Um, just a few things to get off of my chest here.

In no particular order. Let's see,

We're not going 1-11. Please.

No, Bigelow should not have been starting last year.

Sonny is not going to get fired, and I seriously doubt anyone on the staff will be let go this year. Those calling for it are just embarrassing themselves.

Goff is pretty good, Kline is pretty good; as was the case with their predecessors, these coaches know better than me which of the two is most up for the task at hand. They know better than you too.

All these night games are getting old. In addition to whatever else, it's hard to bring young ones out, and build that tradition when all the games end after 11.

It's not so much about the uniforms anymore now is it?

Tedford is not the antichrist.

Sandy is not the antichrist.

I really like Tony Franklin. His offense I hope to really like.

We need a third board here in addition to the Insider and Growls boards, we need the Go **** in the Woods board for those who just can't resist wetting themselves.

Fake punts and going for it on 4th are not the end-all.

The new stadium is cool.

Also, if you're truly a fan of the game, and a fan of the school, it's ok to be disappointed. Or as my son used to say, appointed. "Papa, are you appointed with me? No son. Never." A true fan will find interesting things to look for and take from these games, even during the particularly challenging times. Winning is important, but it can't be just about winning and losing only. Adversity is ok, really; if you love something it'll break your heart on occasion. Doesn't mean you have to continually stomp it.

Finally, life is tough. Don't blame others.
It's not the government, or the poor, or the rich, or a quarterback, or anyone else making your life tough. It just the nature of it. Football is one of the tonics.

And, of course, Go Bears!

You should have mentioned piped in music

Ah yes, the post complaining about other people complaining. A Cyberbears/BI classic.

I actually agree with most of your points, although if you don't think 1-11 is even on the table we are watching different teams.

drizzlybears brother;842198794 said:

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Um, just a few things to get off of my chest here.

In no particular order. Let’s see,

We’re not going 1-11. Please.

No, Bigelow should not have been starting last year.

Sonny is not going to get fired, and I seriously doubt anyone on the staff will be let go this year. Those calling for it are just embarrassing themselves.

Goff is pretty good, Kline is pretty good; as was the case with their predecessors, these coaches know better than me which of the two is most up for the task at hand. They know better than you too.

All these night games are getting old. In addition to whatever else, it’s hard to bring young ones out, and build that tradition when all the games end after 11.

It’s not so much about the uniforms anymore now is it?

Tedford is not the antichrist.

Sandy is not the antichrist.

I really like Tony Franklin. His offense I hope to really like.

We need a third board here in addition to the Insider and Growls boards, we need the Go **** in the Woods board for those who just can’t resist wetting themselves.

Fake punts and going for it on 4th are not the end-all.

The new stadium is cool.

Also, if you’re truly a fan of the game, and a fan of the school, it’s ok to be disappointed. Or as my son used to say, appointed. “Papa, are you appointed with me? No son. Never.” A true fan will find interesting things to look for and take from these games, even during the particularly challenging times. Winning is important, but it can’t be just about winning and losing only. Adversity is ok, really; if you love something it’ll break your heart on occasion. Doesn’t mean you have to continually stomp it.

Finally, life is tough. Don’t blame others.
It’s not the government, or the poor, or the rich, or a quarterback, or anyone else making your life tough. It just the nature of it. Football is one of the tonics.

And, of course, Go Bears!

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I generally agree with your point except about the 1-11 (it's very likely in my book. We maaaybe have 1 upset in us) and about any coaching staff being fired after this year.

I think they should be open to the possibility of it at the end of the season depending on whether or not we see major improvements. Injuries aside, we should re-examine the defensive coaches since our players don't even execute fundamental tackling well currently. I'd also say Yenser is someone who we may want to reconsider at this point. I'd put Ingram in that category as well but he seems like he could be a good recruiter and he might be necessary to Franklin's offensive. Still, our RB performance has not been up to Gould's standard and I'm not in the camp of saying that we lack the talent on the roster right now.

I think that there's a 25% chance we go 1-11. However, I think there's a 80% chance we do no better than 3-9, our record from last year.

To me, there isn't a huge difference between the two records.

Because of our SOS, perhaps the better method of evaluation (for this season) is our improvement in play (or lack there of). Currently that's looking spotty. The offense has regressed. The defense first regressed but seems to have improved a bit.

