out the lie, and SO did a little dance to avoid further lying while not really changing his position and saying I was delusional. Interesting. A later SO post on CyberBears caused the issue to spill over to CyberBears, where SO issued your basic non-apology apology -- "I did nothing wrong, but I apologize if I offended you with my actions that really should have been non-offensive." I.e., the favorite apology of public figures. The funny thing was that he didn't offend me, he made me happy, he proved what a snake in the grass he really was, that his sweetness over here was what I always thought, just in order to give him more credibility with his pro-Stanford positions, and he was willing to lie about what was posted in CyberBears in order to paint us Cal fans with a broad brush as morons over on the Stanford board. What a great dude. After that, CyberBears overall didn't treat him with quite the same kid gloves.

Again, maybe in person he is a good dude (I've heard from people who have worked with him or went to law school at Boalt with him that he's a good dude, and I've heard from others that he's a jerk, but I'm in no position to judge). As a poster, however, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing, a dirty, rotten, sneaky furd.

Aside from Gary T, my favorite Stanford poster probably was cajunlurker. Some CyberBears didn't like how stridently pro-Stanford he could be at times, but he was reasonable about what he said, and he was only a little jerky at times (after all, he went to Stanford, he couldn't help it). I would enjoy sparring with him. Even if I disagreed with him I didn't feel like he engaged in intellectual dishonesty (like SO's constant lying with statistics), and I didn't feel like he was hiding his true feelings in order to have more credibility with the CyberBears. He wasn't as nice and friendly as Gary T, but compared to Stanford Observer, a breath of fresh air.

Cal8285;842169065 said:

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What Stanford Observer was like in person, I do not know, but as a poster, comparing him to Gary T is an insult to Gary T.

Stanford Observer WAS, however, a sneaky smart SOB as an opposition poster. He knew you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, he was so darned NICE and SWEET here while pursuing his pro-Stanford agenda, Cal fans would think, awww, he's a good dude, and then not be so bothered with all his pro-Stanford BS.

He LOVED to lie with statistics, he lied with statistics more than anyone in the history of CyberBears. If he had a pro-Stanford point he wanted to "prove," he could come up with statistics to "prove" it, not matter how much it was BS. Early on, I'd point out the flaws in his statistical arguments right away, but eventually, I didn't want to seem too combative, I'd hope that Oaktown or someone else would do that, so I would only do it after waiting a sufficient period of time for someone else.

Not to call him out, but it was CJay (ok, I'm calling him out) who (perhaps inadvertently) helped prove to me my suspicions about SO. On a Stanford board, SO, in order to prove a point about what morons Cal fans are, lied about an argument that I made. He flat out lied about my position on a Stanford related issue in order to make Cal fans look idiotic. Had that indeed been my position, it would have been idiotic, but it was not (and even were I an idiot, I'm not sure it is fair to make me a representative of Cal fans).

After CJay alerted me to my name being taken in vain on another board, I went over to the dark side to point out the lie, and SO did a little dance to avoid further lying while not really changing his position and saying I was delusional. Interesting. A later SO post on CyberBears caused the issue to spill over to CyberBears, where SO issued your basic non-apology apology -- "I did nothing wrong, but I apologize if I offended you with my actions that really should have been non-offensive." I.e., the favorite apology of public figures. The funny thing was that he didn't offend me, he made me happy, he proved what a snake in the grass he really was, that his sweetness over here was what I always thought, just in order to give him more credibility with his pro-Stanford positions, and he was willing to lie about what was posted in CyberBears in order to paint us Cal fans with a broad brush as morons over on the Stanford board. What a great dude. After that, CyberBears overall didn't treat him with quite the same kid gloves.

Again, maybe in person he is a good dude (I've heard from people who have worked with him or went to law school at Boalt with him that he's a good dude, and I've heard from others that he's a jerk, but I'm in no position to judge). As a poster, however, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing, a dirty, rotten, sneaky furd.

