Would be psyched if we got Shannon. Didn't we beat him in the nut bowl? Maybe he respects us for that and is willing to take a chance.

Also, I agree with the idea of a DC being lured by the potential future of replacing Sonny if he flames out. I guess you'd have to convince the guy that he'd have a really good shot at the job if our defense is good and somehow Sonny still fails to find success here (which would really be threading the needle because hard to imagine us losing with a good defense - Sonny's offense will eventually come around).

I think English is a non-starter due to his homophobic rant. It sucks that we're talking basically about the same guys we were talking about last year, all of whom appear to be available and all of whom appear to have been available and preferable to Buh last season. I've said this elsewhere - but Sonny told us choosing the DC was his most important decision at Cal and he struck out looking on 3 pitches. No matter who he chooses this time, it will be tough to get over the headscratcher from last year.

jamonit;842257661 said:

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LOL at all these names... Why not list Kirby Smart as an option... More likely it will be a former DC who is a position coach somewhere or someone like Todd Orlando

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I wouldn't mind Orlando. He had success this past season as DC.

http://www.utahstateaggies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112713aab.html

Funny you mention position coach. Hawaii (another 11-loss team) snapped up Utah State's linebackers coach.

http://www.mwcconnection.com/football-5/2014/1/7/5286540/utah-state-kevin-clune-offered-defensive-coordinator-job-at-hawaii

Nick Aliotti.

Both have reasons to take the position for their futures. Cal was the worst defense in the country last year. The talent isn't great, but a great coach could make them respectable. If hired immediately, they might be able to upgrade that talent by signing day. For Ed, the chance to upset $C would convince the entire Trojan family that Haden made another really bad choice. One of my contacts, who is a big donor, said that big donors are really upset about the Sarkesian hire. Ed could still end up as $C's head coach if Sarkesian screws up again. He could also end up as Cal's head coach when/if Sonny is run out on a rail after this season. Wallker could also be Cal's future HC, if he builds a strong defense for the Bears. I hope either scenario works out. In any case the shake -up gives a chance to avoid another 1-11 season with Buh running the defense.:gobears:

What about Schiano?

cmfan64;842257682 said:

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Both have reasons to take the position for their futures. Cal was the worst defense in the country last year. The talent isn't great, but a great coach could make them respectable. If hired immediately, they might be able to upgrade that talent by signing day. For Ed, the chance to upset $C would convince the entire Trojan family that Haden made another really bad choice. One of my contacts, who is a big donor, said that big donors are really upset about the Sarkesian hire. Ed could still end up as $C's head coach if Sarkesian screws up again. He could also end up as Cal's head coach when/if Sonny is run out on a rail after this season. Wallker could also be Cal's future HC, if he builds a strong defense for the Bears. I hope either scenario works out. In any case the shake -up gives a chance to avoid another 1-11 season with Buh running the defense.:gobears:

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Makes no sense to go to Cal to play second fiddle in this dumpster fire program. Two things could happen: one is he has success and so does the team. If that happens it solidifies Sonny not him. The second thing that could happen is the beatings continue. Do you think any AD would promote the DC of a two or three win team to head coach? No there are a lot better ways of becoming a head coach than that. It's lose, lose

KoreAmBear;842257673 said:

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I wouldn't mind Orlando. He had success this past season as DC.

http://www.utahstateaggies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112713aab.html

Funny you mention position coach. Hawaii (another 11-loss team) snapped up Utah State's linebackers coach.

http://www.mwcconnection.com/football-5/2014/1/7/5286540/utah-state-kevin-clune-offered-defensive-coordinator-job-at-hawaii

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Orlando looks a lot like jimmy harbaugh!

And, OF COURSE, Gus Malzahn would have jumped at the chance to come to Cal over Auburn.....

UrsaMajor;842257699 said:

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And, OF COURSE, Gus Malzahn would have jumped at the chance to come to Cal over Auburn.....

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:bluecarrot:

NJCalFan;842257685 said:

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What about Schiano?

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Schiano might yell at some of these guys and they would leave.

:rant

KoreAmBear;842257673 said:

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I wouldn't mind Orlando. He had success this past season as DC.

http://www.utahstateaggies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112713aab.html

Funny you mention position coach. Hawaii (another 11-loss team) snapped up Utah State's linebackers coach.

http://www.mwcconnection.com/football-5/2014/1/7/5286540/utah-state-kevin-clune-offered-defensive-coordinator-job-at-hawaii

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Orlando would be great... Actually I think I like him more than anyone. They were ranked 12th in total defense, but they had more plays run against them than the other teams ranked above and were actually 5th in yards per play. He has a lot of experience also as a DC

Vandalus;842257694 said:

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Orlando looks a lot like jimmy harbaugh!