Because this the first year in the system, one might expect some growing pains (especially considering injuries and youth). But I think had excuse disappears as time goes on. Half way through the season it's less of a excuse an after a full year that excuse, to me, is practically gone. If you can't coach your system in one full season then it's either a bad system (too complex) or the coaching is bad. Even if we don't have the largest or fastest guys, you would still expect some level of execution (perhaps with less success).

Btw I use "1-11" remarks to simplify the argument that this season is lost and we should use this rebuilding year to try new things. Winning against Colorado is no reason to be ossified with the status quo.

Awesome post

Well Gould couldn't do any better with BB or Lasco and Khalfani is a true frosh and not brought in to be an every down back...especially his first year. I like the fight in Coprich and so far seems to be able to hold onto the ball.

SanJuanBear;842198804 said:

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Ah yes, the post complaining about other people complaining. A Cyberbears/BI classic.

I actually agree with most of your points, although if you don't think 1-11 is even on the table we are watching different teams.

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When I read the title of the thread, I thought that's where it was going, too. However, having read it, it seems to be more of a pick me up, the sky is not falling down, post.

One thing I want to add. I know there's a lot of Bear on Bear crime on these boards, but let's all remember that deep down, we all care about the same thing, which is the success of this program. Even the constant complaining is a good thing, as it shows passion. We'll know we hit true rock bottom when there's no one left who cares to even vent on this board.

YuSeeBerkeley;842198833 said:

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When I read the title of the thread, I thought that's where it was going, too. However, having read it, it seems to be more of a pick me up, the sky is not falling down, post.

One thing I want to add. I know there's a lot of Bear on Bear crime on these boards, but let's all remember that deep down, we all care about the same thing, which is the success of this program. Even the constant complaining is a good thing, as it shows passion. We'll know we hit true rock bottom when there's no one left who cares to even vent on this board.

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+1.

I know it's impossible but we could be having the same conversations without all the condescension and ad hominem attacks. Some people just can't help themselves.

:gobears:

drizzlybears brother;842198794 said:

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Um, just a few things to get off of my chest here.

In no particular order. Let's see,

We're not going 1-11. Please.

No, Bigelow should not have been starting last year.

Sonny is not going to get fired, and I seriously doubt anyone on the staff will be let go this year. Those calling for it are just embarrassing themselves.

Goff is pretty good, Kline is pretty good; as was the case with their predecessors, these coaches know better than me which of the two is most up for the task at hand. They know better than you too.

All these night games are getting old. In addition to whatever else, it's hard to bring young ones out, and build that tradition when all the games end after 11.

It's not so much about the uniforms anymore now is it?

Tedford is not the antichrist.

Sandy is not the antichrist.

I really like Tony Franklin. His offense I hope to really like.

We need a third board here in addition to the Insider and Growls boards, we need the Go **** in the Woods board for those who just can't resist wetting themselves.

Fake punts and going for it on 4th are not the end-all.

The new stadium is cool.

Also, if you're truly a fan of the game, and a fan of the school, it's ok to be disappointed. Or as my son used to say, appointed. "Papa, are you appointed with me? No son. Never." A true fan will find interesting things to look for and take from these games, even during the particularly challenging times. Winning is important, but it can't be just about winning and losing only. Adversity is ok, really; if you love something it'll break your heart on occasion. Doesn't mean you have to continually stomp it.

Finally, life is tough. Don't blame others.
It's not the government, or the poor, or the rich, or a quarterback, or anyone else making your life tough. It just the nature of it. Football is one of the tonics.

And, of course, Go Bears!

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I nominate you as BI Sensei. Please enlighten us like this more often!

Great perspective.

SanJuanBear;842198804 said:

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Ah yes, the post complaining about other people complaining. A Cyberbears/BI classic.

I actually agree with most of your points, although if you don't think 1-11 is even on the table we are watching different teams.

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I know, just trying to keep us from becoming BRO. Too little, too late?

Angry? Entitled? Insolent? Is that the draw?

Sure I think that 1-11 is on the table, everything is on the table, but I just don't see it happening. In my mind, for the team to lose out, there would be a lot more that still has to go wrong. It could happen, but you've got to admit that the stuff we've seen this year is really like no other.

We've looked bad to date for all kinds of predictable reasons, but we should also look better down the stretch for a lot of predictable reasons.

Either way, what do I gain by crying about it?

Refreshing post drizzly, thanks.

SRBear;842198827 said:

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Awesome post

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+1
Go Bears!

drizzlybears brother;842198840 said:

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I know, just trying to keep us from becoming BRO. Too little, too late?