Aside from Gary T, my favorite Stanford poster probably was cajunlurker. Some CyberBears didn't like how stridently pro-Stanford he could be at times, but he was reasonable about what he said, and he was only a little jerky at times (after all, he went to Stanford, he couldn't help it). I would enjoy sparring with him. Even if I disagreed with him I didn't feel like he engaged in intellectual dishonesty (like SO's constant lying with statistics), and I didn't feel like he was hiding his true feelings in order to have more credibility with the CyberBears. He wasn't as nice and friendly as Gary T, but compared to Stanford Observer, a breath of fresh air.

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Ah I didn't realize how passive-aggressive he may have been. I didn't deal with him too much so I guess I only saw the "nice" side of the equation. Yes Gary T is very nice to us, but I wonder if he is treated like a pariah to those Stanford fans who will always be bitter about The Play. AlbanyCardinals does not seem to be too bad, btw. Remember I used to do those polls (Golden Oskies) and had our favorite outside poster? I forget who routinely won (we had the awards for a couple of years). Does anyone have the record on that?

KoreAmBear;842169070 said:

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Ah I didn't realize how passive-aggressive he may have been. I didn't deal with him too much so I guess I only saw the "nice" side of the equation. Yes Gary T is very nice to us, but I wonder if he is treated like a pariah to those Stanford fans who will always be bitter about The Play. AlbanyCardinals does not seem to be too bad, btw. Remember I used to do those polls (Golden Oskies) and had our favorite outside poster? I forget who routinely won (we had the awards for a couple of years). Does anyone have the record on that?

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Pretty sure Stanford Observer did win the first one.

I may be getting my Oregon handles confused, but there was a Duck fan who at least second time around got a lot of votes, either came in second or first, was it LADuck, or a different Duck? It seemed a little unfair, because the poster I'm thinking of claimed to be an Oregon fan first, but a Cal fan second, so except in Cal-Oregon battles, he was squarely on our side. Thus, he was not quite as "outside" as other "outside" posters. I voted for him anyway.

Cal8285;842169065 said:

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What Stanf*rd Observer was like in person, I do not know, but as a poster, comparing him to Gary T is an insult to Gary T.

<nothing much going on here, hey hey>

Aside from Gary T, my favorite Stanf*rd poster probably was cajunlurker. Some CyberBears didn't like how stridently pro-Stanf*rd he could be at times, but he was reasonable about what he said, and he was only a little jerky at times (after all, he went to Stanf*rd, he couldn't help it). I would enjoy sparring with him...

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can't remember if the original cajun lurker crossed over to bearinsiders, but i've got a vague recollection he switched to handle "stanf*rd debate" at the previous joint. not helpful to maintaining contact was bricking my no-backups desktop some years ago.. twice.

without question i did hear that katrina and followon troubles were nearly fatal to his extended family business.

re SO, sorry, all the advanced thinking goes right over my simple mind, clueless i guess. gave him a ride in my car once after lunch on the farm. very personable guy, um, in person.

where was my 3 letter organization when i desperately needed 'em, huh? huh?!

Not Creole Card? That guy was different. A Stanford guy who wrote in urban black gangsta patois and claimed to drive an Escalade convertible. I accused him once of being a white guy from Orinda who was the farm's first hip hop studies major.

GB54;842169122 said:

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Not Creole Card? That guy was different. A Stanf*rd guy who wrote in urban black gangsta patois and claimed to drive an Escalade convertible. I accused him once of being a white guy from Orinda who was the farm's first hip hop studies major.

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where EOM was old-timey speak for End Of Message.

During one BB season, maybe in 2000 or 2001, can't remember, a Stanford med school grad student (IIRC) trolled the board masking as a Cal student with a meme that we should aspire to the NIT BB tournament (I believe we won it the previous season) instead of the NCAA because it was more suited to our mediocre (according to this troll) team. Blueblood spotted this obvious mockery with the first post and pursued an internet address identification investigation that revealed the troll to be a Stanford med student and an intern in a Chicago hospital. Blueblood threatened to expose the guy (yes, it was a guy) to his internship hospital for using an institutional internet connection for non institution related purposes unless he left the site immediately and deleted his connection. The troll then complained to Greybear that he was being harassed by a Cyberbears site employee, and threatened to litigate the site unless it stopped. Greybear responded that Blueblood was not a site employee, and then invited the Stanford troll to leave because it was obvious his only intent was to harass Cal correspondents. The troll left, after copying the entire Cyberbears.org register of members into his final post, labeling them his detractors.

