....500 lbs.

That's one strong Bear!

https://instagr.am/p/licCOHub2b

If he doesn't see significant playing time this year...I'll be surprised.


:gobears:

Holy sh$t!

TK is not playing ...

seems like TK could've gone heavier on that max. looks promising!

i remember Trent Richardson squatting 600+. hope we develop some monsters.

gocalbear;842292711 said:

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Holy sh$t!

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Speaking of Holy sh$t, after seeing that, I googled world record squat and these guys in in the 1200# range!!!
Congrats to TK though for his personal best.

RighteousGoldenBear;842292705 said:

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....500 lbs.

That's one strong Bear!

https://instagr.am/p/licCOHub2b

If he doesn't see significant playing time this year...I'll be surprised.


:gobears:

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Hope that transfers into the type of strength in muscle groups that will allow him to move or control LOS with the proper pad level.

I'm most glad that this was a legit squat. So often you hear of big squat numbers, but when you actually see the person squat, they go down about 25%. I never believe a squat number until I see it.

This was a full squat - even past 90 degrees. Well done.

As a 5' 7" asian guy in high school...

beeasyed;842292729 said:

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seems like TK could've gone heavier on that max. looks promising!

i remember Trent Richardson squatting 600+. hope we develop some monsters.

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And it's only spring... By Fall it could go up 10% to 550

tommie317;842292739 said:

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As a 5' 7" asian guy in high school...

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It's because of your short legs.

rep'd it outside the cage too, impressive trust in your spotters while going for a PR. Looked like he had more in him too, the 500 came right back up without any hitch. I just started powerlifting about 6 months ago, 500# is my goal, and I'm well over half way there, but this is the easy part of the journey, gains get much tougher once you get over 350. Great job by the kid, 550 is right around the corner for him

Decent weight for a guy his size but it's nothing remarkable or special...especially for a football player.

Doesn't he weigh like 300 lbs? 500lb is like a norm if not below average for D-linemen weighing his size.


A guy like Bama's Richardson squatting 600+ lbs, now that's pretty damn good.

Ok that's great he can squat 500 lbs. The question is can he tackle the QB, after he throws the offensive lineman trying to block him and before the QB runs for his life or throws the ball away?

MoragaBear;842293127 said:

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Squatting 500 in free weights is nowhere near below average for a 300 lb player.

Personally, I don't draw much from this stuff. I just watch it and hope he doesn't blow out a knee.

I'd rather see more reps at a lighter weight than a max using critical joints with free weights.

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Exactly. Development of the entire core and flexibility as well.
DL need to be able to move as technique is more important than lifting excessive weight. They can get "strong" in better ways and doing more useful reps.

MoragaBear;842293127 said:

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Squatting 500 in free weights is nowhere near below average for a 300 lb player.

Personally, I don't draw much from this stuff. I just watch it and hope he doesn't blow out a knee.

I'd rather see more reps at a lighter weight than a max using critical joints with free weights.

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I disagree, a 500 1RM @ 300 pounds isnt really that impressive. With that being said, he isnt a powerlifter, but if you said 500 @ 300 pounds is nowhere near below average for a player, than what is average? I mean that is already a pretty low number.

If you look around the interwebz you'll find a lot of guys much smaller who rep ATG with that weight.

Guy at 167 pounds:


Guy at ~240? pounds repping 500 for 15


Also, since you have more access to the training program than I, correct me if Im wrong, but I doubt they train solely in the 1RM max range as football players. Not even powerlifters train solely in the 1RM range, some never even go above 90% until a meet.

CALigulabob;842293154 said:

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I disagree, a 500 1RM @ 300 pounds isnt really that impressive. With that being said, he isnt a powerlifter, but if you said 500 @ 300 pounds is nowhere near below average for a player, than what is average? I mean that is already a pretty low number.

If you look around the interwebz you'll find a lot of guys much smaller who rep ATG with that weight.

Guy at 167 pounds:


Guy at ~240? pounds repping 500 for 15


Also, since you have more access to the training program than I, correct me if Im wrong, but I doubt they train solely in the 1RM max range as football players. Not even powerlifters train solely in the 1RM range, some never even go above 90% until a meet.

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S&C isn't about power lifting. If a guy lifts 700# but can't get off blocks or is pushed back, what good is it?
What people want to see is dominance of DTs at the LOS, regardless of how much weight is or is not lifted.

Will Kelly's (and other DTs) S&C, power lifting and other, result in him (them) being double or triple-teamed, with LBs able to stuff opponents running? Maybe our DTs will be able to shove the C or G back into the QB's face.
Quick outs by the opponent is the measure, as well as non-quick outs by our O due to improved OL play and a vastly improved running game by us.
But that's in the future.

SonOfCalVa;842293163 said:

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S&C isn't about power lifting. If a guy lifts 700# but can't get off blocks or is pushed back, what good is it?
What people want to see is dominance of DTs at the LOS, regardless of how much weight is or is not lifted.

Will Kelly's (and other DTs) S&C, power lifting and other, result in him (them) being double or triple-teamed, with LBs able to stuff opponents running? Maybe our DTs will be able to shove the C or G back into the QB's face.
Quick outs by the opponent is the measure, as well as non-quick outs by our O due to improved OL play and a vastly improved running game by us.
But that's in the future.

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Thanks, thats what I was wondering. I only know it from the powerlifting/Olympic lifting side of things, and know nothing from the football side as MB and others on here might know.

I figured though that the S&C focuses on explosion and power, which probably encompasses more Olympic lifts than powerlifting. But, I have to admit, when I saw the video I thought, "thats it?". Not in the slightest disrespect to him, but I figured 300 pound DI football players would be in the 550-600 pound range on Squats.

