http://blogs.seattletimes.com/huskyfootball/2014/02/03/ncaa-formally-closes-tosh-lupoi-case-no-penalties-handed-down/

I think this paves the way for his return to Cal.

hanky1;842275430 said:

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I think this paves the way for his return to Cal.[/QUOTE

This doesn't change the reported facts of how he left CAL a few years ago! CAL does not need him!

nope! flounder is about to pull a top 3 class in the pac 12 this year he says

Good for him. If he was falsely accused, I hope he can salvage his reputation. If he was guilty and got away this time...well, one reaps what one sows eventually. I can't say I know either way, and I can't say that I care too much at this point.

More importantly, I am curious what our coaching staff, including assignments, will be.

hanky1;842275430 said:

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I think this paves the way for his return to Cal.

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Unfortunately for Tosh, the "paving" needed to return to Cal (as you put it) happened to be on that bridge he blew up on his way out of Berkeley. I spoke to another football coaching staff member the week it all came down, and he told me that how Tosh left and the things he did on his way out, that "he didn't just burn the bridge, he firebombed the whole neighborhood..."

Tosh has issues at Cal that I don't think can be resolved for a long time, if ever.

DrDanger;842275485 said:

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Tosh has issues at Cal that I don't think can be resolved for a long time, if ever.

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Plus one. Tosh should never darken Cal football again. He did damage that can not and should not, be forgiven. IMHO...........

BEAST2324MODE;842275437 said:

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nope! flounder is about to pull a top 3 class in the pac 12 this year he says

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How would hiring the guy that sits atop the "Cal Football's Greatest Douchebags" chart improve things?

Tosh is garbage.

hanky1;842275430 said:

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I think this paves the way for his return to Cal.

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You need serious, long-term psychiatric therapy with probably some strong drugs and electro-shock thrown in.

Yeah - To$hgate probably matters to only a fairly small group but it matters TREMENDOUSLY to them - as they follow recruiting and understand the depth of the slimeball actions he took. Plus I think he would simply be hated by the rest of the staff - always looked at as a mercenary.

I wouldn't be surprised, however, for him to end up at USC next year.

What if the only thing from Cal hiring Tosh is Sandy? If she was ever let go, the possibility of him returning grew dramatically

Its the victim syndrome, tosh bent you over and youre now begging to take him back

Tosh speaks
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24429005/lupoi-talks-about-being-cleared-and-a-six-week-nightmare

I'd love to see him speak up openly about the allegations of his behavior before leaving Cal.

My guess: a lifetime of crickets on that front.

Players new and old want him back.
Fans and donors (read: rich fans) don't.

He may be a dirtbag but college football ain't a clean business. Every school cuts corners, does underhanded things. I don't condone his behavior but it is crazy to assume he did everything without others knowledge at Cal.

Recognize that To$h can be shady, give him a short leash, and bring him back. God knows how many years this last 12 months have already set back our program.

also, what's more shameful: us taking To$h back? or Louisville taking back Petrino?

beeasyed;842275925 said:

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Players new and old want him back.
Fans and donors (read: rich fans) don't.

He may be a dirtbag but college football ain't a clean business. Every school cuts corners, does underhanded things. I don't condone his behavior but it is crazy to assume he did everything without others knowledge at Cal.

Recognize that To$h can be shady, give him a short leash, and bring him back. God knows how many years this last 12 months have already set back our program.

also, what's more shameful: us taking To$h back? or Louisville taking back Petrino?

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What players want him back?

HaloBear;842275930 said:

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What players want him back?

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Hill, Fujita, Jordan, BTreggs, Barton, list goes on.

beeasyed;842275933 said:

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Hill, Fujita, Jordan, BTreggs, Barton, list goes on.

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Sweet.

Where can one find the Treggs quote?

Yuck.

That list convinces me lmao

socaltownie;842275624 said:

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Yeah - To$hgate probably matters to only a fairly small group but it matters TREMENDOUSLY to them - as they follow recruiting and understand the depth of the slimeball actions he took.

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The group that actually matters is probably smaller than you think. Tosh burned bridges with the internet forum crowd, the athletic department, the administration, and most importantly, Cal boosters. Let's be real, those of us obsessing over recruiting on BI don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Birgineau is already gone and who knows how long Barbour's tenure will last. But that last group has tremendous influence, resources, and the only turnover comes from members dying. I imagine it'll be a long, long time before boosters will donate big money to pay Tosh's salary.

beeasyed;842275925 said:

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Fans and donors (read: rich fans) don't.

