The time we tricked Stanfurd into cancelling its own bonfire rally

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86Oski
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slobear;842404870 said:

Should be in the HOF of Big Game pranks. Ranks right up there with the fake Daily Cal of 1975, which I still remember reading the morning it came out.


I was in school for the fake Daily Cal in 1982, but was unaware of the 1975 prank. Sure enough, the google machine tells me it happened.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ucb.sports/6Nu7mxdlOgs
UrsaMajor
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No he didn't. He just spelled it the British way.
okaydo
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Cal8285
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86Oski;842404993 said:

I was in school for the fake Daily Cal in 1982, but was unaware of the 1975 prank. Sure enough, the google machine tells me it happened.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ucb.sports/6Nu7mxdlOgs
Although the 1982 fake got more press, the 1975 fake was more believable to students who were hardcore Cal football fans. Anyone who knows football well, who knows the history of college football, knows that the result of a game would not be overturned after the fact like the 1982 fake suggested.

But anyone who knew the state of Cal football in 1975 understood that if the NCAA ever found out what was really going on at Cal, we'd end up on probation. Chuck Muncie not going to class? Of COURSE he wasn't going to class. Damn, those Rose Bowl dreams dashed because we were cheating. Oh well. It was a relief to realize the 1975 was a fake.

When I saw 1982, my first reaction was, "It's a fake, just like 1975." Admittedly, I had the advantage of having read the 1975 fake, but I also had the advantage of knowing football. The classic example of a game that had an ending screwed up by the officials was 1940 Cornell-Dartmouth, the original "5th Down Game." In spite of clear proof, the official outcome stood. Cornell offered to forfeit, and Dartmouth accepted. Whether Cornell and Dartmouth's agreement amounted to anything "official" is still up for debate 74 years later. For those who accept Dartmouth's 3-0 "victory," it is the only game in the history of football where the outcome was determined off the field after the game, and it required the team that officially won on the field offering to give up its win. Cal fans who were around in 1970 knew that undisputable proof that the end of the game was blown doesn't do any good. Dennis Dummit was down, there was proof positive, and it didn't matter, UCLA gets the touchdown and the win. The outcome of the 1982 Big Game was not going to change, no matter what the proof (which, of course, was an obviously faked photo, which made the fake Daily Cal all the more funny).

The fake 1975 Daily Cal was highly distressing. It was believable. And worse yet, for many of us, even after we found out that it was a fake, it highlighted the fact that the essence of what the 1975 paper was reporting WAS true. Cal SHOULD have been caught and put on probation, and been ineligible for the Rose Bowl. We smashed Stanford in the 1975 Big Game, but at some level, we knew that even if SC could tie or beat UCLA and send Cal to the Rose Bowl, it would be a tainted Rose Bowl, because we were cheaters, and the 1975 fake Daily Cal highlighted that.

The 1982 fake Daily Cal cracked me up from the moment I picked it up. I loved it, I kept it, it still cracks me up. I believe the fake Joe Kapp quote was, "Life isn't fair. I swear to God it isn't." Hilarious. The poorly faked photo only highlighted the fact that there was no truthful way to say that Cal shouldn't have won the game, which, as opposed to 1975's fake making us feel worse when we knew the truth, made us feel better about the truth.

Thinking back to 1975 in general, the most painful thing is the realization that, after UCLA beat SC and Cal didn't get the Rose Bowl, many of us thought, "It hurts, but we're good, we'll get to the Rose Bowl soon enough." 39 years later, no Rose Bowl in sight, some of us who had those thoughts are dead and never saw a Rose Bowl.

With no Rose Bowl hopes for this year, I'll just hope that 40 years after Langford kicked the game winning field goal in the Big Game, we can have a reprise, Langford can once again kick the game winning field goal in the Big Game.

GO BEARS!
86Oski
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Thx. for the background, 8285. I'm happy to say that I was not fooled by one second by the 1982 fake Daily Cal. Someone slid it under the door of my dorm room. When I got up, I picked it up and had a good laugh...maybe it was too early in the morning for me to be as gullible as I ordinarily am.

As to the OP, great job, Ken! Given how the game turned out that year and the results in 1975, however, I'm wondering if there is an inverse correlation between pulling off a prank and doing well in the Big Game. Maybe one of our resident statisticians can crunch the numbers on that...do a linear regression analysis and the like.
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Can I just say that as a fellow prankster, this was awesome to read! (I hadn't heard about it until now.) Kudos to the 1990 group for pulling this off...that must have been a lot of fun watching the 11pm news broadcasts of the unlit bonfire! Similarly, the Phoenix Five in 1998 had a blast watching the late local news as reporters stood outside of the UCPD office as the "midnight deadline" approached that Chancellor Berdahl had set for the return of the tree (I wish I had some of those old clips!). The punishment for not returning it by the deadline was that Oski wouldn't be able to perform at the OSU game (we later found out that there weren't any plans to send Oski to Corvallis to begin with!)