Incidents like that one made me doubt that ten years later Blueblood was the same Blueblood. He really shined those few days, whole board was behind him and loved every minute of it. But, who knows.

Number 031343;842169139 said:

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During one BB season.. The troll left, after copying the entire Cyberbears.org register of members into his final post, labeling them his detractors.

Incidents like that one made me doubt that ten years later Blueblood was the same Blueblood. He really shined those few days, whole board was behind him and loved every minute of it. But, who knows.

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thanks 031342, fascinating story.

after not quite decades trying and failing to get inside Blue's head, intending (i swear) to be his friend, finally i employed my one special talent.. and gave up.

the incident you describe, darn, i've got no memory of that whatsoever. and can hardly imagine how you did so w/o inside the beltway knowledge.

ah well, and so it goes.

thanks again number guy.

Cal8285;842169065 said:

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What Stanford Observer was like in person, I do not know, but as a poster, comparing him to Gary T is an insult to Gary T.

Stanford Observer WAS, however, a sneaky smart SOB as an opposition poster. He knew you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, he was so darned NICE and SWEET here while pursuing his pro-Stanford agenda, Cal fans would think, awww, he's a good dude, and then not be so bothered with all his pro-Stanford BS.

He LOVED to lie with statistics, he lied with statistics more than anyone in the history of CyberBears. If he had a pro-Stanford point he wanted to "prove," he could come up with statistics to "prove" it, not matter how much it was BS. Early on, I'd point out the flaws in his statistical arguments right away, but eventually, I didn't want to seem too combative, I'd hope that Oaktown or someone else would do that, so I would only do it after waiting a sufficient period of time for someone else.

Not to call him out, but it was CJay (ok, I'm calling him out) who (perhaps inadvertently) helped prove to me my suspicions about SO. On a Stanford board, SO, in order to prove a point about what morons Cal fans are, lied about an argument that I made. He flat out lied about my position on a Stanford related issue in order to make Cal fans look idiotic. Had that indeed been my position, it would have been idiotic, but it was not (and even were I an idiot, I'm not sure it is fair to make me a representative of Cal fans).

After CJay alerted me to my name being taken in vain on another board, I went over to the dark side to point out the lie, and SO did a little dance to avoid further lying while not really changing his position and saying I was delusional. Interesting. A later SO post on CyberBears caused the issue to spill over to CyberBears, where SO issued your basic non-apology apology -- "I did nothing wrong, but I apologize if I offended you with my actions that really should have been non-offensive." I.e., the favorite apology of public figures. The funny thing was that he didn't offend me, he made me happy, he proved what a snake in the grass he really was, that his sweetness over here was what I always thought, just in order to give him more credibility with his pro-Stanford positions, and he was willing to lie about what was posted in CyberBears in order to paint us Cal fans with a broad brush as morons over on the Stanford board. What a great dude. After that, CyberBears overall didn't treat him with quite the same kid gloves.

Again, maybe in person he is a good dude (I've heard from people who have worked with him or went to law school at Boalt with him that he's a good dude, and I've heard from others that he's a jerk, but I'm in no position to judge). As a poster, however, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing, a dirty, rotten, sneaky furd.

Aside from Gary T, my favorite Stanford poster probably was cajunlurker. Some CyberBears didn't like how stridently pro-Stanford he could be at times, but he was reasonable about what he said, and he was only a little jerky at times (after all, he went to Stanford, he couldn't help it). I would enjoy sparring with him. Even if I disagreed with him I didn't feel like he engaged in intellectual dishonesty (like SO's constant lying with statistics), and I didn't feel like he was hiding his true feelings in order to have more credibility with the CyberBears. He wasn't as nice and friendly as Gary T, but compared to Stanford Observer, a breath of fresh air.