Angry? Entitled? Insolent? Is that the draw?

Sure I think that 1-11 is on the table, everything is on the table, but I just don’t see it happening. In my mind, for the team to lose out, there would be a lot more that still has to go wrong. It could happen, but you’ve got to admit that the stuff we’ve seen this year is really like no other.

We’ve looked bad to date for all kinds of predictable reasons, but we should also look better down the stretch for a lot of predictable reasons.

Either way, what do I gain by crying about it?

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A couple of solid posts. I believe the nadir is behind us.

Go Bears!

+1

we aren't going 1-11 b/c we've seen flashes and improvement and good play from each of the units (offense, defense, special teams) but not all at once. this is a characteristic of young teams...inconsistency. injuries have just exacerbated everything. but there will be one game (maybe two if we're lucky) where all units decide to play well and we pull off a win. i know, not a great thing (woohoo 2 wins!), but I don't think we're going 1-11.

drizzlybears brother;842198794 said:

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Um, just a few things to get off of my chest here.

In no particular order. Let's see,

We're not going 1-11. Please.

No, Bigelow should not have been starting last year.

Sonny is not going to get fired, and I seriously doubt anyone on the staff will be let go this year. Those calling for it are just embarrassing themselves.

Goff is pretty good, Kline is pretty good; as was the case with their predecessors, these coaches know better than me which of the two is most up for the task at hand. They know better than you too.

All these night games are getting old. In addition to whatever else, it's hard to bring young ones out, and build that tradition when all the games end after 11.

It's not so much about the uniforms anymore now is it?

Tedford is not the antichrist.

Sandy is not the antichrist.

I really like Tony Franklin. His offense I hope to really like.

We need a third board here in addition to the Insider and Growls boards, we need the Go **** in the Woods board for those who just can't resist wetting themselves.

Fake punts and going for it on 4th are not the end-all.

The new stadium is cool.

Also, if you're truly a fan of the game, and a fan of the school, it's ok to be disappointed. Or as my son used to say, appointed. "Papa, are you appointed with me? No son. Never." A true fan will find interesting things to look for and take from these games, even during the particularly challenging times. Winning is important, but it can't be just about winning and losing only. Adversity is ok, really; if you love something it'll break your heart on occasion. Doesn't mean you have to continually stomp it.

Finally, life is tough. Don't blame others.
It's not the government, or the poor, or the rich, or a quarterback, or anyone else making your life tough. It just the nature of it. Football is one of the tonics.
And, of course, Go Bears!

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That last comment was pretty zen. Suffering happens, take responsibility for your own suffering.

drizzlybears brother;842198794 said:

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Um, just a few things to get off of my chest here.

In no particular order. Let's see,

We're not going 1-11. Please.

No, Bigelow should not have been starting last year.

Sonny is not going to get fired, and I seriously doubt anyone on the staff will be let go this year. Those calling for it are just embarrassing themselves.

Goff is pretty good, Kline is pretty good; as was the case with their predecessors, these coaches know better than me which of the two is most up for the task at hand. They know better than you too.

All these night games are getting old. In addition to whatever else, it's hard to bring young ones out, and build that tradition when all the games end after 11.

It's not so much about the uniforms anymore now is it?

Tedford is not the antichrist.

Sandy is not the antichrist.

I really like Tony Franklin. His offense I hope to really like.

We need a third board here in addition to the Insider and Growls boards, we need the Go **** in the Woods board for those who just can't resist wetting themselves.

Fake punts and going for it on 4th are not the end-all.

The new stadium is cool.

Also, if you're truly a fan of the game, and a fan of the school, it's ok to be disappointed. Or as my son used to say, appointed. "Papa, are you appointed with me? No son. Never." A true fan will find interesting things to look for and take from these games, even during the particularly challenging times. Winning is important, but it can't be just about winning and losing only. Adversity is ok, really; if you love something it'll break your heart on occasion. Doesn't mean you have to continually stomp it.

Finally, life is tough. Don't blame others.
It's not the government, or the poor, or the rich, or a quarterback, or anyone else making your life tough. It just the nature of it. Football is one of the tonics.

And, of course, Go Bears!

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Now why go ahead and inject a reasonable, cogent post into this self-flagellation?

Agree with just about all your points - couple nitpicks. I have no kids, so couldn't care that they have trouble getting there. (now get off my lawn). TV drives the bus, and we really need the money. And Bockrath is the antichrist.

