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WhipItOutJoe;842368310 said:
He looks headed to the NFL - would be nice if he stayed 3 more years.
Grandours;842368305 said:
Goff looked off to me in warm ups and that first throw was ill advised but he sure turned it around and showed us a lot from there on. He looks so calm after the team lines up and he surveys the defense. Then he goes into the count and gets his hands set for the snap. Btw, there were several snaps through the game that he had to field high/low/side to side. Showed great hands and maintained his concentration and vision down field. He is really fun to watch. After some of the QB play for quite a few years, it is so refreshing.
Cal89;842368443 said:
I think there is something to that, throwing deep balls more often, certainly compared to last season, but not so sure as compared to other QBs. After watching conference play, including those QBs against us, I sense that is not much of a difference, us throwing deep more often...
Not only looking at completion % however. It is considered pure passing, accuracy though.
Other factors make for a good QB of course. I have noted here before and even somewhat recently yards per attempt. Goff is doing spectacular there. Fewer passes than last year and some big connections is a huge factor in that fantastic figure. Oh, here's one more that also shows another angle - yards per completion. Goff is averaging almost 17 yards per completed pass! That leads the nation (I think). When he connects, Cal gets the most bang out of that connection. Our longest pass in school history yesterday was a fairly short one, yet went for 91 (?). Get these receivers and play-makers the ball, and good things happen...
In going through data, who is this Deshaun Watson at Clemson? He's completing balls at nearly 73%, y/a about 12, 10/1 TDs to INTs, 213 QBR and like Goff, has an amazing average pass completion of over 16 yards. And a freshman... Damn.
OneKeg;842368548 said:
Goff and Rodgers are the best Cal quarterbacks of the millennium so far. There are even a few similarities (quick release, excellent footwork, good at reading coverages), though those are common traits of many good signal-callers. I actually think Goff will end up being a better college QB than AR, partly because he will likely play more games/snaps. He may not end up as good a pro as Rodgers but that's like saying a good back may not end up as good a pro as Walter Payton.
SonOfCalVa;842368553 said:
Rodgers had the advantage of falling down the draft board before GB got him, allowing him years of apprenticeship before he took over.
That Goff may play more games will, of course, result in higher numbers.
However, Goff is doing it on a young team and has faced adversity that Rodgers never came close to experiencing.
SonOfCalVa;842368553 said:
Rodgers had the advantage of falling down the draft board before GB got him, allowing him years of apprenticeship before he took over.
That Goff may play more games will, of course, result in higher numbers.
However, Goff is doing it on a young team and has faced adversity that Rodgers never came close to experiencing.
tim94501;842368346 said:
He under threw a ton of tds as well.
OneKeg;842368573 said:
Totally agree on the adversity. Mostly agree on youth - 2003 was a youngish team for Rodgers, with almost all of the best players as juniors and sophomores like this year, but Rodgers never had anything like 2013. Tempo will help get Goff sheer numbers of stats (and force D to defend more) so better to compare efficiency. But then AR had truly awesome OL and RBs, but then far fewer good receivers after the '04 SC game when Lyman went down. Could go back and forth. Any way you slice it, two great Cal QBs. Honor to watch Goff play.
Nasal Mucus Goldenbear;842368581 said:
Yes, several passes to several different receivers were underthrown, forcing WRs to slow down, and giving DBs time to recover and bat them down. If he hits those in stride, good bye. He'll see that on film today. But yeah we're being picky :p. Right now he's averaging 2 great quarters per game; if he could get that up closer to 3, our pass D would be irrelevant.
HoopDreams;842368606 said:
For an 'off game' he made many throws that were just art
I am so freaking impressed with goff !
P.s. Pawlaski said the AZ game was his best game in his college career
Cal89;842368443 said:
I think there is something to that, throwing deep balls more often, certainly compared to last season, but not so sure as compared to other QBs. After watching conference play, including those QBs against us, I sense that is not much of a difference, us throwing deep more often...
Not only looking at completion % however. It is considered pure passing, accuracy though.
Other factors make for a good QB of course. I have noted here before and even somewhat recently yards per attempt. Goff is doing spectacular there. Fewer passes than last year and some big connections is a huge factor in that fantastic figure. Oh, here's one more that also shows another angle - yards per completion. Goff is averaging almost 17 yards per completed pass! That leads the nation (I think). When he connects, Cal gets the most bang out of that connection. Our longest pass in school history yesterday was a fairly short one, yet went for 91 (?). Get these receivers and play-makers the ball, and good things happen...
In going through data, who is this Deshaun Watson at Clemson? He's completing balls at nearly 73%, y/a about 12, 10/1 TDs to INTs, 213 QBR and like Goff, has an amazing average pass completion of over 16 yards. And a freshman... Damn.
Cal89;842368677 said:
Not sure why we are saying Goff had an off game yesterday, one markedly different or worse than others this season. ...
Cal89;842368443 said:
I think there is something to that, throwing deep balls more often, certainly compared to last season, but not so sure as compared to other QBs. After watching conference play, including those QBs against us, I sense that is not much of a difference, us throwing deep more often...
Not only looking at completion % however. It is considered pure passing, accuracy though.
Other factors make for a good QB of course. I have noted here before and even somewhat recently yards per attempt. Goff is doing spectacular there. Fewer passes than last year and some big connections is a huge factor in that fantastic figure. Oh, here's one more that also shows another angle - yards per completion. Goff is averaging almost 17 yards per completed pass! That leads the nation (I think). When he connects, Cal gets the most bang out of that connection. Our longest pass in school history yesterday was a fairly short one, yet went for 91 (?). Get these receivers and play-makers the ball, and good things happen...
In going through data, who is this Deshaun Watson at Clemson? He's completing balls at nearly 73%, y/a about 12, 10/1 TDs to INTs, 213 QBR and like Goff, has an amazing average pass completion of over 16 yards. And a freshman... Damn.
Cal89;842368727 said:
Stats support and validate, what we see, and what he and others say. His play was subpar the last half against AZ and the first half against the Buffs. It picked-up in the last half of the Buff's game, and aided us greatly in the victory.
Stats get one to D1, the Heisman and drafted, among other things. Most prefer the objective to otherwise; especially when hearing statements from fans who have a passion for their team.