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I remember that. Snake.

I could respect posters like Bete Rouge/Redrum and Garvin. They were articulate assholes, but you knew exactly where they stood.

SiniCal;842168865 said:

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.. of Ravin', including the amazing hidden in plain sight part?

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It was archived in the classic posts section of the old site for a while. I think I may have saved the written notes in a file somewhere. IIRC, one of the reasons I wrote it at all was because he was accusing you of being me, and I wanted one to have one final playful tweak while outing myself (I believe TaxBear figured out the code first). Cadence and internal rhyme scheme weren't easy.

I'm also sad that my "Roving Bandit Theory and the Pillaging of Troy" wasn't saved somewhere. Applying Mancur Olsen's theories of political and economic development to how the rest of the conference should collude to keep Paul Hackett at USC, and outlining potential solutions to the collective action problem posed, was one of the more creative things I've ever written. It was linked to several boards for discussion, including USC's, and while most Trojan posters argued vehemently that Hackett wouldn't last even if he won 6-7 games a year, NOBODY questioned my assumption that USC couldn't win a conference game without the opponent letting them. For some reason, that always amused me most.

SiniCal;842169182 said:

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thanks 031342, fascinating story.

after not quite decades trying and failing to get inside Blue's head, intending (i swear) to be his friend, finally i employed my one special talent.. and gave up.

the incident you describe, darn, i've got no memory of that whatsoever. and can hardly imagine how you did so w/o inside the beltway knowledge.

ah well, and so it goes.

thanks again number guy.

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I had been following the site for less than a year at the time. I Believe this happened shortly before the "Will with the permanently injured leg" drama mentioned above, in which Blueblood played another leading role. It was mention of that event that triggered the memory.

Other memories of those years include a wonderful monolog in which a Cal poster did a send up on the British naval battle against the Spanish Armada using the issue of the Stanford rugby team's refusal to play Cal because they might be injured as the plot line. In the parody, Stanford, as a kind of weak kneed Lord Nelson, refuses to fight the Armada (Cal) and asks instead for reparations to be demanded of his country. It became a classic post for a time.

There was also an extremely astute dissection of the definition of free speech in the context of the FSM, by a Cal alumni who was (is) an attorney. I believe that one became a classic for a time as well.

We have some great wits out there.

SiniCal;842168865 said:

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.. of Ravin', including the amazing hidden in plain sight part?

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With thanks to CeeJ for digging up this artifact of an earlier, simpler time:

The Ravin' by Edgar Alan PowerTripp

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered weak and weary
Over many a quaint and curious posting of Golden Bear lore,
While I nodded, gently coasting, suddenly there came a posting
As of some one rudely posting, posting at my cyber door.
"'Tis some newbie," I muttered, "posting at my cyBer door,
Only this and nothing more."

Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak September
My Bears had been dismembered and it seemed that they would win no more.
Eagerly I wished the morrow; vainly I had sought to borrow
Anything to ease the sorrow, sorrow for the golden gore
That now passed for Cal football, whosE watching had become a chore.
Yet not, I hoped, for evermore.

When through the net they came unbidden, these postings that were poorly written
Chilled me, filled me with distasteful bile never felt before,
So that now, to still the beating of my heart, I sat repeating,
"To the rules he is not heeding, such vitriol I do abhor.
Our fAir rules he is not heeding, his vitriol I do abhor.
In silence I can sit no more."

Presently my soul grew stronger, hesitating then no longer
"Sir," said I, "or madam, surely you must know the score.
You never side with Bruins, they ever lead you into ruins,
Fair Cal be you not screwin' screwin' at my cyber door,
Else I'll be compelled to flame you." HeRe I typed out to the boor.
Nothing less and nothing more.

