I'm having some doubts about that. At this point in his career, he has a Super Bowl win and SB MVP, the single season passer rating record, and a couple years where he led the league in passer rating. Otherwise, his stats are not particularly noteworthy considering how his peers (numerous QBs getting 5000 yd seasons, Peyton and Brady's huge stats over the years, etc.) have done. It seems you need either the stats (which generally requires longevity for career stats) like Marino, Fouts, Brady, Manning, etc., multiple Super Bowl wins (Montana, Brady, Aikman), and/or some stand out feature/characteristics (toughness for Favre, dual threat for Steve Young, comebacks for Elway, clutch play for Montana, first elite African-American QB for Warren Moon, etc.) to make the HOF. We know Rodgers doesn't do the comebacks (fewer 4th/OT comebacks at this point in his career than Andrew Luck already), have the best stats aside from accuracy stats, or more Super Bowls than chumps like Flacco (and fewer than guys like Eli Manning, Roethlisberger, etc.).

If things continue the way they have been -- and Rodgers will probably be at his prime for only a couple more years and the Packers don't look like they'll contend in the near future -- his career will look fairly pedestrian and not exactly HOF worthy.

The other question is, will he feature Butte CC or Cal more prominently in his HOF speech if eventually inducted? :p

Lots more to play

Only 20 QBs have made it in the modern era. He's got a lot of work to do (and time to do it) before he is even in the consideration set.

He sounds committed to finish out his career in Green Bay, but they never seem to be able to put together a complete team. I think he's hurting his career sticking with these guys. Meanwhile, the team he loved while growing up just needs a top QB to get back to the top...

The sad thing is he and Peyton are clearly on another level in terms of individual ability. Aaron's arm and quick release are the best in the league. Peyton's mind is the same. The Pack just can't put together a defense or running game, and the receivers only look good because Aaron makes them so. GB is a mess, and it is a shame that Aaron's career is being so negatively affected right at it's peak. He coulda been a contender(for best QB ever).

^^^great minds

Not with the current coaching staff in GB.......

GB needs a defense, a decent OL and some better skill players. I don't see AR leaving GB however...or winning with his huge salary. At the current rate, don't see a SB or division title coming for a while.

You have to keep in mind that Brady and Manning are far ahead of everybody in history. I think they're No. 2 and 3 in wins and in total TD passes.

Watching yesterday's game, it seemed like Rodgers has regressed.

We like to blame the WRs, but Rodgers has had really great receivers -- Jordy, Randall Cobb, Jason Jones, Greg Whathisname.

He has the rookie of the year as his RB.


I've been among the biggest Rodgers cheerleaders. I've listened to every episode of his radio show. But I get the sense lately that he's not totally all-in. Maybe it's the Hollywood/celebrity lifestyle.

Or maybe it's the terrible O-line. I don't know.

I haven't visited the Packers forum since last week, but they've had complaints galore about Rodgers -- specifically that he holds on to the ball too long in order to avoid interceptions, which results in sacks.

The Packer O-line has been pretty bad this year -- I think that's the biggest problem they have on offense.

okaydo;842364483 said:

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You have to keep in mind that Brady and Manning are far ahead of everybody in history. I think they're No. 2 and 3 in wins and in total TD passes.

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Yes, AR also had to deal with having two guaranteed inductees in Peyton and Brady as contemporaries, and at the same respective points in their careers it looks like Drew Brees also is more likely to get in due to his gaudy stats and reputation as the most accurate passer in the league. I don't think more than three QBs who are contemporaries will make it, as the football HOF seems more selective, say, than the baseball HOF.

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I'm having some doubts about that. At this point in his career, he has a Super Bowl win and SB MVP, the single season passer rating record, and a couple years where he led the league in passer rating. Otherwise, his stats are not particularly noteworthy considering how his peers (numerous QBs getting 5000 yd seasons, Peyton and Brady's huge stats over the years, etc.) have done. It seems you need either the stats (which generally requires longevity for career stats) like Marino, Fouts, Brady, Manning, etc., multiple Super Bowl wins (Montana, Brady, Aikman), and/or some stand out feature/characteristics (toughness for Favre, dual threat for Steve Young, comebacks for Elway, clutch play for Montana, first elite African-American QB for Warren Moon, etc.) to make the HOF. We know Rodgers doesn't do the comebacks (fewer 4th/OT comebacks at this point in his career than Andrew Luck already), have the best stats aside from accuracy stats, or more Super Bowls than chumps like Flacco (and fewer than guys like Eli Manning, Roethlisberger, etc.).

If things continue the way they have been -- and Rodgers will probably be at his prime for only a couple more years and the Packers don't look like they'll contend in the near future -- his career will look fairly pedestrian and not exactly HOF worthy.

