http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:10730078


Great interview with Desean Jackson conducted by Stephen A. Smith. DJax discussed several topics including his purported ties to gangs in southern California, his relationship with Chip Kelly, how he felt in the immediate aftermath of being released by the Philadelphia Eagles, and addresses the public's misconception of him.

conservativebear;842300989 said:

---

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:10730078


Great interview with Desean Jackson conducted by Stephen A. Smith. DJax discussed several topics including his purported ties to gangs in southern California, his relationship with Chip Kelly, how he felt in the immediate aftermath of being released by the Philadelphia Eagles, and addresses the public's misconception of him.

---

I'm glad the NFLPA is stepping in and investigating the manner in which the Eagles cut Jackson. I think the media and public are biased against flamboyant black wide receivers. When they read about DeSean, they weren't judging him. They took all the baggage from guys like TO, Ochocinco, Moss, and other diva receivers and putting that on DeSean without paying any attention to the truth or sifting through the rhetoric spewed by an organization looking to take cover after releasing their best receiver coming off a career season despite no legal or other disciplinary issues. I hope the Redskins stomp the crap out of the Eagles and take back the division.

YuSeeBerkeley;842301067 said:

---

I'm glad the NFLPA is stepping in and investigating the manner in which the Eagles cut Jackson. I think the media and public are biased against flamboyant black wide receivers. When they read about DeSean, they weren't judging him. They took all the baggage from guys like TO, Ochocinco, Moss, and other diva receivers and putting that on DeSean without paying any attention to the truth or sifting through the rhetoric spewed by an organization looking to take cover after releasing their best receiver coming off a career season despite no legal or other disciplinary issues. I hope the Redskins stomp the crap out of the Eagles and take back the division.

---

its not all rhetoric. the guy is a diva WR. hes self centered, arrogant and ive watched him get in trouble for some of his celebrations. he just got cut after a career year. something is up. some of the rumors thrown around about him are probably true, but the same probably goes for a good number of nfl players. i doubt desean is much different. he probably has some friends in a gang, hes from LBP, but i bet the ties to them were blown out of proportion

YuSeeBerkeley;842301067 said:

---

I'm glad the NFLPA is stepping in and investigating the manner in which the Eagles cut Jackson. I think the media and public are biased against

• flamboyant black wide receivers.
  

When they read about DeSean, they weren't judging him. They took all the baggage from guys like TO, Ochocinco, Moss, and other diva receivers and putting that on DeSean without paying any attention to the truth or sifting through the rhetoric spewed by an organization looking to take cover after releasing their best receiver coming off a career season despite no legal or other disciplinary issues. I hope the Redskins stomp the crap out of the Eagles and take back the division.

---

more like black people with any money that do not act like" good boys and girls"

but hey its the USA duh

ill say this for him to grow up in that area and not get put on gang file is an almost miracle and really is telling to me

and from that the eagles should have had a better idea about him, whom did they pay to investigate , all they had to do was release him and keep it moving

DeSean came across as well spoken, calm and reasonable. My impression was that every question was screened in advance. nonetheless, I believe that the Eagles made a BIG mistake, and that Washington will win the division.

I felt really bad for him when Stephen A. forces him to elaborate on how he felt when he got cut. You can see the pain in DeSean's face. I think he did a great job presenting himself.

going4roses;842301083 said:

---

more like black people with any money that do not act like" good boys and girls"

but hey its the USA duh

ill say this for him to grow up in that area and not get put on gang file is an almost miracle and really is telling to me

---

Agreed. I grew up in Inglewood but had a large part of my family in the Poly crowd. I think their reaction is similar to mine, "wtf are gang affiliations???" I don't think there is a successful black man/woman from the LA hood that doesn't have them to some extent... I'd like clarification as well. It just seems like a paper thin excuse.

Just another tale about how a change of scenery is good, not only for the team, but also the player. Next story….

We may have a black man as President, but a lot of people in this country are still playing the "fear" card. He delivers for his team, puts up crazy numbers, and stays clean is still not enough. Eagles should have at least been honest and say it was about the money. Its ALWAYS about the money.