Deep into the Growls list peering, long I sat there wondering, fearing,
Hoping, dreaming dreams that the fiend would care to post no more.
But the silence it was broken, a response powripp had spoken;
He'd given me rude token, which I'd neVer read before.
This I pondered, and an echo murmured back the words "you whore...!"
Merely this and nothing more.

Two weeks then went by passing, growing bolder was his sassing;
Soon again I read a missive, something fouler than before.
"Surely," said I, in full arousal, "is a response at my disposal.
Let me sniff, then, whAt my nose will, and this mystery explore,
Set my mind adrift a moment and this mystery explore
This here post I can't ignore."

I so desired to roust this game while not sullying my good name
So then upon a course I set to parody this dreadful boor,
To use his words and writing style, keeping mine hid all the while.
These tight guidelines caused me not to smile for they constitute a chore.
Yet the skills I learned at Cal, whatever eLse could they be for?
Thus powertripp was born...

And still the posts they kept appearing, always caustic, sometimes searing,
Never wavering from dread purpose which in his heart he bore.
Firing the coach mid-season? He'd surely taken leave of reason;
For him there was no pleasin,' till Holmoe was our coach no more.
"Kick his butt out now," he said, "eLse more losing is in store.
Of wins we shall have no more."

"You alumni, you are to blame! This is football, not a game!"
Though his logic little meaning, little relevancy bore;
Of this he was not tiring, ever scheming and conspiring
To bring about the firing of the coach he did abhor
And blame for the declinE of football fortunes in years four
To doormats on the PAC-10 floor.

And into this heated tumult he brought the notion of a Cult
Of Tom, with myopic sycophantic members at its core
With their fetid gums a flapping, each others' backs they are a slapping,
And their hands mindlessly clapping with their tongues upon the floor,
AlwaYs willing to forget each blowout loss that came before,
Saying "Next year! One year more!"

As it turns out Holmoe stunk, the program to great depths has sunk;
After But one measly victory poor Tom was shown the door.
Powripp, showing no remorse, continued work on the dead horse
Squashing meaningful discourse with old stale arguments of yore,
As if he drew his vigor and identity from arguments of yore.
"Yawn," quoth Blueblood, "What a bore."

And when that battle was all done he flailed to find another one
To captivate his will and bEing as Holmoe had before.
He attacked the Berkeley left whom he argued was bereft
Of moral conscience, leaving cleft Cal from the world, ever as before,
Ugly hairy feminazis continuing the legacy of yore.
"Use a razor, I implore!"

After the New York attack his brushstrokes remained white and black,
His jingoistic rantings mAde him so hard to ignore.
He also had temerity to question a Berkeley degree.
Nevertheless "It's plain to see that no one loves Cal more!"
To rip the university means no one loves Cal more?
I'll stand for that, nevermore.

Through it all I've been here trailing, mimicking his vapid railing,
Exposing him as an inteRnal troll whom I abhor.
He doesn't seem to like me well, as yesterday's long thread will tell;
It should be as clear as a bell that him I will trail evermore.
If crap to jerk chains he will post, I'll be equal to the chore.
I'll cease hounding - Nevermore!

And so, my friends, this tale is done
With nothing lost and nothing won.
For those who liked it, you've been good sports,
And as for powripp, EAT MY SHORTS.

SiniCal;842167666 said:

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up above in the header of this board is a highlighted announcement..
> Happy 15th Anniversary CyberBears!!!
> CyberBears.ORG Grand Opening was on September 03, 1998

been there done that. and more than a few of us still present posted at predecessor fansonly bbs website too.

[kiddies can't imagine slower than sn*t dialup modems, molasses rolling uphill both ways]


here's one memory about fansonly, feel free to add yours too, OR EVEN BETTER cybears.org:
commuting south to visit family in san diego, out in the sticks crashed fansonly offices near oceanside, seeking <gosh what was his name> the literally ever powerful bbs moderater at the time. whoops, turned out mr sanity was gone occupying BurningMan that week.


ohkay, that's all i got, except for puzzlement nobody else noticed the 15th anniversary notice?

signed (in the day) Jester Of BS, an honorific gifted by an unavoidable web dominating presence back then: "sultan of swat [Smack?]" aka bluebl**d.

ps: this post will scroll off page 1, just like other ignored threads, in 16 to 24 hours.