And, of course ..

:beer:

The real danger is APATHY.
I am not bothered by those who predict doom, who criticize the coaches, who want SB fired etc. They at least care. The real danger - financially and football wise is apathy. If people get into a "it's Cal after all" and "why get excited about this" mood, then the program will be doomed. Empty stadiums with students who have no enthusiasm and leave the game early are the result of apathy, and I have never seen apathy like this even during the Gilbertson, Kapp, Theder and Holmoe years.
This is really grim. I don't remember so few stories and so few posts on this site in its history. Even when it was started on Scout and Holmoe was the coach it seems to me that we had more people posting than now. I can't prove it by stats, but it sure seems that way to this old fan.

GB54;842198797 said:

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You should have mentioned piped in music

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I am telling you, once they fix the ph balance in the waterfountains it will ALL be good.

Oh and bringing back the carnation ice cream cups....and better nachoes

Davidson;842198861 said:

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we aren't going 1-11 b/c we've seen flashes and improvement and good play from each of the units (offense, defense, special teams) but not all at once. this is a characteristic of young teams...inconsistency. injuries have just exacerbated everything. but there will be one game (maybe two if we're lucky) where all units decide to play well and we pull off a win. i know, not a great thing (woohoo 2 wins!), but I don't think we're going 1-11.

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Also this wonderful thing called Colorado.

drizzlybears brother;842198794 said:

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Um, just a few things to get off of my chest here.

In no particular order. Let's see,

We're not going 1-11. Please.

No, Bigelow should not have been starting last year.

Sonny is not going to get fired, and I seriously doubt anyone on the staff will be let go this year. Those calling for it are just embarrassing themselves.

Goff is pretty good, Kline is pretty good; as was the case with their predecessors, these coaches know better than me which of the two is most up for the task at hand. They know better than you too.

All these night games are getting old. In addition to whatever else, it's hard to bring young ones out, and build that tradition when all the games end after 11.

It's not so much about the uniforms anymore now is it?

Tedford is not the antichrist.

Sandy is not the antichrist.

I really like Tony Franklin. His offense I hope to really like.

We need a third board here in addition to the Insider and Growls boards, we need the Go **** in the Woods board for those who just can't resist wetting themselves.

Fake punts and going for it on 4th are not the end-all.

The new stadium is cool.

Also, if you're truly a fan of the game, and a fan of the school, it's ok to be disappointed. Or as my son used to say, appointed. "Papa, are you appointed with me? No son. Never." A true fan will find interesting things to look for and take from these games, even during the particularly challenging times. Winning is important, but it can't be just about winning and losing only. Adversity is ok, really; if you love something it'll break your heart on occasion. Doesn't mean you have to continually stomp it.

Finally, life is tough. Don't blame others.
It's not the government, or the poor, or the rich, or a quarterback, or anyone else making your life tough. It just the nature of it. Football is one of the tonics.

And, of course, Go Bears!

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Excellent !

Although we MAY go 1-11, though i don't think so either. I think it's just as likely we win one of our remaining home games as beating CU on the road though, I don't see that as an easy victory at all.

Very nice, drizzly.

Especially with the games going well over three hours, the night kickoffs ought to be the exception, not the norm. Fine for watching on TV, but not so good for many traveling to Memorial.

drizzlybears brother;842198794 said:

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Um, just a few things to get off of my chest here.

In no particular order. Let's see,

We're not going 1-11. Please.

No, Bigelow should not have been starting last year.

Sonny is not going to get fired, and I seriously doubt anyone on the staff will be let go this year. Those calling for it are just embarrassing themselves.

Goff is pretty good, Kline is pretty good; as was the case with their predecessors, these coaches know better than me which of the two is most up for the task at hand. They know better than you too.

All these night games are getting old. In addition to whatever else, it's hard to bring young ones out, and build that tradition when all the games end after 11.

It's not so much about the uniforms anymore now is it?

Tedford is not the antichrist.

Sandy is not the antichrist.

I really like Tony Franklin. His offense I hope to really like.

We need a third board here in addition to the Insider and Growls boards, we need the Go **** in the Woods board for those who just can't resist wetting themselves.

Fake punts and going for it on 4th are not the end-all.

The new stadium is cool.

Also, if you're truly a fan of the game, and a fan of the school, it's ok to be disappointed. Or as my son used to say, appointed. "Papa, are you appointed with me? No son. Never." A true fan will find interesting things to look for and take from these games, even during the particularly challenging times. Winning is important, but it can't be just about winning and losing only. Adversity is ok, really; if you love something it'll break your heart on occasion. Doesn't mean you have to continually stomp it.