I think it is fascinating how so many are willing to fill in the blanks about what went on to suit their own biases.

There are usually two sides to each story, but many seem to be assuming (1) that the Eagles were the source of the gang association story; (2) that Desean was cut because of some wrong reason; and (3) that the Eagles are covering up some bad reason to cut him through character assassination. Why assume that the Eagles and the media are malicious or acting in bad faith and that Desean is misunderstood any more than the reverse?

It may well be that the Eagles and media are in the wrong here. Perhaps more verifiable facts will be forthcoming on the backstory, perhaps not. On the known facts we have no freaking idea, but some of you are apparently willing to hate the Eagles and cheer on the [insert racist Native American mascot here] based on your suppositions.

Here is more to the story, some of which is the kind of unattributed sourcing that doesn't prove much, but at least presents another more simple and less malicious basis for parting ways--Occam's Razor and all that...

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/five_things_desean_jackson_and_stephen_a_smith_got_wrong.html
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/desean_jackson_cussed_out_chip_kelly_several_times_was_blatantly_insubordinate_with_eagles_according.html#incart_river


I will say that the Eagles are in a bind because anything they were to say negatively about Desean would be viewed as throwing poor Desean under the bus. This is true in most employment situations. In my experience, when an employee is fired, the employer generally does not run around the company telling everyone what bad things the employee did to deserve getting fired. But the employee often does run around defending him/herself and slandering the company. It is not an even playing field. (I reveal my own bias here as an employer and representative of employers at times.)

Desean has given me some of the highest of highs watching the Bears and even that Eagles game against the Giants when he ran that punt back on the last play. I truly wish him the best on the rest of his career. But I will not let my blue and gold glasses cause me to reflexively defend Desean when the facts are not known. If he did cuss out Kelly on multiple occasions in front of the team, and the Eagles had no idea about gang association and were not the source of that story, would your opinion change?

MSaviolives;842301169 said:

---

If he did cuss out Kelly on multiple occasions in front of the team, and the Eagles had no idea about gang association and were not the source of that story, would your opinion change?

---

Not at all. First of all, it's been established that the Eagles knew about his friend's past a few years back. Also, if it's the case that Kelly wanted him out because he cussed him out and couldn't manage him then they should have just sacked up and said so.

I'm inclined to believe that the stories of alleged confrontations is just more bs from the front office trying to save face.

wanderingbear82;842301145 said:

---

Agreed. I grew up in Inglewood but had a large part of my family in the Poly crowd. I think their reaction is similar to mine, "wtf are gang affiliations???" I don't think there is a successful black man/woman from the LA hood that doesn't have them to some extent... I'd like clarification as well. It just seems like a paper thin excuse.

---

Same thing is happening with "Shrimp Boy" in the Leland Yee case. If you grew up in SF during a certain time, there's a good chance you may know him one way or another. It turns out I know a few who know the guy, and they're not Asian or Chinese or gangsters or gun runners. Nope, they just happen to go the same schools, know the same people and live in the area. Imagine if people got screened for jobs under this premiss. Just crazy.

SoCalBear323;842301171 said:

---

Not at all. First of all, it's been established that the Eagles knew about his friend's past a few years back. Also, if it's the case that Kelly wanted him out because he cussed him out and couldn't manage him then they should have just sacked up and said so.

I'm inclined to believe that the stories of alleged confrontations is just more bs from the front office trying to save face.

---

tell it like it f*cking is. tipping off the authorities and encouraging a hit piece that coincides exactly with Jackson being cut is disgusting. Kelly and the Eagles management make me sick.

MSaviolives;842301169 said:

---

I think it is fascinating how so many are willing to fill in the blanks about what went on to suit their own biases.

There are usually two sides to each story, but many seem to be assuming (1) that the Eagles were the source of the gang association story; (2) that Desean was cut because of some wrong reason; and (3) that the Eagles are covering up some bad reason to cut him through character assassination. Why assume that the Eagles and the media are malicious or acting in bad faith and that Desean is misunderstood any more than the reverse?