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Looks more like Kyle Boller to me.

The only thing I can add is the it would be nice to get a DC with Pac12 experience, something beyond a year at Furd. At least then they'd have an idea what they're up against, unlike the current staff. My vote is Walker.

beelzebear;842257727 said:

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The only thing I can add is the it would be nice to get a DC with Pac12 experience, something beyond a year at Furd. At least then they'd have an idea what they're up against, unlike the current staff. My vote is Walker.

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Is Walker still with the Jaguars?...Isn't that where he went after New Mexico?

Cal_Fan2;842257739 said:

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Is Walker still with the Jaguars?...Isn't that where he went after New Mexico?

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Yup, I think he'd make the move too. DC in the Pac is better than DB coach for a really sucky team...oh wait, that's Cal too. OMG!

Okay, if he's smart he might take the job on the premiss he might be inline for interim down the line. I'd rather have Dykes just turn it around but the smart money is be prepared for everything.

:newnana::bravo:beer::cheer:gobears::Lindsay

UrsaMajor;842257699 said:

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And, OF COURSE, Gus Malzahn would have jumped at the chance to come to Cal over Auburn.....

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From the peanut gallery, where most of are sitting, I kinda like Walker as a candidate also. I noticed he coached at Cal for a couple of years, '96-'97. His credentials are good and the recruiting thing is so crucial. I believe we would see a remarkable improvement; after all we are coming from virtually the bottom. I still believe we have some good players and it looks like we are doing pretty well (all things considered) in this years' class.

Very disappointed that dykester didn't fire himself.

Vandalus;842257641 said:

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Why would Mason come here for the same position when he can stay with the furds in a much better situation?

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Right. Mason would have been an interesting HC candidate. Risky but great upside. I think he's got "it".

If you are good, why would you want to coach under dykes?

I'd rather it not be Manny _iaz, but looks like the connections are in place...

BeggarEd;842257373 said:

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Stole these from an Oregon blog speculating on replacements for Aliotti...

Randy Shannon -- Linebackers Coach (Arkansas)
Todd Orlando -- Defensive Coordinator (Utah State)
Clancy Pendergast -- Defensive Coordinator (USC)
John Neal -- Defensive Backs Coach (Oregon)

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Greg Robinson - former DC Texas and Cali boy.

manus;842257652 said:

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Proof?

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too old to be head coach

Vandalus;842257694 said:

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Orlando looks a lot like jimmy harbaugh!

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If you cannot beat um, join um.

I would have liked to look at Mike Elko, but he just left North Texas with the North Texas HC to Wake Forrest. I would also maybe look at the duo at Tulane Leon Washington and young up and comer Jon Sumrall

wifeisafurd;842257862 said:

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Greg Robinson - former DC Texas and Cali boy.

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His record as DC is somewhat interesting. On the one hand, Texas (to me) appeared to be a much better defense under him compared to Diaz, especially in that Oklahoma game. On the other hand, he was DC for 2 years at Michigan (lets face it, with better talent across the board vis a vis Cal) where his defenses were ranked 82nd and 110th in the country (9th and last in the big 10 respectively).

WildBear;842257356 said:

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No one who is any good will take this position bc Dykes is gone in 1-2 years. Too risky. Plus, you can't coach/play defense when the defense is on the field for 40 minutes a game.

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If that were true, that would probably eliminate at least 50% of the DC positions available in College FB.

Actually another name to watch out for would be Art Kaufman... That guy has turned around some defenses and is available after being let go just recently despite coaching the Cincinnati bearcats Def to the 9th best in FBS and 7th best average per play.

68great;842257978 said:

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If that were true, that would probably eliminate at least 50% of the DC positions available in College FB.

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If one looks at any coaches resume, well, he's been all "over the map." Just the nature of the beast.

It's funny how our NegaBears always have to put an anti-Cal/coaching staff stamp on their comments.

1947;842257829 said:

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If you are good, why would you want to coach under dykes?

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The Nattering Nabobs of Negativity have all found a welcome home on this Board.

Jeez, since Sonny is NOT going to be going anywhere for at least 2 more years (assuming that he has more than 1 win in 2014) why would some of the posters on this board even go to any games in 2014 or 2015. After all, it is a foregone conclusion for them that Sonny will fail ---- even after he has revamped a major part of the Defense.

Let's not get on board with trying to find a good DC, let's ridicule the idea that any good DC would be willing to work for Sonny.

Go Bears! Beat the Naysayers!

68great;842257985 said:

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The Nattering Nabobs of Negativity have all found a welcome home on this Board.