Finally, life is tough. Don't blame others.
It's not the government, or the poor, or the rich, or a quarterback, or anyone else making your life tough. It just the nature of it. Football is one of the tonics.

And, of course, Go Bears!

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OldenBear;842198873 said:

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Now why go ahead and inject a reasonable, cogent post into this self-flagellation?

Agree with just about all your points - couple nitpicks. I have no kids, so couldn't care that they have trouble getting there. (now get off my lawn). TV drives the bus, and we really need the money. And Bockrath is the antichrist.

And, of course ..

:beer:

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I actually had a chance to meet and spend some extended time with Bob Bockrath while he was the AD. He made it a point to get some experience with the farthest reaches of his Athletic Department in that first year and ended up taking a 3-week sailing class from me. Summer sailing in the Bay Area can be a physically demanding experience at times and I was impressed with his willingness to see it through. It felt like it was more than he'd signed up for, but to his credit he got it done.

I hated to see Snyder go, but I wasn't privy to the forces at play in that one. At the least the guy was a good sport in a slightly uncomfortable setting.

I know, I've touched the third rail of BI, didn't bash Bockrath. I'm beyond reform.

This is the real danger. Losing and making the program less accessible (ie 8PM game starts) really endangers the program down the road. Sonny has more control than anyone about the winning. Sandy might not be able to change the starting time of games, but she primarily can make the games more accessible.

I still can't believe how young this football team is. Great post and this is going to turn out just fine.:gobears:

The collective intellect of this board is about 10X higher than BRO so I don't think we've gone that far (yet at least :p)

I'm not sure I agree that a lot more has to go wrong for us to continue losing. From my vantage we could plateau at the level we've seen the last two weeks and not have significantly more injuries and still not win again this season.

Our offense has gotten worse and the defense slightly better. Not a great place to be in this league right now. Hopefully we'll actually improve but other teams improve too and we seem to be far away from competing against even average teams at this point.

I agree CU is a possible win as are UA and SC but I would make us underdog in each game at this point. I think 1 win is a distinct possibility.

I understand your personality is not to gnash your teeth about the negatives but others are the opposite. Everyone is different and as others noted, at least people still care.

drizzlybears brother;842198840 said:

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I know, just trying to keep us from becoming BRO. Too little, too late?

Angry? Entitled? Insolent? Is that the draw?

Sure I think that 1-11 is on the table, everything is on the table, but I just don't see it happening. In my mind, for the team to lose out, there would be a lot more that still has to go wrong. It could happen, but you've got to admit that the stuff we've seen this year is really like no other.

We've looked bad to date for all kinds of predictable reasons, but we should also look better down the stretch for a lot of predictable reasons.

Either way, what do I gain by crying about it?

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Awesome post

slobear;842198846 said:

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+1
Go Bears!

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+1

CAL6371;842198883 said:

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The real danger is APATHY.
I am not bothered by those who predict doom, who criticize the coaches, who want SB fired etc. They at least care. The real danger - financially and football wise is apathy. If people get into a "it's Cal after all" and "why get excited about this" mood, then the program will be doomed. Empty stadiums with students who have no enthusiasm and leave the game early are the result of apathy, and I have never seen apathy like this even during the Gilbertson, Kapp, Theder and Holmoe years.
This is really grim. I don't remember so few stories and so few posts on this site in its history. Even when it was started on Scout and Holmoe was the coach it seems to me that we had more people posting than now. I can't prove it by stats, but it sure seems that way to this old fan.

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+1

Call me/them "fair weather fans" but setting aside precious time on the weekends to watch us get slaughtered is becoming less and less appealing. Even my wife asks why I subject myself to such torture if I know we're guaranteed to lose (and she went to Cal!).

Apathy is already setting in. Look at all the empty seats in Memorial.

Unfortunately it's not just school spirit that's at risk but our financial obligations as well.

In the past few years, I've always made an effort to go to at least a few games, even after I started having kids. It's not an easy task to have to negotiate being gone for a good part of the weekend. The way this season is going I just don't feel any motivation to make the trek.

And at least I'm in the bay area. I can't imagine how it is for those who actually fly in from other parts of the country.

