Wilner ranks us 6th or 7th in the Pac-12

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okaydo
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:cheer
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2014/10/01/pac-12-power-ratings-ucla-climbs-utah-falls-and-a-newcomer-in-the-5-hole/
Davidson
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At this point in the season, I like where we are, we are in a good spot. About to jump in
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okaydo;842370408 said:

:cheer
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2014/10/01/pac-12-power-ratings-ucla-climbs-utah-falls-and-a-newcomer-in-the-5-hole/


3rd in the Pac-12 North.
mvargus
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Based on what we know that sounds reasonable. If we beat WSU and UW then we can argue for 5th. We'd have to beat one of the 4 big players (UCLA, USC, Oregon, Stanford) before anyone could argue better than that.

But after last season, I think 6th is a fine place to be. Next season will be the moment of truth. Can we turn this team into a 9 win juggernaut?
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Or if the Top 4 loses in conference.

UCLA - inconsistent
USC - inconsistent
Oregon - got a scare from WSU, how good are they this year? or .. how good is WSU?
Furd - very bad offense
Gizzly Bear
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Davidson;842370435 said:

Furd - very bad offense


It's very hard for me to imagine that Shaw, Hogan and co. will be able to score with us.
Davidson
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^ you mean "on us"?

Honestly, our rush defense is pretty good. I think every team we faced, their QB ended up being the leading rusher. We stopped Arizona's streak of like 20 straight games with a 100 yard rusher.

They run the ball don't they? Run run run run run run run, play action TD!!! run run run run run run run run


EDIT: I just understood your post. you mean what you wrote lol.

yea, their D is good. very good. I still think we score tho
GivemTheAxe
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Gizzly Bear;842370547 said:

It's very hard for me to imagine that Shaw, Hogan and co. will be able to score with us.


That's the spirit. But not very realistic. Here's hoping.
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I think an upset of Stanford is possible. They don't score a lot of points, and while they have a shut down defense, there is no defense to some of the plays we can make in the passing game. We just might take them by surprise. Of course, our defense will have to play the game of their lives.
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Davidson;842370556 said:

^ you mean "on us"?

Honestly, our rush defense is pretty good. I think every team we faced, their QB ended up being the leading rusher. We stopped Arizona's streak of like 20 straight games with a 100 yard rusher.

They run the ball don't they? Run run run run run run run, play action TD!!! run run run run run run run run


One problem they pose for us is Ty Montgomery -- big, physical WRs have given us problems this year, and he certainly did the same in the 2013 BG!
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I think that is about right -- With our offense, we should have blown out Colorado, and look what happened..penalties and long yardage given away.. Agree that wins vs WSU and UW are possible/probable, but that's where it ends for me..even OSU worries me being away..I want to think that BYU can be our bowl eligible game..Help me with that!
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mvargus;842370429 said:

Based on what we know that sounds reasonable. If we beat WSU and UW then we can argue for 5th. We'd have to beat one of the 4 big players (UCLA, USC, Oregon, Stanford) before anyone could argue better than that.

But after last season, I think 6th is a fine place to be. Next season will be the moment of truth. Can we turn this team into a 9 win juggernaut?


smh 9 win juggernaut? This is like saying, I cant wait until next year so that we can finish in second place. i know that next season is far off, but if we can turn in a 6-7 win type season this year. everyone in blue and gold including the fans needs to hold the team to a higher standard than 9 wins. You have the best QB since Rodgers and maybe an all time great in Goff and a good chance that maybe the entire receiving core and most of the offense comes back. Thats our year to take a shot Roses or whatever the equivalent is nowadays
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pappysghost;842370558 said:

I think an upset of Stanford is possible. They don't score a lot of points, and while they have a shut down defense, there is no defense to some of the plays we can make in the passing game. We just might take them by surprise. Of course, our defense will have to play the game of their lives.
Somehow furd will hang at least 40 on us
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86Oski;842370560 said:

One problem they pose for us is Ty Montgomery -- big, physical WRs have given us problems this year, and he certainly did the same in the 2013 BG!


