MiZery;842248586 said:
I forget, what is there right now?
MiZery;842248586 said:
I forget, what is there right now?
Golden One;842248584 said:
That would be a great addition to downtown Berkeley! But it's not approved yet, and Berkeley being Berkeley, it will probably end up being a two-story structure with 25 rooms and space for the homeless people of People's Park to "socialize" in a weather-protected environment. And it will, naturally, have no parking, but it will have space for 50 bicycles.
oskirules;842248574 said:
This is an exciting option for visiting fans to games. I like it, close to BART and on the way to campus. I hope they provide a nice bar on ground level.
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2013/12/19/16-story-hotel-proposed-for-center-and-shattuck-in-berkeley/
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248645 said:
I'm fine with a hotel and museum there but that looks way out of scale. Successful downtowns don't have to be made up of high-rises.
jy1988;842248644 said:
How would you feel if someone decided to put a 20 story building on Bancroft high enough to block the view of the Bay from many parts of Memorial Stadium? Not saying I am for or against the hotel downtown, but you can see how some might be upset at ruining any balance between existing structures/skyline and new small towers going up.
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248645 said:
I'm fine with a hotel and museum there but that looks way out of scale. Successful downtowns don't have to be made up of high-rises.
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248657 said:
Part of the charm of Center Street is the pedestrian scale and sunlight and you can actually see the sky. There are exceptions but successful pedestrian areas are not usually found at the base of high rises.
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248657 said:
Part of the charm of Center Street is the pedestrian scale and sunlight and you can actually see the sky. There are exceptions but successful pedestrian areas are not usually found at the base of high rises.
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248672 said:
I agree about that. The ground floor is key. If it is just a bar and a hotel lobby, that would stink.
As far as sunlight, even the north side of buildings get some light. What might happen is some wind being funneled down to street level.
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248678 said:
My friends and I talk about Center St. a lot as we are Wurster Hall grads. A good friend of mine actually developed many of the tall, high density buildings and apartments in Berkeley.
My hope has always been for the north side of Center Street be almost a repeat of the south side, with the same street tree pattern and sidewalk width and some retail/restaurants. And hotel is fine. I'm just thinking 16 floors is a bit much.
socaliganbear;842248623 said:
Downtown Berkeley will be a completely different place in 5 years.
oskirules;842248682 said:
What do you think the chances are of closing off Center to vehicles and dayighting Strawberry Creek on that street and turning it into a plaza/green space?
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248657 said:
Part of the charm of Center Street is the pedestrian scale and sunlight and you can actually see the sky.
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248645 said:
Successful downtowns don't have to be made up of high-rises.
OneTopOneChickenApple;842248686 said:
Horrible idea. Strawberry Creek would become the biggest toilet in Berkeley. My old prof did the conceptual ideas for that. Recognize the creek somehow but you don't have to open it up.
Before this hotel idea came up, I thought a better green space would be a museum controlled pocket-park on the north side of Center right in the sunlight. Keep Center open for vehicles, but with pedestrian-friendly sidewalks.
