We are way beyond even the worst plausible scenario of typical player attrition at this point in the season. And it's all on the defensive side.

How does player conditioning prevent head and knee injuries?

NYCGOBEARS;842193372 said:

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How does player conditioning prevent head and knee injuries?

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This right here. Doubt conditioning had anything to do with Avery's injury. McClure has had a history of getting injured. Scarrlet , Fortt, and Jalil's injury date back to last season. McCain was cut and we've had many players just leave. Our 2010 defensive class has been nothing but an academic and personal problem bust

Bear_Territory;842193374 said:

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This right here. Doubt conditioning had anything to do with Avery's injury. McClure has had a history of getting injured. Scarrlet , Fortt, and Jalil's injury date back to last season. McCain was cut and we've had many players just leave. Our 2010 defensive class has been nothing but an academic and personal problem bust

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This is correct. The coaches need to recruit players who don't have a history of injuries. That won't solve the problem completely, but we've seen several instances of recurring injuries that will not get better.

I don't know about preventing injuries. But I do feel that our team needs a bit more speed. Maybe they can do more cardio Some players just can't keep up. We need more agility at the line if we want to try getting some sacks and if we want to protect our QB. We also can't execute fast paced offense if our players can't keep up.

What about tackling technique? I think we've had a few injuries on defenders making (or trying to make) a tackle. The most recent one was in the red zone of the WSU game. I think it may have been Jefferson.

It's something in the water, or maybe the food at CKC. Too much organic stuff; not enough GMOs and hormones in the food there, I bet :p.

I blame yoga. Exercise of the devil.

Might be new medical/treatment protocols for injuries, especially head injuries. Cal's Med Director is also the U.S. Olympic Med Director, so I'd guess they're on top of the latest info and techniques.

beelzebear;842193624 said:

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Might be new medical/treatment protocols for injuries, especially head injuries. Cal's Med Director is also the U.S. Olympic Med Director, so I'd guess they're on top of the latest info and techniques.

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Other members on BI have hinted a problem with our med staff.

This is clearly the fault of Tosh Lupus.

freshfunk;842193698 said:

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Other members on BI have hinted a problem with our med staff.

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Isn't training staff the prep people and medical staff the fix it people?

BTW, didn't the medical staff stay more or less the same from last season, but the training staff or Cal FB changed? Any way, no use blaming either because without inside info or technical expertise, hard to say.

im not so sure the injuries have anything to do with the conditioning

injuries that have to do with conditioning are usually more muscle strains and pulls and i dont see a lot of those. i see more injuries from players that seem to get themselves in akward positions which more indicate bad fundamentals. torn knees, achilles, and generally get the concussion more when youre on the receiving ends of hits. the less fundamentally sound your team is, the more likely they can get injured

BeachyBear;842193603 said:

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I blame yoga. Exercise of the devil.

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You build a training facility on a sacred Native American burial site and this is what happens every time

From the look of our team, there is not enough steroid usage to overcome the physical punishment of football

0.o

I think a lack of regular shampooing has more to do with our downfall than conditioning. I blame Tedford for this. But we're still better than everyone because we have more Nobel Prize winners.

GB54;842193838 said:

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You build a training facility on a sacred Native American burial site and this is what happens every time

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I have just the one:

gobears725;842193833 said:

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im not so sure the injuries have anything to do with the conditioning

injuries that have to do with conditioning are usually more muscle strains and pulls and i dont see a lot of those. i see more injuries from players that seem to get themselves in akward positions which more indicate bad fundamentals. torn knees, achilles, and generally get the concussion more when youre on the receiving ends of hits. the less fundamentally sound your team is, the more likely they can get injured

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While this is true of some injuries (e.g., spinal cord injuries), I have never seen evidence (or even anyone else claim such a thing) in the history of football. A torn achilles has nothing to do with fundamentals. Neither does knee injuries. On what ground do you base this (prediction: you made it up to further a narrative).

grandmastapoop;842193883 said:

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While this is true of some injuries (e.g., spinal cord injuries), I have never seen evidence (or even anyone else claim such a thing) in the history of football. A torn achilles has nothing to do with fundamentals. Neither does knee injuries. On what ground do you base this (prediction: you made it up to further a narrative).

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haha poop. just off the top of my head like kam jackson's injury. the have drills where your taught to avoid cut blocks. not saying what the oregon guy did wasnt dirty, but when a guy goes low have to do a better job of avoiding it. jalen jefferson was also out of position on the goal line and had to come back and make a hit on the side. went the wrong direction, wrong read and had to recover and make the hit. kind of put himself in a bit of an akward position. i didnt see with willis. sonny also had a quote from his presser today saying that he didnt think the injuries were related to conditioning.

gobears725;842193892 said:

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haha poop. just off the top of my head like kam jackson's injury. the have drills where your taught to avoid cut blocks. not saying what the oregon guy did wasnt dirty, but when a guy goes low have to do a better job of avoiding it. jalen jefferson was also out of position on the goal line and had to come back and make a hit on the side. went the wrong direction, wrong read and had to recover and make the hit. kind of put himself in a bit of an akward position. i didnt see with willis. sonny also had a quote from his presser today saying that he didnt think the injuries were related to conditioning.

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The only way he is going to say lack of conditioning is one of the reasons is if he blames the prior staff for leaving our team in such terrible shape and that it will take more than one off-season to remedy it. Like I said in another thread, I've only seen this many injuries on teams that used to play DLS quite a few years ago when DLS was light years ahead of most high school teams with their conditioning. I don't see that anymore as most high schools have decent off season programs. I hope we are doing enough strength training. I sure see a lot of guys leaner this year, especially on our lines and linebackers, and given how we've not held up at the point of attack it doesn't point to stronger/leaner just leaner.