how much longer will it before ... things are set in place ...

i thought sonny said on LOI day couple more weeks ...

Yeah, I was giving it until tomorrow. That said, I'm sure SD knows what he wants to do. He just has to go through the process at Cal. If there are coaching changes they need to happen soon so the staff can prepare for Spring Ball. That is the deadline............

going4roses;842284317 said:

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how much longer will it before ... things are set in place ...

i thought sonny said on LOI day couple more weeks ...

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at this point, the blame is no longer on SD or Sandy. it's on Buh. the sooner he walks away, the faster we can wrap it all up.

why would Buh walk away?

Because scrubbing urinals with your tongue sucks.

highest paid urinal scrubber that i am aware of

beeasyed;842284862 said:

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at this point, the blame is no longer on SD or Sandy. it's on Buh. the sooner he walks away, the faster we can wrap it all up.

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Buh now has a very demanding and experienced boss, a real DC.
If he can coach the LBs effectively, great.
If not, his boss will have conversations with him in which his role will be to listen, not talk.

SonOfCalVa;842284889 said:

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Buh now has a very demanding and experienced boss, a real DC.
If he can coach the LBs effectively, great.
If not, his boss will have conversations with him in which his role will be to listen, not talk.

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lol, Buh staying or not will have little to do with how effective he is at coaching LBs.

Buh isn't going to leave. Why would he leave the highest paying job he'll ever have.

It's called contract buyout. Looking at the larger picture, what is the cost of not putting the best defensive coaching staff in place, given reality? Wait another year or two and watch the football program unravel?

Then fire the coaching staff and start all over?

This does not seem to be a difficult decision to make.

Just saying......

dajo9;842284904 said:

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Buh isn't going to leave. Why would he leave the highest paying job he'll ever have.

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you think money is the be-all-end-all, huh? just create your own analogy of what it'd be like to be Buh in the workplace and it should be clear.

"Wait another year or two and watch the football program unravel?"


What do you mean "wait another year or two"? I thought we watched the football program unravel last year. Is there room for further unraveling?

beeasyed;842284890 said:

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lol, Buh staying or not will have little to do with how effective he is at coaching LBs.

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Is there anything in the WORLD about which you cannot post an almost incoherent negative response.

Buh's performance will be judged by his boss, not by a snot-dripping, snivelly BI poster like you.

I hope Buh does well and that the LBs are effective in the D schemes.

dajo9;842284904 said:

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Buh isn't going to leave. Why would he leave the highest paying job he'll ever have.

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IMO, both Cal and Buh are posturing right now. We dont want him here and he doesnt want to be here, but theyre looking for the right terms in which he leaves because he also doesnt want to give up the money that he is due. Id be very surprised if he is one of our coaches by the time spring ball comes around

SonOfCalVa;842285121 said:

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Is there anything in the WORLD about which you cannot post an almost incoherent negative response.

Buh's performance will be judged by his boss, not by a snot-dripping, snivelly BI poster like you.

I hope Buh does well and that the LBs are effective in the D schemes.

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how was my response negative? Buh, in fact, will likely not stay or walk based on how competent he is at coaching LBs. (and i actually think he's a decent LB coach) there are other things going on that are of greater importance.

if for some reason you can't comprehend anything i post b/c you imagine me to be a "snot-dropping, snivelly" poster, then you can read what GB725 posted below, saying something similar.

gobears725;842285124 said:

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IMO, both Cal and Buh are posturing right now. We dont want him here and he doesnt want to be here, but theyre looking for the right terms in which he leaves because he also doesnt want to give up the money that he is due. Id be very surprised if he is one of our coaches by the time spring ball comes around

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once again, SonofCal: Buh leaving or staying at this point has little to do with how competent he is at coaching LBs.

Golden One;842285094 said:

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"Wait another year or two and watch the football program unravel?"


What do you mean "wait another year or two"? I thought we watched the football program unravel last year. Is there room for further unraveling?

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Do you want to wait another year or two Negabear?

Golden One;842285094 said:

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"Wait another year or two and watch the football program unravel?"


What do you mean "wait another year or two"? I thought we watched the football program unravel last year. Is there room for further unraveling?

