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DID YOU KNOW? Dungy tried to hire Tedford as offensive coordinator in Tampa Bay. But, Dungy said, "(Tedford) wanted to stay in college, and that was the track he wanted to go on. He's a very good offensive coach, and they've got some weaponry there."

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http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/dungy-says-bucs-have-pieces-in-place/2160657

When your stock is up cash in. Too bad teddy crapped his own bed here. He was and is a good coach. I can see why others would want him around. I can also see why many of us don't.

Teddy made the mistake of falling in love with Cal, like many of us. Can't blame him for that or all the great stuff he did for Cal.

BTW, if you have the Tony Dungy stamp of approval, you're respected and well-regarded in the coaching fraternity, unlike with what seems to be 50% of Cal alumni FB fans.

In addition to the comments in this article, I've written a letter to every editor on this site asking them to correct their mistake (many hours ago).

So far, no luck.

http://www.bucsnation.com/2014/1/12/5301044/tony-dungy-tried-to-bring-jeff-tedford-to-the-buccaneers-in-the-1990s#comments

Tedhead94;842261540 said:

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When your stock is up cash in. Too bad teddy crapped his own bed here. He was and is a good coach. I can see why others would want him around. I can also see why many of us don't.

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His stock can't be that down if he's getting NFL OC jobs. Don't know his motivations or ideal scenario was after taking a year off, but maybe he didn't get any offers for HC that satisfied him, and instead of taking a job at, say, Wyoming, he can be an OC for a couple years, have some success, and in two years get another Cal-type HC gig in college.

wanderlust;842261633 said:

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His stock can't be that down if he's getting NFL OC jobs. Don't know his motivations or ideal scenario was after taking a year off, but maybe he didn't get any offers for HC that satisfied him, and instead of taking a job at, say, Wyoming, he can be an OC for a couple years, have some success, and in two years get another Cal-type HC gig in college.

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His stock is deinitely down . . . But as you aptly point out, not THAT down.

wanderlust;842261633 said:

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His stock can't be that down if he's getting NFL OC jobs. Don't know his motivations or ideal scenario was after taking a year off, but maybe he didn't get any offers for HC that satisfied him, and instead of taking a job at, say, Wyoming, he can be an OC for a couple years, have some success, and in two years get another Cal-type HC gig in college.

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His stock is down compared to where he was at the height of Cal's success. He could have become an NFL HC or the HC of a top flight program back in those days. He seems fortunate to have found an NFL OC gig at this point in his career.

SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA;842261658 said:

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His stock is down compared to where he was at the height of Cal's success. He could have become an NFL HC or the HC of a top flight program back in those days. He seems fortunate to have found an NFL OC gig at this point in his career.

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It is no surprise JT is getting a job, a good job. He's a good coach, and especially a good coach with NFL-calibre QBs. Whatever his failings at Cal (identifying QB talent, emotional connections with 19 year-olds, trying new offensive schemes he didn't fully understand) he not only has the chops but he is well regarded in NFL circles. Plus, don't underestimate how many additional chances an average FBS/NFL HC or BCS/NFL OC/DC gets to be successful in "different circumstances".

PS, love your avatar

Don'tDance;842261805 said:

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It is no surprise JT is getting a job, a good job. He's a good coach, and especially a good coach with NFL-calibre QBs. Whatever his failings at Cal (identifying QB talent, emotional connections with 19 year-olds, trying new offensive schemes he didn't fully understand) he not only has the chops but he is well regarded in NFL circles. Plus, don't underestimate how many additional chances an average FBS/NFL HC or BCS/NFL OC/DC gets to be successful in "different circumstances".

PS, love your avatar

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More than anything, his recruiting went to terd. We saw a culmination of 2-3 years of bottom of the barrel recruiting in 2013, and it's likely not over.

And I thought connecting with 19 year olds was his strength -- players loved him, right?

The dragging out of the stadium rebuild hurt us imo. In 2011 we essentially were always playing at a neutral site and had to shuttle the team everywhere for practice.

freshfunk;842261818 said:

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The dragging out of the stadium rebuild hurt us imo. In 2011 we essentially were always playing at a neutral site and had to shuttle the team everywhere for practice.

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Hurt us in what way? That didn't alter the trajectory of this program. Bad Recruiting, bad qbs, bad Olines, terrible coaching did

wanderlust;842261809 said:

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More than anything, his recruiting went to terd. We saw a culmination of 2-3 years of bottom of the barrel recruiting in 2013, and it's likely not over.

And I thought connecting with 19 year olds was his strength -- players loved him, right?