So long as our student-athletes are fighting to win, I'm there. The last few games in 2012, I think we all sensed that the effort was not there though. If we start to mail it in again, I agree that apathy can even the hit the most ardent of supporters. Similarly, if it is felt that Cal, its coaches, are not doing everything possible to get w's, apathy begins to surface too. So long as there is a concerted effort by all involved in Cal football to win, and win now, that's good enough for me to keep apathy at bay. This is an absolute requirement; and I feel not asking all that much.

I have a 2 and 4 year old, so the last few years have been relatively tough with that reality alone. I continue buy season tickets, including for my little ones, with the hope of them going to the games with me in the coming years. And, I've donated religiously, well beyond what our seats require. I am committed.

I proposed to my wife in the Campanile, damn, 10 years this December. Our first daughter, well, she's named Cali. As a Bay Area native and proud Californian, I love Cal. I do not use the word "love" loosely, but only in relation to family members, select ones at that, the dearest of friends, and my beloved alma mater.

All of that said, as I watch the games at CMS, often through my binoculars, and on TV for the away games, I sense that the players are truly battling out there. And for the most part, I believe the coaching staff has worked very hard to address the monumental challenges this season has presented. They have dug deep into the depth chart and gotten quite creative in finding ways to remedy the situation, on both sides of the ball. As my recent posts have revealed, I personally feel that such an approach should be applied globally, and not exclude a position though...

With the "requirement" met, that being 100% effort by all involved in the Cal football program, then comes the request - to see improvement, please. I like watching good football. That can happen even without winning. It takes some starving eyes to see it I suppose, but we have seen some improvement in the D recently. In the O, possibly in the running game, ever so slight. OSU is another opportunity to see how we are progressing...

I'll be there Saturday night, calling my home at halftime to say goodnight to my little girls. It is not easy and I understand some who chose not to go to such late games...

Speaking as one Cal fan, I will never give up. Sure it is hard to watch the team you love struggle and in this competitive world of college football, accountability for success or failure is necessary (or we should join the Ivy League). As fans our responsibility is to continue to support the team. See you Saturday.

Cal89;842199005 said:

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So long as our student-athletes are fighting to win, I'm there. The last few games in 2012, I think we all sensed that the effort was not there though. If we start to mail it in again, I agree that apathy can even the hit the most ardent of supporters. Similarly, if it is felt that Cal, its coaches, are not doing everything possible to get w's, apathy begins to surface too. So long as there is a concerted effort by all involved in Cal football to win, and win now, that's good enough for me to keep apathy at bay. This is an absolute requirement; and I feel not asking all that much.

I have a 2 and 4 year old, so the last few years have been relatively tough with that reality alone. I continue buy season tickets, including for my little ones, with the hope of them going to the games with me in the coming years. And, I've donated religiously, well beyond what our seats require. I am committed.

I proposed to my wife in the Campanile, damn, 10 years this December. Our first daughter, well, she's named Cali. As a Bay Area native and proud Californian, I love Cal. I do not use the word "love" loosely, but only in relation to family members, select ones at that, the dearest of friends, and my beloved alma mater.

All of that said, as I watch the games at CMS, often through my binoculars, and on TV for the away games, I sense that the players are truly battling out there. And for the most part, I believe the coaching staff has worked very hard to address the monumental challenges this season has presented. They have dug deep into the depth chart and gotten quite creative in finding ways to remedy the situation, on both sides of the ball. As my recent posts have revealed, I personally feel that such an approach should be applied globally, and not exclude a position though...

With the "requirement" met, that being 100% effort by all involved in the Cal football program, then comes the request - to see improvement, please. I like watching good football. That can happen even without winning. It takes some starving eyes to see it I suppose, but we have seen some improvement in the D recently. In the O, possibly in the running game, ever so slight. OSU is another opportunity to see how we are progressing...

I'll be there Saturday night, calling my home at halftime to say goodnight to my little girls. It is not easy and I understand some who chose not to go to such late games...

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I like this post. For this kind of season, that on the surface doesn't have a promise of a bowl, there can still be some satisfaction to be had. More than just whether the team is playing hard, are they developing qualities that will serve them going forward?

calumnus;842198850 said:

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A couple of solid posts. I believe the nadir is behind us.

Go Bears!

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We've hit a bottom. How long do we stay here? I saw a few bright apots in the UCLA debacle. May we trend up from there?!

Hey Drizzly: Thanks man
I didn't realize those things were on my chest as well.
Not that we have similar chests or anything.
All perspective raising posts are much appreciated by yours truly.