Mike Perreira on the resignation of Pac-12 officialting coordinator

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heartofthebear
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Bobodeluxe;842381610 said:

Citation?


It was mentioned in a broadcast. But I don't remember which one. Admittedly, they did not specifically say the helmets caused it. They said that the helmets have space inside and that is what is causing the helmets to come off and get twisted etc.
Imo, it is pretty obvious that the helmet aren't doing much. Now even a routine landing, if on the back, causes the head to hit hard on the ground because the helmets are so big it makes the head snap back.
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I guess the connotation of "thankless job" just doesn't make much sense to me for a D1 college football ref. These guys usually have great first jobs and take on the reffing gig because they like reffing (go figure) and they like the extra money. I know a few refs and none of them dread the weekend gig. On the contrary they like it and the extra money. It's about as far from "thankless" as I can think of. But is it a job where everyone seems to disagree with you at some point? Yes. Does anyone say, "thank you, ref"? No. It just doesn't strike me as a thankless job. I use that term to describe crappy jobs that one hates and feels that they have no means of escape.

Calcoholic;842381842 said:

"Thankless job" is not synonymous with "volunteer position." It's not the pay that makes a job NOT thankless. Are you saying that it's not possible to have a thankless job if it's a paid position?
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82gradDLSdad;842382130 said:

I guess the connotation of "thankless job" just doesn't make much sense to me for a D1 college football ref. These guys usually have great first jobs and take on the reffing gig because they like reffing (go figure) and they like the extra money. I know a few refs and none of them dread the weekend gig. On the contrary they like it and the extra money. It's about as far from "thankless" as I can think of. But is it a job where everyone seems to disagree with you at some point? Yes. Does anyone say, "thank you, ref"? No. It just doesn't strike me as a thankless job. I use that term to describe crappy jobs that one hates and feels that they have no means of escape.


Exactly. I think the people who see it as "thankless" just quit and enjoy their weekends some other way, leaving the job for the ego-manics who love reffing/umping, taking control and think the game is all about them. I think that having 60,000 fans boo them in a huge stadium while millions watch them on TV is a thrill to them. When they go back to their real, truly "thankless" job in accounting on Monday, all their co-workers, including the cute 20-something receptionist, tell them they saw them on TV.
Calcoholic
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Ok, well, I don't' know any refs personally so I'll have to defer to your experience on that one. The comment in the article made sense to me - I actually took it as a bit of an understatement, the point being that compared to most jobs where people have to defend against a mild hostility coming at them from one or two directions at the most (i.e. from bosses and clients/customers), these refs have to defend against outright anger and aggression from just about every direction (coaches, fans, players, bosses). But I suppose it's possible that some of them gets their rocks off on that kind of stuff.
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calumnus;842382134 said:

Exactly. I think the people who see it as "thankless" just quit and enjoy their weekends some other way, leaving the job for the ego-manics who love reffing/umping, taking control and think the game is all about them. I think that having 60,000 fans boo them in a huge stadium while millions watch them on TV is a thrill to them. When they go back to their real, truly "thankless" job in accounting on Monday, all their co-workers, including the cute 20-something receptionist, tell them they saw them on TV.


I am shocked -- shocked, I tell you -- that anyone would suggest that there are football officials who like attention.



Seriously, "thankless" is probably not the right word, and I don't know why Perreira felt the need to include that line. It's certainly a very difficult job, which is all the more reason the refs should get better and more training and practice than they're probably getting now.
Bear8
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mvargus;842381746 said:

Most schools will contract officials to show up at scrimmages and some practices to help out, they could do that. They also should be attending seminars and workshops to fully cover any rule changes, the techniques and responsibilities for their officiating position and in general refining their skills. Heck most pro athletes practice year round now, you practically have to if you want to keep up, officials should be doing the same thing.


Seminars and workshops will not consume 8 or 9 months of time. Those things can be scheduled for weekends or at night. The athletes work out all the time in the off-season in order to be more effective on pass plays, running plays, blocking, tackling, defending. Officials are not required for most of that practice. The players are also in weight training with the S&C coaches in the off-season. What is the official supposed to do during this time?

One of the reasons we love college football so much is that there are so few games to enjoy. Every single game counts! Baseball, on the other hand, kills it by playing too many games over too long a stretch. So when a season is compressed into less than three months, if you're a team like we were in '12 and '13 with no bowl game, then there are nine months between seasons. It's asking a lot of a person to be a referee and give up a profession for the greater part of a year.

One solution is to find people who are well-off, love football and are not in need of regular income. With that, you're asking for people over 50 and it isn't exactly the profile you want. [e.g., people who buy entry to the University Club] Ideally, a ref should be between the ages of 30 and 50, in good health, athletic and able to understand and apply the rules. But those are prime earning years and family years, you'd be hard-pressed to find a large contingent of people available.
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6bear6;842382200 said:

Seminars and workshops will not consume 8 or 9 months of time. Those things can be scheduled for weekends or at night. The athletes work out all the time in the off-season in order to be more effective on pass plays, running plays, blocking, tackling, defending. Officials are not required for most of that practice. The players are also in weight training with the S&C coaches in the off-season. What is the official supposed to do during this time?

One of the reasons we love college football so much is that there are so few games to enjoy. Every single game counts! Baseball, on the other hand, kills it by playing too many games over too long a stretch. So when a season is compressed into less than three months, if you're a team like we were in '12 and '13 with no bowl game, then there are nine months between seasons. It's asking a lot of a person to be a referee and give up a profession for the greater part of a year.

One solution is to find people who are well-off, love football and are not in need of regular income. With that, you're asking for people over 50 and it isn't exactly the profile you want. [e.g., people who buy entry to the University Club] Ideally, a ref should be between the ages of 30 and 50, in good health, athletic and able to understand and apply the rules. But those are prime earning years and family years, you'd be hard-pressed to find a large contingent of people available.


Most people in the UClub wouldn't get medical clearance (just look at us). That said, the ideal you stated is not what the NFL uses. Most NFL officials are in the older range, and seem to be several cuts above college refs. A lot of this is training. Our former colleague Howard was out there in his early 60s until a certain famous NFL linebacker ran through his knee trying to make a tackle. And Howard still is up in the box doing replays in his early '70s. Trial work doesn't get in the way of his football schedule. It can be done when your talking about only 12 to 15 games a year.
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GrizzledBear;842381703 said:

Bet glassesref isn't happy about this potential change to better officiating...

https://twitter.com/glassesref


dude glasses ref retired. I miss glasses ref. at least we know he could somewhat see. i'm sure whoever replaced him is even worse!
Bear8
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Didn't know he was still active. However, the last time I saw him he looked old and tired.
Certain people in the UClub are active, smart, good looking and very healthy. Well, that takes care of Marie.
travelingbears
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Strykur;842381707 said:

Watching an NFL game is entertaining just by how different the officiating is compared to our conference games.


NFL refs are terrible at calling slanted calls against one team or another for the purposes of vegas odds. College football is becoming more and more the same.
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