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Not true. Simply not true.

And how are or recruiting woes still tied to JT? :facepalm

wanderlust;842261809 said:

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More than anything, his recruiting went to terd. We saw a culmination of 2-3 years of bottom of the barrel recruiting in 2013, and it's likely not over.

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Really?

How do you explain probable NFL Rookie of the Year Keenan Allen, Bronco RB C.J. Anderson, and other NFL drafted players last year like Marc Anthony and Steve Williams? That's 4 players from last year's departing class (2 left early in Allen & Williams) in the NFL.

Bigelow, Kam Jackson, Richard Rodgers, Avery Sebastian, Chris McCain, and Deandre Coleman were all NFL-level talents on this year's team. Whether or not any of them make it is up to them or this year's coaches.

wanderlust;842261831 said:

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Hurt us in what way? That didn't alter the trajectory of this program. Bad Recruiting, bad qbs, bad Olines, terrible coaching did

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Try running a top flight college fb program out of double wide trailers planted on Witter field.

The weight room is trailer B. The film room is trailer C. Hot/cold tub, try the RSF.

You don't know $hit.

SchadenBear;842261852 said:

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Not true. Simply not true.

And how are or recruiting woes still tied to JT? :facepalm

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Let's have another debate about Tedford. We haven't had enough of those on this board.

SchadenBear;842261852 said:

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Not true. Simply not true.

And how are or recruiting woes still tied to JT? :facepalm

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Is that a serious question? Every RS Freshman, soph, Jr, Sr on the 2013 squad was TEdford's recruit. And in case you werne't sure, for 2014, every RS soph, Jr., Sr. will be Tedford's recruit (those that didn't transfer in or is a JC Dykes recruit, of course).

Is it that difficult to understand?

SchadenBear;842261857 said:

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Try running a top flight college fb program out of double wide trailers planted on Witter field.

The weight room is trailer B. The film room is trailer C. Hot/cold tub, try the RSF.

You don't know $hit.

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Nice. I honestly can't believe how one is using 2011 in-limbo season as a crutch for a lack of success thereafter.

jaccpot10;842261855 said:

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Really?

How do you explain probable NFL Rookie of the Year Keenan Allen, Bronco RB C.J. Anderson, and other NFL drafted players last year like Marc Anthony and Steve Williams? That's 4 players from last year's departing class (2 left early in Allen & Williams) in the NFL.

Bigelow, Kam Jackson, Richard Rodgers, Avery Sebastian, Chris McCain, and Deandre Coleman were all NFL-level talents on this year's team. Whether or not any of them make it is up to them or this year's coaches.

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You need not look at individuals who will be marginal if not short lived careers in the NFL (except Allen), simply look at the recruiting classes since 2009-2010, and look at where they are now and look at our current roster.

And the Bigs etc list from this year's team is a bit premature. They are all marginal NFL talents, if that, with the exception of maybe Rodgers. Allen is the only player in the first paragraph who will have a career. Plucking some winners out of a terrible group doesn't speak to the recruiting success, the whole of the group does. If you want to give credit to the staff for taking Maynard to get Allen, be my guest.

wanderlust;842261860 said:

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Is that a serious question? Every RS Freshman, soph, Jr, Sr on the 2013 squad was TEdford's recruit. And in case you werne't sure, for 2014, every RS soph, Jr., Sr. will be Tedford's recruit.

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That's player problems not recruiting problems. Genius.

SchadenBear;842261865 said:

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That's player problems not recruiting problems. Genius.

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meaning it's the player's fault they're no good, and that coaches just need to fill jerseys and it's on the players to produce without the necessary talent/skill set? I don't get how you're distinguishing a player/recruiting problem. It's the same. Getting players is recruiting.

wanderlust;842261871 said:

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meaning it's the player's fault they're no good, and that coaches just need to fill jerseys and it's on the players to produce without the necessary talent/skill set? I don't get how you're distinguishing a player/recruiting problem. It's the same. Getting players is recruiting.

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By most all metrics, JT recruited good players. Prove me otherwise.

SchadenBear;842261895 said:

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By most all metrics, JT recruited good players. Prove me otherwise.

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Tedford DID recruit good players. But it started going to terd. Evidence? Cal's roster/record in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. By 2012, it was no longer just about the QB preventing us from being respectable.

SchadenBear;842261895 said:

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By most all metrics, JT recruited good players. Prove me otherwise.

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By what NFL players? lol. Look at the roster. Sonny highlighted the mind-numbing stat in a presser of how few recruits form 2010 or so are making an impact.