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Or actually meeting in real life.

+1

cyberbears.org is still online but no one has gone there or done anything in years and years.

You can stroll down memory lane if you want.

SiniCal;842168859 said:

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.. i remember something about that incident too HotB.

see, once upon a time (before Y2K even) there was a novice cybears volunteer, let's call him Sorcerer's Apprentice... and we all lived cy-happily ever after.

that's my story and i'm a stick'n to it#

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Thank you! I knew you had some redeeming qualities. Must be your, ahem, stories


That and you once offered to car pool me down to So Cal for a Cal game a handful of years ago. Alas, my family ended up going so we drove after all. But thanks for that too!

Cal8285;842169065 said:

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What Stanford Observer was like in person, I do not know, but as a poster, comparing him to Gary T is an insult to Gary T.

Stanford Observer WAS, however, a sneaky smart SOB as an opposition poster. He knew you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, he was so darned NICE and SWEET here while pursuing his pro-Stanford agenda, Cal fans would think, awww, he's a good dude, and then not be so bothered with all his pro-Stanford BS.

...As a poster, however, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing, a dirty, rotten, sneaky furd.

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YES! My skin would crawl when reading some of SO's stuff. I called SO out a few times for backhanded compliments and condescending b$ that was, as you might say, dripping with honey. On top of that, SO was the King of Backpedal, especially when she/he suspected she/he had been caught.

SO was one of the few people I have ever called out, mostly because I hated that SO thought She/he was getting away with it all.

HairOfTheBear;842169292 said:

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..you once offered to car pool me down to So Cal for a Cal game a handful of years ago. Alas, my family ended up going so we drove after all. But thanks for that too!

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maan, this week in particular i've been burning my nose halfway to both ears try'n to recall how we (almost) met.. much indebted for the reminder. the operative word of the day being Burning 'cause a *lot* of that was going on down south iirc.

Go With Oski HotB.

Calfans;842169291 said:

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cyberbears.org is still online but no one has gone there or done anything in years and years.

You can stroll down memory lane if you want.

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here's the lifeboat subsection where some of the very best old timey contributions ended up:
http://www.cyberbears.org/webcgi/classic.cgi

apparently none of that stuff got rescued to anywhere over here.

be aware the handle that shows on items in the classic board is the name of any person who felt like recopying it there for preservation, most always *not* the original author.

and, ummm, funny thing, i spotted right off at least 3, more likely 5, of my loong ago expired aliaii; all launched in good clean fun and acknowledged as mine at the time:
Anonymouse, Nobody [usage was like "Nobody knows"], cjay, Cabin Boy (???), and MOC [a handle shared with KAB, shortly afterwards wholly his].

always cheerful Pollyanna, and sad puss Sackbush dint make the cut.




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Go-Bears Digest changed my life...or at least took me from being a casual fan to being a real fan.

The highlight of my day back then was getting my copy of the digest. And then calling up my friends and acting like I had real "inside" information.

Maybe it is just a fake memory, but the discussions seemed more robust with a lot less flame.

And I do recall one excellent post about the Washington football team and their attitude/expectation on winning...and how that could/should be Cal's. Awesome suff.

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can't remember if the original cajun lurker crossed over to bearinsiders, but i've got a vague recollection he switched to handle "stanf*rd debate" at the previous joint. not helpful to maintaining contact was bricking my no-backups desktop some years ago.. twice.

without question i did hear that katrina and followon troubles were nearly fatal to his extended family business.

re SO, sorry, all the advanced thinking goes right over my simple mind, clueless i guess. gave him a ride in my car once after lunch on the farm. very personable guy, um, in person.

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Wow, leave for a few days to go to a great Giants game Friday, then break my hand the next morning and miss the PSU game to have surgery, and so much more good stuff in this thread!