Although now that I think about it, the "conditioning" part of S&C probably doesn't allow enough recovery for these guys to be squatting @ high intensity week in and out, so squats probably wont be as high as I'd imagine.

CALigulabob;842293154 said:

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I disagree, a 500 1RM @ 300 pounds isnt really that impressive. With that being said, he isnt a powerlifter, but if you said 500 @ 300 pounds is nowhere near below average for a player, than what is average? I mean that is already a pretty low number.

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a few years ago, Nebraska's linemen were averaging 480-500 lb squats. they were considered one of the finest S&C programs. i'm sure that number has since gone up over time, but the fact remains that squatting 500 is a respectable number--especially when it is obvious Kelly could have maxed higher.

If it is a new personal record for Kelly, then that is awesome. Improvement is always a good thing. And it was great that his teammates were so pumped.

I concur with those posters who remind us that there is more to playing football than max lifts. But I also agree that 500 for a guy that big is nothing too impressive.

I was a 6'1, 235lb OG/LB in HS. I was never nearly good enough to play D-1. The best I got was an offer for some measly grant-in-aid at a D-III private school. It was an easy choice to turn them down and go to Cal as a normal student. But I squatted 400. I would expect someone so much better than me to be able to handle another 20%.

CALigulabob;842293167 said:

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Thanks, thats what I was wondering. I only know it from the powerlifting/Olympic lifting side of things, and know nothing from the football side as MB and others on here might know.

I figured though that the S&C focuses on explosion and power, which probably encompasses more Olympic lifts than powerlifting. But, I have to admit, when I saw the video I thought, "thats it?". Not in the slightest disrespect to him, but I figured 300 pound DI football players would be in the 550-600 pound range on Squats.

Although now that I think about it, the "conditioning" part of S&C probably doesn't allow enough recovery for these guys to be squatting @ high intensity week in and out, so squats probably wont be as high as I'd imagine.

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Great moniker !!!
I'd like to see our OL/DL, based on game play, earn a CALigula award for their nastiness and dominance.

:beer:

The Duke!;842293170 said:

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I was a 6'1, 235lb OG/LB in HS. I was never nearly good enough to play D-1. The best I got was an offer for some measly grant-in-aid at a D-III private school. It was an easy choice to turn them down and go to Cal as a normal student. But I squatted 400. I would expect someone so much better than me to be able to handle another 20%.

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i completely understand your point, but saying they may be "so much better" from a talent perspective, doesn't necessarily mean they're so much stronger by the same amount.

so many ppl in the world can put up huge numbers for lifts, but how many can play a d1 sport?

side note, always found it a little impressive how people with nearly the same height as me could put that much weight on their frames. i lift but stay scrawny.

Did you guys even count the weight? Seemed like 585 to me

MoragaBear;842293127 said:

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Squatting 500 in free weights is nowhere near below average for a 300 lb player.

Personally, I don't draw much from this stuff. I just watch it and hope he doesn't blow out a knee.

I'd rather see more reps at a lighter weight than a max using critical joints with free weights.

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Totally disagree about 500 being nowhere near below average for a 300lb BCS-level football dude. That's laughable.

Agree with everyone that more strength =/= better player.

beeasyed;842293176 said:

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i lift but stay scrawny.

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Do you want to go up? Try running.

I was 6'3" 185# and was stuck on a plateau. Then, I read that Alexeyev (Russian Super Hvywt champ) increased his squat pb by running. So, I started running 3 miles after each lifting session. Within 2 months, I was up to 325# X 4 squat. Other lifts went up, too. And, in 6 months had put on another 10# (of muscle, mostly).

a WR squatting 550 and a OL squatting 800.

https://www.nsca.com/uploadedFiles/NSCA/Resources/PDF/Membership/2012%20All%20American%20Book.pdf

Davidson;842293181 said:

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Did you guys even count the weight? Seemed like 585 to me

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I counted 5 plates of 45's so thats 450 pounds plus the bar, which is either 45 or 55, probably 55 though.

so either 495 or 505. Either way, good number with good form

Rushinbear;842293188 said:

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Do you want to go up? Try running.

I was 6'3" 185# and was stuck on a plateau. Then, I read that Alexeyev (Russian Super Hvywt champ) increased his squat pb by running. So, I started running 3 miles after each lifting session. Within 2 months, I was up to 325# X 4 squat. Other lifts went up, too. And, in 6 months had put on another 10# (of muscle, mostly).

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thanks. i'd been lifting in the morning and running after work

beeasyed;842293194 said:

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thanks. i'd been lifting in the morning and running after work

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You're not drinking enough beer

NYCGOBEARS;842293198 said:

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You're not drinking enough beer

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i guess shots of jameson don't pack as many calories... :beer:

but i wouldn't worry much about Kelly "only" squatting 500. not only does he have room to improve (and he will), 500 is a serviceable #. not every productive athlete has ridiculous lift stats.

now i'm wondering how much Jordan, Alualu, and our other NFL guys did while they were here.

CALigulabob;842293192 said:

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I counted 5 plates of 45's so thats 450 pounds plus the bar, which is either 45 or 55, probably 55 though.

so either 495 or 505. Either way, good number with good form

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Oic, i had counted 6 plates each side, its prolly 5

Keep in mind he's only been a D1 player for a few months... He will get stronger

kad02002;842292736 said:

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I'm most glad that this was a legit squat. So often you hear of big squat numbers, but when you actually see the person squat, they go down about 25%. I never believe a squat number until I see it.

This was a full squat - even past 90 degrees. Well done.

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Hope the S&C is watching these guys

mechaniCAL;842293211 said:

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Keep in mind he's only been a D1 player for a few months... He will get stronger

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well, he was at a dominant JC for 2 years so he should be at a higher level than other incoming frosh