The other question is, will he feature Butte CC or Cal more prominently in his HOF speech if eventually inducted? :p

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Rodgers not only has "a couple of years" leading the NFL in passer rating, he is the all-time career passer rating record holder in the NFL. That's a HOF type record to hold when you're talking about Rodgers level volume.

Also, you forgot--not only does he have a SB win and SB MVP, he has a regular season NFL MVP too. That's huge. It's basically the same HOF resume as Steve Young.

Even if he never makes it back to the SB, I think he's a lock as long as he plays another 3-5 years at a pro bowl level.

okaydo;842364483 said:

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You have to keep in mind that Brady and Manning are far ahead of everybody in history. I think they're No. 2 and 3 in wins and in total TD passes.

Watching yesterday's game, it seemed like Rodgers has regressed.

We like to blame the WRs, but Rodgers has had really great receivers -- Jordy, Randall Cobb, Jason Jones, Greg Whathisname.

He has the rookie of the year as his RB.


I've been among the biggest Rodgers cheerleaders. I've listened to every episode of his radio show. But I get the sense lately that he's not totally all-in. Maybe it's the Hollywood/celebrity lifestyle.

Or maybe it's the terrible O-line. I don't know.

I haven't visited the Packers forum since last week, but they've had complaints galore about Rodgers -- specifically that he holds on to the ball too long in order to avoid interceptions, which results in sacks.

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Disagree--it's the supporting cast.

GB used to have excellent WRs, but no more. When AR won the MVP three years ago he had Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones and Jermichael Finley. He also had a great pass protecting OL. Now all of those guys except Nelson are gone and his OL is a perennial wreck. Cobb doesn't come close to off-setting the loss of the rest of those WRs and Finley. Give Rodgers Demaryius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Wes Welker, Julius Thomas and the Broncos OL and he'll do what Peyton has done to the league.

maybe AR should have gotten JT the job at GB.. its hard to pay a QB that much and pay for good pieces everywhere else ... gm has to be really good and a lot of luck

Trade him to the 49ers and let him play

Not if he keeps sayin' "Butte Collegeor "Pleasant Valley HS" on Sun Night Football:hammer:

MoragaBear;842364779 said:

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Love the guy as a person and as a player but he's killing me with his intros and on my fantasy team, with one very good game and two very weak ones.

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Well Moraga, everybody knows you shouldn't draft with your heart.

You can always get a good QB late but hardly ever a good RB late. Rodgers is a reach in the first two rounds

OskiMD;842364421 said:

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I'm having some doubts about that. At this point in his career, he has a Super Bowl win and SB MVP, the single season passer rating record, and a couple years where he led the league in passer rating. Otherwise, his stats are not particularly noteworthy considering how his peers (numerous QBs getting 5000 yd seasons, Peyton and Brady's huge stats over the years, etc.) have done. It seems you need either the stats (which generally requires longevity for career stats) like Marino, Fouts, Brady, Manning, etc., multiple Super Bowl wins (Montana, Brady, Aikman), and/or some stand out feature/characteristics (toughness for Favre, dual threat for Steve Young, comebacks for Elway, clutch play for Montana, first elite African-American QB for Warren Moon, etc.) to make the HOF. We know Rodgers doesn't do the comebacks (fewer 4th/OT comebacks at this point in his career than Andrew Luck already), have the best stats aside from accuracy stats, or more Super Bowls than chumps like Flacco (and fewer than guys like Eli Manning, Roethlisberger, etc.).

If things continue the way they have been -- and Rodgers will probably be at his prime for only a couple more years and the Packers don't look like they'll contend in the near future -- his career will look fairly pedestrian and not exactly HOF worthy.

The other question is, will he feature Butte CC or Cal more prominently in his HOF speech if eventually inducted? :p

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If he retires today, no. If the current trajectory holds, yes.
He's been the top 1 or 2 quarterback the past few seasons, and quarterbacks tend to have pretty long careers, especially for non-running quarterbacks and those 15-yard flags for touching the pocket QBs. I see many more years of elite quarterbacking from Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers is mobile and a great scrambler, but he throws on the run and is not a running quarterback.

KevBear;842364681 said:

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Rodgers not only has "a couple of years" leading the NFL in passer rating, he is the all-time career passer rating record holder in the NFL. That's a HOF type record to hold when you're talking about Rodgers level volume.

Also, you forgot--not only does he have a SB win and SB MVP, he has a regular season NFL MVP too. That's huge. It's basically the same HOF resume as Steve Young.

Even if he never makes it back to the SB, I think he's a lock as long as he plays another 3-5 years at a pro bowl level.

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Great post. It is really difficult to overstate how impressive it is to have the all-time career passer rating. Furthermore, his career rating is substantially higher than anyone else. His career rating is 104.6, and Peyton Manning is #2 with a rating of 97.4. If Rodgers continues to have a few more pro bowl level years, he will make the HOF.