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There's always more room for unraveling. The past several years should have taught that to all cal fans.

im more concerned with spring practice starting(mar 31) and coaches not being set in place

... will this slow down D picking up new plays and schemes ? wonder if art has installed any plays yet

gobears725;842285124 said:

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IMO, both Cal and Buh are posturing right now. We dont want him here and he doesnt want to be here, but theyre looking for the right terms in which he leaves because he also doesnt want to give up the money that he is due. Id be very surprised if he is one of our coaches by the time spring ball comes around

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I actually think we're making progress on letting Buh go.

Word is, Sonny moved his office to the basement, and took his red stapler away and won't give it back.



Hopefully, Buh won't burn the place down on his way out the door.

beeasyed;842285134 said:

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how was my response negative? Buh, in fact, will likely not stay or walk based on how competent he is at coaching LBs. (and i actually think he's a decent LB coach) there are other things going on that are of greater importance.

if for some reason you can't comprehend anything i post b/c you imagine me to be a "snot-dropping, snivelly" poster, then you can read what GB725 posted below, saying something similar.



once again, SonofCal: Buh leaving or staying at this point has little to do with how competent he is at coaching LBs.

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We really need to slow down with the unnecessary roughness in our responses. I didn't think your original post was negative, and I can't understand why your post would warrant such a harsh response.

If we read between the lines on what Coach Dykes stated about Buh recently, it seems clear that we shouldn't expect Buh back next season.

He was less definitive about the future of Andy Buh, demoted last month from his role as defensive coordinator after the Bears’ 1-11 season. Two weeks ago, Dykes hired Art Kaufman to handle that assignment.

Asked specifically whether he expects Buh will be on the staff by next fall, Dykes said, “We’ll see. I don’t know. We’ll see.”

http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2014/02/06/football-coaching-position-assignments-on-defense-leave-cal-staff-still-unsettled/

Having said all that, I think we should show some respect to Buh...maybe not as a DC but as a fellow human being. He has a family to support and has people who depend on him. Although I want what is best for Cal football, I am not going to take any joy in what Buh has to go through right now, and I wish him only the best away from Cal football.

calbear93;842285162 said:

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We really need to slow down with the unnecessary roughness in our responses. I didn't think your original post was negative, and I can't understand why your post would warrant such a harsh response.

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thanks, cb93.

calbear93;842285162 said:

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Having said all that, I think we should show some respect to Buh...maybe not as a DC but as a fellow human being. He has a family to support and has people who depend on him. Although I want what is best for Cal football, I am not going to take any joy in what Buh has to go through right now, and I wish him only the best away from Cal football.

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while i will not resort to insulting Buh, i would like to acknowledge, that, on the flip side of Buh deserving respect is Cal and the hundreds of ppl affected by his inability to be DC, and his extremely generous salary.

HaasBear04;842285153 said:

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There's always more room for unraveling. The past several years should have taught that to all cal fans.

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True. I guess we could go 0-12, have open warfare in the locker room, fist fights among the coaching staff, and criminal charges filed against Sandy Barbour. This is Cal, after all.

Golden One;842285177 said:

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True. I guess we could go 0-12, have open warfare in the locker room, fist fights among the coaching staff, and criminal charges filed against Sandy Barbour. This is Cal, after all.

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If that's what it takes to have an AD at Cal whose background is revenue sports (Men's FB or BB), I'm all for it. I mean, when has Cal had such an AD? Cal has been primarily an Olympic, individual and women's sports school. IOWs, everything but men's revenue sports. I think there's a reason for that.

beeasyed;842285134 said:

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how was my response negative? Buh, in fact, will likely not stay or walk based on how competent he is at coaching LBs. (and i actually think he's a decent LB coach) there are other things going on that are of greater importance.

if for some reason you can't comprehend anything i post b/c you imagine me to be a "snot-dropping, snivelly" poster, then you can read what GB725 posted below, saying something similar.



once again, SonofCal: Buh leaving or staying at this point has little to do with how competent he is at coaching LBs.

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Using GB725 "imagining" something to support your position is positively pathetic.
If Buh coaches the LBs, I hope he does it well and is successful.

heartofthebear;842285185 said:

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If that's what it takes to have an AD at Cal whose background is revenue sports (Men's FB or BB), I'm all for it. I mean, when has Cal had such an AD? Cal has been primarily an Olympic, individual and women's sports school. IOWs, everything but men's revenue sports. I think there's a reason for that.