It may well be that the Eagles and media are in the wrong here. Perhaps more verifiable facts will be forthcoming on the backstory, perhaps not. On the known facts we have no freaking idea, but some of you are apparently willing to hate the Eagles and cheer on the [insert racist Native American mascot here] based on your suppositions.

Here is more to the story, some of which is the kind of unattributed sourcing that doesn't prove much, but at least presents another more simple and less malicious basis for parting ways--Occam's Razor and all that...

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/five_things_desean_jackson_and_stephen_a_smith_got_wrong.html
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/desean_jackson_cussed_out_chip_kelly_several_times_was_blatantly_insubordinate_with_eagles_according.html#incart_river


I will say that the Eagles are in a bind because anything they were to say negatively about Desean would be viewed as throwing poor Desean under the bus. This is true in most employment situations. In my experience, when an employee is fired, the employer generally does not run around the company telling everyone what bad things the employee did to deserve getting fired. But the employee often does run around defending him/herself and slandering the company. It is not an even playing field. (I reveal my own bias here as an employer and representative of employers at times.)

Desean has given me some of the highest of highs watching the Bears and even that Eagles game against the Giants when he ran that punt back on the last play. I truly wish him the best on the rest of his career. But I will not let my blue and gold glasses cause me to reflexively defend Desean when the facts are not known. If he did cuss out Kelly on multiple occasions in front of the team, and the Eagles had no idea about gang association and were not the source of that story, would your opinion change?

---

Spot on. We don't know who the source of the gang affiliations story is. I would say that this is the kind of decision that could end careers... so I'm pretty sure the Eagles thought it through.

One other point, it's not like Desean was on a rookie contract. He was going to make $10.25 million this year for Philly, nearly 50% more than he made the previous year. He also had a lot of money out there the next 2 years and hardly any of it was guaranteed. There is a reason the Eagles just cut him and did not trade him. Based on production alone, I disagree with the decision to cut him. However, cutting him was not that absurd. More importantly, if there were other locker room issues as has been alleged, I completely agree with cutting him.

manus;842301150 said:

---

Just another tale about how a change of scenery is good, not only for the team, but also the player. Next story.

---

Just the NFL being the NFL, which is why I don't care or watch.
Tebow, too religious, to Vick, convicted criminal. Just about $$$$$.
These days players come and go, and most play less than 3 years.

It's been a long time since the Christopher Milk Club kids at Kezar, waiting with friends and players' wives outside the arena, after the 49ers games ... and enjoying when the wives chewed out the players for trying to avoid us kids who hoped for autographs. All the players needed "day jobs" after the season finished, from pro wrestling (Nomellini) to politician (St. Clair).

MSaviolives;842301169 said:

---

I think it is fascinating how so many are willing to fill in the blanks about what went on to suit their own biases.

There are usually two sides to each story, but many seem to be assuming (1) that the Eagles were the source of the gang association story; (2) that Desean was cut because of some wrong reason; and (3) that the Eagles are covering up some bad reason to cut him through character assassination. Why assume that the Eagles and the media are malicious or acting in bad faith and that Desean is misunderstood any more than the reverse?

It may well be that the Eagles and media are in the wrong here. Perhaps more verifiable facts will be forthcoming on the backstory, perhaps not. On the known facts we have no freaking idea, but some of you are apparently willing to hate the Eagles and cheer on the [insert racist Native American mascot here] based on your suppositions.

Here is more to the story, some of which is the kind of unattributed sourcing that doesn't prove much, but at least presents another more simple and less malicious basis for parting ways--Occam's Razor and all that...

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/five_things_desean_jackson_and_stephen_a_smith_got_wrong.html
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/desean_jackson_cussed_out_chip_kelly_several_times_was_blatantly_insubordinate_with_eagles_according.html#incart_river


I will say that the Eagles are in a bind because anything they were to say negatively about Desean would be viewed as throwing poor Desean under the bus. This is true in most employment situations. In my experience, when an employee is fired, the employer generally does not run around the company telling everyone what bad things the employee did to deserve getting fired. But the employee often does run around defending him/herself and slandering the company. It is not an even playing field. (I reveal my own bias here as an employer and representative of employers at times.)

