My question is did the ball advance beyond ten yards before it was recovered by the Cougs? It was kicked from their own 35 yard line. Doesn't the ball have to travel PASSED the WSU 45 yard line before the kicking team can recover it?

Anyone have access to the NCAA rule book? I think it is either in Article 3 or Article 6?

I think they touched it before any part of the ball reached the plane, but we'd need lasers to be that precise. I'm ok with the call. We screwed up, again. Outside of onsides, our special teams is lights out though. We have to fix that.

I think it's probably like for a TD, the nose of the ball has to touch the 10yds plane as opposed to the entire ball has to be over the 45yds. If the former wasn't the rule, then we got royally screwed.

Forget running the ball between the tackles
Currently the highest percentage play against Cal is hail marys and on-side kicks.

And yes the ball traveled the 10 yards and that is all that is necessary (but I didn't actually check the rule book)
The refs gave us the game so...

Looking again at the onside kickoff, it appears the WSU player recovered it ON the 45 before it went beyond that point and that's the basis of my question. I think the refs blew it.

bearsandgiants;842374802 said:

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I think they touched it before any part of the ball reached the plane, but we'd need lasers to be that precise. I'm ok with the call. We screwed up, again. Outside of onsides, our special teams is lights out though. We have to fix that.

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I don't think that can be correctly described as us screwing up. 1) that was a non standard time to do an onsides kick. 2) even though we had a standard return on, we actually came very close to recovering it. 3) it was incredibly well executed by their kicker. It was within a fraction of an inch from being too soon or perfect, so much so that I think it's technically the correct call to not overturn the on field call. And lastly, 4) I'm not sure the rules on the kicker and whether he's exempt from being offsides, but it sure looked to me like his body was past the ball/line before he kicked it.