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I agree about the recent (not so recent, even) lack of AD expertise in the revenue sports, but to say that "Cal has been primarily an Olympic, individual and women's sports school" might be taking it a bit far, considering we're paying our hoops coach 1.5, our football coach 2.0+ (average over the past 3 years) and have sunk hundreds of millions into facilities for revenue sports over the past 15 years.

We're trying. We're just not succeeding.

SonOfCalVa;842285189 said:

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Using GB725 "imagining" something to support your position is positively pathetic.

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why don't you ask someone who's more connected to the program to confirm it then? maybe MB would like to chime in and confirm your opinion that Buh's job is ONLY contingent on what Kaufman thinks of his LB coaching abilities?

what is actually pathetic is your insults as replies to most of my posts these days. nobody seems to have a problem with my posts except you, and mizery--well with that handle, go figure.. (disappointing that MB has suddenly been so quiet about persistent character attacks)

SonOfCalVa;842285189 said:

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If Buh coaches the LBs, I hope he does it well and is successful.

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as does everyone on this board. as everyone wishes every coach and staff in the history of Cal football to do well. fantastic conclusion.

calbear93;842285162 said:

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Having said all that, I think we should show some respect to Buh...maybe not as a DC but as a fellow human being. He has a family to support and has people who depend on him. Although I want what is best for Cal football, I am not going to take any joy in what Buh has to go through right now, and I wish him only the best away from Cal football.

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I've met Buh when he was here on a recruiting trip, and he is a solid, humble guy. I do think he was in over his head as DC for a team like ours in a conference like ours, but he is a good man. When I heard him say on The Drive "I'm sorry" to Sonny during one of our blowouts, besides being angry about the blowout itself LOL, I felt for him. It was nice of Sonny to tell him to stop saying that and to be positive.

You know he was feeling it a thousand times more than we were. I think he has two young children, so yes, we should respect him as a person who I believe tried his best. Like beeasyed said, he may very well be a good LB coach if that's all he had to do.

heartofthebear;842285185 said:

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If that's what it takes to have an AD at Cal whose background is revenue sports (Men's FB or BB), I'm all for it. I mean, when has Cal had such an AD?

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Not in the past 50 years, at least.

calbear93;842285162 said:

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We really need to slow down with the unnecessary roughness in our responses. I didn't think your original post was negative, and I can't understand why your post would warrant such a harsh response.

If we read between the lines on what Coach Dykes stated about Buh recently, it seems clear that we shouldn't expect Buh back next season.

He was less definitive about the future of Andy Buh, demoted last month from his role as defensive coordinator after the Bears' 1-11 season. Two weeks ago, Dykes hired Art Kaufman to handle that assignment.

Asked specifically whether he expects Buh will be on the staff by next fall, Dykes said, "We'll see. I don't know. We'll see."

http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2014/02/06/football-coaching-position-assignments-on-defense-leave-cal-staff-still-unsettled/

Having said all that, I think we should show some respect to Buh...maybe not as a DC but as a fellow human being. He has a family to support and has people who depend on him. Although I want what is best for Cal football, I am not going to take any joy in what Buh has to go through right now, and I wish him only the best away from Cal football.

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^ reasonable post...Despite a dismal defensive performance last year, many of the boys on the team respected and liked coach Buh. I can certainly understand why it's easy to be critical of him with last year's performance and his hefty salary. That said, why not move on and if he comes back as LB coach we support him and if not we wish him well..

beeasyed;842285193 said:

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why don't you ask someone who's more connected to the program to confirm it then? maybe MB would like to chime in and confirm your opinion that Buh's job is ONLY contingent on what Kaufman thinks of his LB coaching abilities?

what is actually pathetic is your insults as replies to most of my posts these days. nobody seems to have a problem with my posts except you, and mizery--well with that handle, go figure.. (disappointing that MB has suddenly been so quiet about persistent character attacks)




as does everyone on this board. as everyone wishes every coach and staff in the history of Cal football to do well. fantastic conclusion.

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There's no point beeas . . . Your just feeding the beast.