Jeez, since Sonny is NOT going to be going anywhere for at least 2 more years (assuming that he has more than 1 win in 2014) why would some of the posters on this board even go to any games in 2014 or 2015. After all, it is a foregone conclusion for them that Sonny will fail ---- even after he has revamped a major part of the Defense.

Let's not get on board with trying to find a good DC, let's ridicule the idea that any good DC would be willing to work for Sonny.

Go Bears! Beat the Naysayers!

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well the naysayers are right in that working for sonny is not an attractive job. you have a high pace offense that can make your defensive numbers look worse. you have a coach that may or may not be there for long. you have to still work with the old defensive coordinator as one of your position coaches.

now for the positive...both Sandy and Sonny, Sonny especially, have their jobs riding on whether or not they can fix the defense. so this is a very important hire. Its likely that Sandy is willing to give Dykes a lot of leeway as far as pay because if they dont get the defense fixed up, then they wont win. if we dont win, then Sandy has stadium funding problems due to continued dropping attendence. So maybe the job is somewhat unattractive, theres a good chance though that theyll be willing to pay a little more to make up for that though

Coaching is a high risk job period vis a vis longevity at any specific job. So I don't really think that factors in all that much. All that factors in is the candidates ability to get along with SD (face facts. SD is gonna let the DC do whatever the hell he wants on that side if the ball) and whether or not they consider Berkeley to be a place they could live/work for a year or two on the short end and longer otherwise. If SD holds to pattern it's gonna be someone he already has connections with. Like Diaz. Im hoping for Orlando or walker or Orgeron but I'm thinking it's someone more like diaz

moonpod;842257998 said:

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Coaching is a high risk job period vis a vis longevity at any specific job. So I don't really think that factors in all that much. All that factors in is the candidates ability to get along with SD (face facts. SD is gonna let the DC do whatever the hell he wants on that side if the ball) and whether or not they consider Berkeley to be a place they could live/work for a year or two on the short end and longer otherwise. If SD holds to pattern it's gonna be someone he already has connections with. Like Diaz. Im hoping for Orlando or walker or Orgeron but I'm thinking it's someone more like diaz

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My list - at the moment - would actually be more like:

1) Shannon
2) Walker
3) Orlando
4) Diaz

I believe that Randy Shannon would be a HOME RUN hire. I really do. He set Miami on the right path vastly improving their APR while he was there. During his time as DC there (for six years) defenses were truly terrific in essentially every single year. He has a LOT of coordinating experience and game calling experience.

During his time as HC they improved their record each year until his last year when he was fired for going 7-5. The year before he was fired they went 9-4. Hell, 7-5 at Cal would be a dream now.

He really is a good X's and O'x guy, has a proven track record on APR, and can actually recruit very well. Plus he can actually coordinate a defense.

I'm fine with some of the other names, but Shannon is my favorite. I still can't figure out why he has languished as an LB coach for several years now ... strange really, no?

moonpod;842257998 said:

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Coaching is a high risk job period vis a vis longevity at any specific job. So I don't really think that factors in all that much. All that factors in is the candidates ability to get along with SD (face facts. SD is gonna let the DC do whatever the hell he wants on that side if the ball) and whether or not they consider Berkeley to be a place they could live/work for a year or two on the short end and longer otherwise. If SD holds to pattern it's gonna be someone he already has connections with. Like Diaz. Im hoping for Orlando or walker or Orgeron but I'm thinking it's someone more like diaz

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What is Dykes' connection with Diaz exactly? I've heard this mentioned before but I'm not smart enough to recall when or if they worked together anywhere.

txwharfrat;842258003 said:

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My list - at the moment - would actually be more like:

1) Shannon
2) Walker
3) Orlando
4) Diaz

I believe that Randy Shannon would be a HOME RUN hire. I really do. He set Miami on the right path vastly improving their APR while he was there. During his time as DC there (for six years) defenses were truly terrific in essentially every single year. He has a LOT of coordinating experience and game calling experience.

During his time as HC they improved their record each year until his last year when he was fired for going 7-5. The year before he was fired they went 9-4. Hell, 7-5 at Cal would be a dream now.

He really is a good X's and O'x guy, has a proven track record on APR, and can actually recruit very well. Plus he can actually coordinate a defense.

I'm fine with some of the other names, but Shannon is my favorite. I still can't figure out why he has languished as an LB coach for several years now ... strange really, no?

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I would do cartwheels and backflips for shannon as well. From his wiki page:

During Shannon's six years as UM's defensive coordinator, his defenses ranked as follows in total defense nationally:

2001 6th
2002 7th
2003 2nd
2004 28th
2005 4th
2006 7th