Where do californians come from?

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GB54
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I thought this was a fascinating graphic by the NYT which tracks each state as to where the residents come from. For California the largest amount, 56%, are native Californians but the second category is foreign born, 28% which surprised me. I figured it would be high but almost three in ten? They have all the other states as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
SonOfCalVa
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GB54;842343026 said:

I thought this was a fascinating graphic by the NYT which tracks each state as to where the residents come from. For California the largest amount, 56%, are native Californians but the second category is foreign born, 28% which surprised me. I figured it would be high but almost three in ten? They have all the other states as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-regionion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


My family arrived in California in early 1850, settled initially in Tuolumne, 3rd generation SFer. Fascinating tiny, tiny diary from my great, great ... grandmother as she crossed the plains in a covered wagon, indian attacks and all.
GB54
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SonOfCalVa;842343034 said:

My family arrived in California in early 1850, settled initially in Tuolumne, 3rd generation SFer. Fascinating tiny, tiny diary from my great, great ... grandmother as she crossed the plains in a covered wagon, indian attacks and all.


Tuolumne, interesting. You forget that was all ag before Yosemite. You might be interested in John Muir's writings about that area
GATC
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Both grandparents came to California over 100 years ago and both my parents were born in California.
pingpong2
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GB54;842343026 said:

I thought this was a fascinating graphic by the NYT which tracks each state as to where the residents come from. For California the largest amount, 56%, are native Californians but the second category is foreign born, 28% which surprised me. I figured it would be high but almost three in ten? They have all the other states as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


Well, the 14 million Hispanic folk in this state didn't just fall out of the sky, so 28% isn't that surprising.
GB54
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pingpong2;842343045 said:

Well, the 14 million Hispanic folk in this state didn't just fall out of the sky, so 28% isn't that surprising.


True, but they all weren't born abroad. A lot are native Californians
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GB54;842343026 said:

I thought this was a fascinating graphic by the NYT which tracks each state as to where the residents come from. For California the largest amount, 56%, are native Californians but the second category is foreign born, 28% which surprised me. I figured it would be high but almost three in ten? They have all the other states as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-regionion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


Interesting how the ingress from other states has really shrunk in the last few decades for California. Now Nevada on the other hand is being overrun by Californians. Favorite bumper sticker up here :
"I Don't care how it was done in California"
SonOfCalVa
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NVGolfingBear;842343050 said:

Interesting how the ingress from other states has really shrunk in the last few decades for California. Now Nevada on the other hand is being overrun by Californians. Favorite bumper sticker up here :
"I Don't care how it was done in California"


Washington's contribution to xenophobia was "Don't Californicate Washington" and they complained when them furriners from down south would pay full asking prices (plus a tiny bit) for houses ... but the price difference between Los Altos and Edmonds was rather dramatic so it was easy to do to get a house in demand, with no loan contingency. They took the money.

Wonder if people in Texass and California who are anti-immigration ever pay attention to the names of the cities and places. :p
Dated a woman from Argentina for a while and she'd drive some people crazy with her pronunciation of names. She'd talk about going through San rof-eye-EL then I'd translate it to San ruh-FELL.
Some people in Washington really disliked the tribes but it never occurred to them to pay attention to all the names that were native based: Snoqualamie, Snohomish, etc. (including Seattle, itself).
bearister
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All four of my grandparents came from Ireland and settled in Oakland 100 years ago.
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SonOfCalVa;842343063 said:

Washington's contribution to xenophobia was "Don't Californicate Washington" and they complained when them furriners from down south would pay full asking prices (plus a tiny bit) for houses ... but the price difference between Los Altos and Edmonds was rather dramatic so it was easy to do to get a house in demand, with no loan contingency. They took the money.

Wonder if people in Texass and California who are anti-immigration ever pay attention to the names of the cities and places. :p
Dated a woman from Argentina for a while and she'd drive some people crazy with her pronunciation of names. She'd talk about going through San rof-eye-EL then I'd translate it to San ruh-FELL.
Some people in Washington really disliked the tribes but it never occurred to them to pay attention to all the names that were native based: Snoqualamie, Snohomish, etc. (including Seattle, itself).