Oh yea man. I'm surprised he's still there. I was watching the replay of the furd uw game and was shocked to see Montgomery lol.
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tommie317;842370568 said:

Somehow furd will hang at least 40 on us


Ya maybe, and maybe we hang half a hundred on them. I'm feeling good!
BerlinerBaer
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Unless Ty Montgomery gets hurt, arrested, abducted by aliens, or goes on a Mormon mission Furd has the ability to score plenty against our defense.

Also, any post suggesting our offense will be prolific against really good defenses before we have played a really good defense is premature.
NYCGOBEARS
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BerlinerBaer;842370594 said:

Unless Ty Montgomery gets hurt, arrested, or abducted by aliens Furd has the ability to score plenty against our defense.

Did he go on a Morman mission? I swear to god he's 28 years old. Been there forever.
mvargus
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gobears725;842370567 said:

smh 9 win juggernaut? This is like saying, I cant wait until next year so that we can finish in second place. i know that next season is far off, but if we can turn in a 6-7 win type season this year. everyone in blue and gold including the fans needs to hold the team to a higher standard than 9 wins. You have the best QB since Rodgers and maybe an all time great in Goff and a good chance that maybe the entire receiving core and most of the offense comes back. Thats our year to take a shot Roses or whatever the equivalent is nowadays


9 win as a minimum every year for the next 10 years or so? That's what I'm thinking. Saying "rose bowl in 2015" would have had tons of negabears coming out to bash on me, and honestly, while I think 2015 will be a down year for several teams due to graduating stars, I'm not willing to predict how 2015 will turn out until we see what defensive recruits we get. I will say that if we get most of the offense back I see no reason we won't win at least 9 games and probably be able to keep that up going forward.
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mvargus;842370606 said:

9 win as a minimum every year for the next 10 years or so? That's what I'm thinking. Saying "rose bowl in 2015" would have had tons of negabears coming out to bash on me, and honestly, while I think 2015 will be a down year for several teams due to graduating stars, I'm not willing to predict how 2015 will turn out until we see what defensive recruits we get. I will say that if we get most of the offense back I see no reason we won't win at least 9 games and probably be able to keep that up going forward.


ah ic. i get you now
Davidson
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i love how we went from clown coaches and dumpster fire to goff for heisman and 9 wins every year in a span of about 30 days. YES !! ! !! ! !!
bear2034
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Winer is a genius.
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Davidson;842370616 said:

i love how we went from clown coaches and dumpster fire to goff for heisman and 9 wins every year in a span of about 30 days. YES !! ! !! ! !!


That's Cal for you...we swing low to high on the drop of a dime!
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Davidson;842370616 said:

i love how we went from clown coaches and dumpster fire to goff for heisman and 9 wins every year in a span of about 30 days. YES !! ! !! ! !!


And not only that, there's a thread about how everyone agrees with Wilner.
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gobears725;842370567 said:

smh 9 win juggernaut? This is like saying, I cant wait until next year so that we can finish in second place. i know that next season is far off, but if we can turn in a 6-7 win type season this year. everyone in blue and gold including the fans needs to hold the team to a higher standard than 9 wins. You have the best QB since Rodgers and maybe an all time great in Goff and a good chance that maybe the entire receiving core and most of the offense comes back. Thats our year to take a shot Roses or whatever the equivalent is nowadays


Yah, whatever. We haven't had a nine-win regular season since that juggernaut team of 2006. We did have a one-win season last year, a three-year season the year before that, and a 5-win season two years prior to the three-win season. If you add those three seasons together, you get to nine wins.

And anyhow, what'll we do if Dykes "only" delivers nine wins next season? I'll bet you anything it'll look a lot more like a big pile of more money for Sonny than a hot seat. As well it should be. We don't fire 9-win coaches, and neither does any other school in the Pac 12.
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BeachyBear;842370761 said:

Yah, whatever. We haven't had a nine-win regular season since that juggernaut team of 2006. We did have a one-win season last year, a three-year season the year before that, and a 5-win season two years prior to the three-win season. If you add those three seasons together, you get to nine wins.