I believe you are correct that cajunlurker became stanford debate. Sorry to hear Katrina caused trouble for his family.

Once upon a time a close friend of mine was described in the following way: "He's a great guy when he's not being an asshole." A personable guy, we spent many enjoyable times together. He was (and probably still is) a truly great guy, sometimes. But boy, did a lot of people really not like him, and I would say justifiably so. In person, based on what I heard, I wouldn't be surprised if Terry was a great guy at times, not so much at others. He probably thought he was being a great guy by being a wolf in sheep's clothing on CyberBears, and to many Stanford people, that WAS being a great guy, but to Cal fans, not so much.

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Wow, leave for a few days to go to a great Giants game Friday, then break my hand the next morning and miss the PSU game to have surgery, and so much more good stuff in this thread!

I believe you are correct that cajunlurker became stanford debate. Sorry to hear Katrina caused trouble for his family.

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yeahbut, when's the *other* guy (from the farm, riight??) get out of the hospital? i kid.

get better quick 82-5.

hunt and peck typing s*cks #

BearsWiin;842169188 said:

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I remember that. Snake.

I could respect posters like Bete Rouge/Redrum and Garvin. They were articulate assholes, but you knew exactly where they stood.

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Bete Rouge/Redrum and Garvin, yes you knew exactly where they stood, which I certainly prefer to the snake. They were the types that I generally wouldn't even bother to engage. There wasn't much need, nobody around here was going to buy into anything they said, and it wasn't really possible to screw with them, they were just here to screw with us, like trolls, mostly best ignored.

I shamefully admit, I had forgotten about one of my all-time favorite "CyberBears," PowerTripp. Positively brilliant. In general, I think it wrong to torment people, but I enjoyed seeing powripp tormented. Lovely to see "The Ravin'" reprinted.

SiniCal;842173119 said:

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yeahbut, when's the *other* guy (from the farm, riight??) get out of the hospital? i kid.

get better quick 82-5.

hunt and peck typing s*cks #

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Yeah, the only good news is that I'm left-handed, and I did in the right hand, I'd really hate to hunt and peck with my right.

I've been telling people I ran into Eric Chavez after the game Friday and punched him in the head, not for breaking up the perfect game, but for not swinging at the 2-2 pitch. Or that I punched a metal bench in section T after witnessing the Cal D in the 1st half Saturday. Both more interesting stories than taking a U-turn on my bicycle at an intersection that was more gravelly than I anticipated.

I'll be in a cast, but barring any other unexpected misfortune, I will see tOSU at Memorial this Sat. Thanks for your good wishes.

Cal8285;842173124 said:

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I've been telling people I ran into Eric Chavez after the game Friday and punched him in the head, not for breaking up the perfect game, but for not swinging at the 2-2 pitch. Or that I punched a metal bench in section T after witnessing the Cal D in the 1st half Saturday. Both more interesting stories than taking a U-turn on my bicycle at an intersection that was more gravelly than I anticipated.

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you were there so you know it's the unvarnished truth (ok-Ohkay.. slightly varnished), but never got to tell the story anywhere else before this..

gameday on a lonely sat*rday, in Holmoe's last season, i was doing quarter laps on the west side pathway next to cms.

out of nowhere a hulking creature grabbed me by the shirt, pulled me to attention, and introduced himself. a buffed fella, who by all cybers accounts used to power-walk sierra backcountry marathon's before breakfast, shared his name and handle.

we chatted briefly, me on best best behaviour of course, when out the corner of my eye spied Yet Another Dominant Icon starting up CMS stairs.

"hey R***** i yelled", but the fella kept going. startled, '8285 corrected "no, that's my name". eventually i 'splained both y'all were R*****s.

pointless story? maybe, but you made quite an impression, if only from wondering "How'd He Know I'm [Was] CJay??" That cursed cybers t-shirt [we gave one to CoachH btw] was the most likely tell.

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^ bearly remembered good old days

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