OaktownBear;842202137 said:

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No one is saying you can't win a game. Tedford beat UCLA last year. I gave you the stats for what UA's offense did under Dykes. It is not impressive. You said he was successful at UA. I'd submit that he was not.

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The game is not played in a bubble, but Arizona won a lot of games with Dykes' system so clearly you can win A LOT of games with it. This Cal team is not winning games with it. I submit that that's the aberration. To say Dykes hasn't had any success is disingenuous.

slotright20;842202187 said:

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Third, the Franklin system is not the Leach system or what is being run at Tech today.

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More so, the Franklin System is Tony Franklin's system not Dykes. That Dykes coached under Leach and was an OC at AZ helps show he is A) not a total offensive bonehead and B) he does have experience with some form of passing spread offense. Sure they worked together for 3 years at La Tech, but before that they careers were not intertwined at all. A question is how independent is TF from Dykes' suggestions (or meddling)... Under Tedford, it seemed he drove off a lot of OC's due to micromanaging and differences in philosophy. That also made his job as HC harder because he just couldn't lay off the extra work, and that could be how one gets burnt out and neglects things like making players go to class.

I remember seeing a video where TF described his system as something like the most physical passing offense you will ever see. And the stats show that TF likes to run a lot too, and not with the QB. I see none of that physicality in the Cal offense, and OL play is a big part of that lack of physicality. And we've been rotating RB's like crazy, even giving a TE carries to try to get more physical.

Now, the question is if we can upgrade the OL's play (and how long will take?), whether this particular system has advantages over any other spread system, which are quite prevalent in the P12. No way to know until our OL plays better, but it's possible the move from small time football to Pac 12 doesn't suit this particular system due to the huge upgrades in defensive skill. But then it's time to make improvements and adapt, or get run out of town. But at this point, there is no way to tell with the injuries and inconsistent play.

The only thing I see now is a running game that doesn't really work, and a lot of short passes for no gain, often thrown dangerously into traffic. Maybe these receivers were more wide open vs NW and tOSU, but opponents D's have scouted what we can and cannot do and are adjusting accordingly.