And anyhow, what'll we do if Dykes "only" delivers nine wins next season? I'll bet you anything it'll look a lot more like a big pile of more money for Sonny than a hot seat. As well it should be. We don't fire 9-win coaches, and neither does any other school in the Pac 12.


not sure where i said to fire sonny if he won 9 games. Im not on the hate sonny, fire sonny bandwagon. im saying look at what we have and what we may have coming back. we'll have the best QB imo hands down in the conference as Mariotta moves on to the NFL with the best receiving core in the conference, with an oline that returns most of its players. defensively right now the only loss i can think of would be lowe off the top of my head. This is a recipe for not just a good season (7-9 wins) but a great season. (10-11 wins and a major bowl). If you cant see the potential of that and would be happy with 9 wins thats fine, but i dont think that 9 wins is the best we can do next year if we can continue to build this year, mainly because of how good i think Goff is and QB is still the one position where if you are great can just carry your team
Davidson
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Lowe mcclure avery scarlett off top of head
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gobears725;842370782 said:

not sure where i said to fire sonny if he won 9 games. Im not on the hate sonny, fire sonny bandwagon. im saying look at what we have and what we may have coming back. we'll have the best QB imo hands down in the conference as Mariotta moves on to the NFL with the best receiving core in the conference, with an oline that returns most of its players. defensively right now the only loss i can think of would be lowe off the top of my head. This is a recipe for not just a good season (7-9 wins) but a great season. (10-11 wins and a major bowl). If you cant see the potential of that and would be happy with 9 wins thats fine, but i dont think that 9 wins is the best we can do next year if we can continue to build this year, mainly because of how good i think Goff is and QB is still the one position where if you are great can just carry your team


Not knowing much about a lot regarding next season, including LOI day, I'd be happy with 7-8 wins.
Anything better than that would be nice but should NOT be expected.
People at this stage expecting more, poster included, need to have their blood tested, hopefully voluntarily, not by law enforcement.
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Davidson;842370794 said:

Lowe mcclure avery scarlett off top of head


McClure, Avery and Scarlett will all have one more year of eligibility after this season. Right now I'm not sure any of them would want to go pro unless they start putting up some highlight level plays in later games. They are unlikely to be drafted.

I do know that Avery has graduated, so it is possible he decides to move on, I'm not sure where McClure or Scarlett are in regards to finishing school, both are in their 4th year at Cal though.
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Davidson;842370794 said:

Lowe mcclure avery scarlett off top of head


All juniors now besides Lowe.

Next year HAS to be the year we make some noise. Goff is a once a decade kind of type.
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concernedparent;842370799 said:

Goff is a once a decade kind of type.


Literally
gobears725
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concernedparent;842370799 said:

All juniors now besides Lowe.

Next year HAS to be the year we make some noise. Goff is a once a decade kind of type.


exactly, thats all im sayin. i honestly wouldnt be calling for sonny's head if he won 7-9 games next year, thats a good season, but i do think that theres potential there for so much more. i wouldnt go dismissing it as crazy for suggesting it or somewhat expecting that it could happen. ive seen enough through the first 4 games alone to know that the potential is there. if anything thats praise to sonny and the staff.
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Wow, I just assumed they were all seniors, excellent
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Goff is once in generation
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gobears725;842370812 said:

exactly, thats all im sayin. i honestly wouldnt be calling for sonny's head if he won 7-9 games next year, thats a good season, but i do think that theres potential there for so much more. i wouldnt go dismissing it as crazy for suggesting it or somewhat expecting that it could happen. ive seen enough through the first 4 games alone to know that the potential is there. if anything thats praise to sonny and the staff.


Hmm. Who recruited Goff? I can't remember.
Davidson
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Committed when Teddy was coach and stayed committed when Sonny arrived
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