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Have any wealthy donors actually opined? I doubt there's more than a 100 people total that give a **** who Tosh is or what he does, including if he was hired back at Cal.

HaloBear;842275922 said:

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I'd love to see him speak up openly about the allegations of his behavior before leaving Cal.

My guess: a lifetime of crickets on that front.

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I'm glad he didn't talk about Cal. I hope to just steer clear of Tosh's boat.

I would be fine hiring him at $180k so long as there was a $2million penalty if he leaves early or if he is found guilty of an NCAA infraction.

HaloBear;842275934 said:

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Sweet.

Where can one find the Treggs quote?

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Stated on Twitter. #BringToshBack

dchu101;842275940 said:

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The group that actually matters is probably smaller than you think. Tosh burned bridges with the internet forum crowd, the athletic department, the administration, and most importantly, Cal boosters. Let's be real, those of us obsessing over recruiting on BI don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Birgineau is already gone and who knows how long Barbour's tenure will last.
But that last group has tremendous influence, resources, and the football decision making dexterity of Al Davis in his final years.

fixed it.

HaloBear;842275922 said:

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I'd love to see him speak up openly about the allegations of his behavior before leaving Cal.

My guess: a lifetime of crickets on that front.

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to$h speak "openly" ... who would be foolish enough to believe anything he said. He got his $300K from uDuh. He can spend it for gas for his boat. Maybe some desperate HS around Seattle might hire him.

HaloBear;842275934 said:

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Sweet.

Where can one find the Treggs quote?

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all of these players have publicly said it on twitter. i'm sure it's cached and stored somewhere by Google.

SFBear2012;842275942 said:

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Have any wealthy donors actually opined? I doubt there's more than a 100 people total that give a **** who Tosh is or what he does, including if he was hired back at Cal.

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a resounding 'yes'.

Are we still debating whether or not to$h is returning? If so, we truly are delusional.

The NCAA interviewed Mike Davis, the accuser, at length, but he obviously was not able to come up with hard evidence that Tosh gave money to the athlete. That's the thing about cash; it's hard to document. The case may be closed for now, but where there's smoke, there's fire.

Something clearly very corrupt happened at the 2012 Army AA game, one week before Tosh left for UW. Neither Payton nor McCarthy were ever going to Cal, but Tosh did something to make them say so on national TV - who knows how? Then the manner in which he left - telling Shaq Thompson not to go to Cal on an official home visit, and then telling Tedford he was leaving via a text message - showed a tremendous lack of character. He will never be re-hired by Cal.

If he coaches again in the Pac 10, I think it will be at WSU or maybe Colorado. The top programs can get better people without Tosh's baggage.

If for some reason Sark wants to hire him, I would bet that Pat Haden will veto it. Why take a chance, when the program is trying to get out from underneath their probation?

beeasyed;842275925 said:

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Players new and old want him back.
Fans and donors (read: rich fans) don't.

He may be a dirtbag but college football ain't a clean business. Every school cuts corners, does underhanded things. I don't condone his behavior but it is crazy to assume he did everything without others knowledge at Cal.

Recognize that To$h can be shady, give him a short leash, and bring him back. God knows how many years this last 12 months have already set back our program.

also, what's more shameful: us taking To$h back? or Louisville taking back Petrino?

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Some of you people would sell your souls to the devil to get Lupoi back. Face it, Todd is a malignant cancer and no amount of chemotherapy is going to change that!

rrhea;842276661 said:

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The NCAA interviewed Mike Davis, the accuser, at length, but he obviously was not able to come up with hard evidence that Tosh gave money to the athlete. That's the thing about cash; it's hard to document. The case may be closed for now, but where there's smoke, there's fire.

Something clearly very corrupt happened at the 2012 Army AA game, one week before Tosh left for UW. Neither Payton nor McCarthy were ever going to Cal, but Tosh did something to make them say so on national TV - who knows how? Then the manner in which he left - telling Shaq Thompson not to go to Cal on an official home visit, and then telling Tedford he was leaving via a text message - showed a tremendous lack of character. He will never be re-hired by Cal.

If he coaches again in the Pac 10, I think it will be at WSU or maybe Colorado. The top programs can get better people without Tosh's baggage.

If for some reason Sark wants to hire him, I would bet that Pat Haden will veto it. Why take a chance, when the program is trying to get out from underneath their probation?

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LOI day ... and to$h is probably on his boat, drinking alone, unemployed. :bravo