Yes, Californians came to Nevada with their suitcases full of money, drove up the house prices to ridiculous heights only to have the deepest crash of any state when the bubble burst. Of course, the most hurt were the Californians who pushed up the prices and then took out HELOCs to buy the boats for Lake Tahoe. Crazy ride. From our original purchase price 12 years ago we went up just over 100% to down -25% to up about 10% now.
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NVGolfingBear;842343050 said:

Interesting how the ingress from other states has really shrunk in the last few decades for California.
That shrinkage of ingress is sharper than I thought.
Californians born in all other states:
1900: 29%
1920: 40%
1950: 52%
1960: 50%

1980: 39%
1990: 29%
2012: 18%

NVGolfingBear;842343050 said:

Now Nevada on the other hand is being overrun by Californians. Favorite bumper sticker up here :
"I Don't care how it was done in California"

The data weakens the notion stated by some here repeatedly that Californians have been leaving the state "at a similar rate as always."

Nevadans born in California:
1900: 7%
1940: 10%
1990: 15%
2012: 19%

Oregonians born in California:
1930: 2%
1970: 6%
1980: 11%
2012: 14%

Arizonans born in California:
1950: 3%
1990: 6%
2012: 9%

Utahns born in California:
1940: <1%
1970: 4%
2012: 8%

Washingtonians born in California:
1930: 1%
1970: 4%
2012: 8%

Coloradans born in California:
1950: 1%
1970: 3%
2012: 6%

And, Californians are not all moving to Florida for retirement (3% of Floridians are from *all* western states).
UrsusTexicanus
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Born in Illinois, then moved with rest of the family, (I was only a year old at the time and my opinion didn't count). I took a look at the Texas graph for comparison. I thought there would be more than 17% foreign born here. Looks like the foreign invasion some of our candidates for state office are foaming at the mouth about are figments of their imaginations, (as if that was a surprise). Anyway, my British born wife did her part to bump that number up. It would have been interesting if there was a breakdown of foreign born by country or at least regions of continents such as north or south Europe. For example, there was a large influx of Germans in Texas in the early 1900's, which is still reflected in a lot of place names. I think there descendants are the ones hurtling down freeways in their F-350's like they were on the Autobahn.

Regarding fellow Californians down here, within two blocks of my house are four other former residents of the Bay Area. Sadly, I'm still the only Cal fan among them.
SonomanA1
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I consider Berkeley central California. I was born in Eureka. My father was born in Smith River, and my mother was born in Dunsmuir. On my father's side, his mother came to California on a covered wagon in 1860 from Missouri, and her grandfather was the wagon master . His father left Schleswig-Holstein, Germany a little later, and end up in Smith River. That is as far north as you can go on the California coast. My mother's father worked for the railroad in Dunsmuir. My father is Cal class of 1917.

Go Bears!
Richard
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geez, I'm not worthy! I was born in SoCal. My mom is from Hong Kong and came to Montreal via Sydney, Australia. My dad's family came over Shanghai in the 50s fleeing the war. My parents met in NY, married, and almost didn't make out of NJ... my dad didn't ever think he'd getting into the Cal EE PhD program, and they put a deposit down on a house in Fort Lee, NJ. When he found out he got it, they packed up, drove cross country w/ my oldest brother in a VW camper van, and moved into a place on Gilman. My dad dropped out after a couple years to work and eventually moved to SoCal and started his own company the year I was born. So, one brother born in NJ, one in Mountain View, and I was born in SoCal.
sp4149
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Richard,
All of a sudden I feel younger. My father was born in McCloud in 1920 because Dunsmuir did not have a hospital (McCloud was a sawmill town, high injury rate). Dunsmuir was the largest town North of Sacramento before WWII. My father graduated from Dunsmuir High in 1938; the high school principal was R.T. Wattenburger. Thirteen faculty members, nine from Cal, one from SC (football coach), one from SF State (Band), one from Armstrong College (Typing, Business skills), and one from COP (Industrial Arts). None of the schools I ever attended had such a high percentage of Cal grads in their faculty (including Cal). My Dad graduated from Cal in 1942, 25 years after your dad, Richard.
Both sets of grandparents came to California over 100 years ago and both my parents were born in California.
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SonomanA1;842343091 said:

I consider Berkeley central California. I was born in Eureka. My father was born in Smith River, and my mother was born in Dunsmuir. On my father's side, his mother came to California on a covered wagon in 1860 from Missouri, and her grandfather was the wagon master . His father left Schleswig-Holstein, Germany a little later, and end up in Smith River. That is as far north as you can go on the California coast. My mother's father worked for the railroad in Dunsmuir. My father is Cal class of 1917.

Go Bears!
Richard
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