Desean has given me some of the highest of highs watching the Bears and even that Eagles game against the Giants when he ran that punt back on the last play. I truly wish him the best on the rest of his career. But I will not let my blue and gold glasses cause me to reflexively defend Desean when the facts are not known. If he did cuss out Kelly on multiple occasions in front of the team, and the Eagles had no idea about gang association and were not the source of that story, would your opinion change?

---

if a if was a fifth we would all be drunk ... cal bear or not eagles could have handled the situation better ... 2010 gang stuff when did the eagles give him a new contract ... not a good mix kelly/djax fucking try to trade him not slander him then try you best to weasel out of bad pr

back to my point if he is not on gang file in LA county to me nothing really to consider no charges etc etc .. just slander .. they could have traded him got something in return and now the eagles look bad plus pending suit by nflpa .. not a a well thought out move by eagles

I gather this Sherman piece on DeSean has been posted somewhere but just in case. Think Sherman's perspective is relevant and insightful.

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/02/richard-sherman-desean-jackson/

going4roses;842301355 said:

---

if a if was a fifth we would all be drunk ... cal bear or not eagles could have handled the situation better ... 2010 gang stuff when did the eagles give him a new contract ... not a good mix kelly/djax fucking try to trade him not slander him then try you best to weasel out of bad pr

back to my point if he is not on gang file in LA county to me nothing really to consider no charges etc etc .. just slander .. they could have traded him got something in return and now the eagles look bad plus pending suit by nflpa .. not a a well thought out move by eagles

---

Why do you assume that the Eagles did not try to trade him? What would be their reason not to try and get some value instead of just cutting him?
If they tried to trade him and couldn't, what does that say?
Why do you assume that the Eagles "slandered" him?
Why do you reject the New Jersey Star Ledger's statement that the Eagles had nothing to do with their investigation and story about the gang thing?
Here's what they said:

Quote:

---

The conspiracy theories surrounding the story are comical. NJ.com uncovered Jackson's ties to alleged gang members through its own reporting. The Eagles played no part in NJ.com's investigation. When asked about Jackson's alleged gang ties, team officials said they were unaware of the ties and would not comment.

---

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/five_things_desean_jackson_and_stephen_a_smith_got_wrong.html
Also, if Desean did cuss out the coach in front of the team three times, is it "slander" to say so if the Eagles were falsely accused of cutting him (1) just to save money or (2) because of the gang issue?
Do the Eagles owe it to Desean to keep quite if he cussed out Kelly and missed meetings?
If there was the cussing and missed meetings, does Desean's have any responsibility for his actions?
Is it really on the Eagles to "manage" the situation and it is their fault if word gets out?
Still lots of assumptions and pronounced judgment based on such assumptions. Seems like you might be ifing a little yourself...
You could be absolutely correct in your assumptions, and perhaps you have seen reported facts that I am not aware of, but I have no idea and I tend not to assume malice in most situations.

MSaviolives;842301399 said:

---

Why do you assume that the Eagles did not try to trade him? What would be their reason not to try and get some value instead of just cutting him?
If they tried to trade him and couldn't, what does that say?
Why do you assume that the Eagles "slandered" him?
Why do you reject the New Jersey Star Ledger's statement that the Eagles had nothing to do with their investigation and story about the gang thing?
Here's what they said:
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/04/five_things_desean_jackson_and_stephen_a_smith_got_wrong.html
Also, if Desean did cuss out the coach in front of the team three times, is it "slander" to say so if the Eagles were falsely accused of cutting him (1) just to save money or (2) because of the gang issue?
Do the Eagles owe it to Desean to keep quite if he cussed out Kelly and missed meetings?
If there was the cussing and missed meetings, does Desean's have any responsibility for his actions?
Is it really on the Eagles to "manage" the situation and it is their fault if word gets out?
Still lots of assumptions and pronounced judgment based on such assumptions. Seems like you might be ifing a little yourself...
You could be absolutely correct in your assumptions, and perhaps you have seen reported facts that I am not aware of, but I have no idea and I tend not to assume malice in most situations.

---

let me know ...

if he is not on gang file(amazing ) ... not a gang member .. no gang arrests...

you feel your way i feel my way ... push