86Oski, we lost in 98, so there may be something to your inverse correlation idea.

BTW, I wholeheartedly agree with Ken: I hope these past pranks "encourage our current generation of Cal students to have fun and to do you what you need to do!"
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The greatest prank I ever witnessed was the game at Stanford where a couple of Cal students hacked into the Cardinal's PA system. One of the participants later posted this account here:

"While I was at the Big Game a buddy told me there was a thread about a little job I pulled back in '97 down on the farm.

My name is Theodore Barnwell Kelly and I'm the one who pulled the the radio prank back at the 100th Big Game.

I'm pleased to read that many of you enjoyed it. To clear up one small issue, the actual statement that made it on the air was "Penalty, Unsportsmanlike arrogance, Stanfurd Sucks"
There were two more words that were cut off but if any of you have a video tape of the game the full message did appear earlier in the game as well, except that it was hidden by other sounds at the time and not noticed by the crowd in general.

The main source of error in the reporting of the message was Joe Eskenazi's November 26, 1997 story "Damn Near Exclusive Coverage of the Mad-Wild Prankster," in which he reported the words as being "Excessive arrogance." Given that I designed the prank to resemble a Referee's call, it's easy to see why "Unsportsmanlike Arrogance" makes more sense and if you happen to have it on tape, that is what you will hear. In other regards, Eskenazi's reportage was correct although he spared his readers most of the technical data that I supplied to him.

So if I may add my own brief recollection to those posted here. My memory is of how after flipping the switch and starting the transmission, I could clearly hear my voice literally booming out over the stanfurd PA. Hours and hours of effort were bearing fruit and the fruit was being thrown in stanfurd's face. It was the 100th Big Game and it was at stanfurd. Chelsea Clinton was there, and tons of stanfurd alums were there for, and they all heard their school get punked when "Stanfurd Sucks!" blared out on the PA. The damage was done. the perfect stanfurd love fest had been soiled. The roar that emanated from our fans, despite being on the losing end of the score, was a sound I'll never forget. Nor will I forget the looks of dismay and puzzlement that appeared on the faces of the stanfurd fans. stanfurd had been had and there was no denying it.

I still bear a small scar from that day. One that I got helping to tear down the chain link fence after the stanfurd fans taunted us with chants of "Cal's our @#%$!" We all know what happened after that as Cal became the first visiting team ever to tear down a goalpost after suffering a loss.

I doubt that I'll ever top that prank, but then again you never know."
Cal8285
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86Oski;842405037 said:

Given how the game turned out that year and the results in 1975, however, I'm wondering if there is an inverse correlation between pulling off a prank and doing well in the Big Game. Maybe one of our resident statisticians can crunch the numbers on that...do a linear regression analysis and the like.
Hmmm. . . I hadn't thought about that.

During Big Game week 1977, some young looking Cal students posed as high school students on a campus tour of Stanford. They managed to hang a "Go Bears" banner on Hoover Tower and got the photo on the front page of the Oakland Trib. The Bears, of course, lost the game.

Can anyone think of a good pre-game prank in a year when the pranking team won?
86Oski
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Cal8285;842405056 said:

Hmmm. . . I hadn't thought about that.

During Big Game week 1977, some young looking Cal students posed as high school students on a campus tour of Stanford. They managed to hang a "Go Bears" banner on Hoover Tower and got the photo on the front page of the Oakland Trib. The Bears, of course, lost the game.

Can anyone think of a good pre-game prank in a year when the pranking team won?


Okay, here's a list from this thread:

1975: Stanford prints fake Daily Cal; Cal wins 48-15
1977: Cal students hang "Go Bears" from Hoover Tower; Stanford wins 21-3
1982: Stanford prints fake Daily Cal (after the game); Cal had won 25-20
1990: Cal students cancel Stanford bonfire rally; Stanford wins 27-25
1997: Cal fan hacks into PA system; Stanford wins 21-20
1998: Cal students steal the tree; Stanford wins 10-3

I'll also add:
1983: Stanford students cancel the bus to be used by Cal Band, causing them to show up around the end of the first quarter; Cal wins 27-18
1991: Cal fans correct highway signs on local freeways so that they say "Stanfurd"; Stanford wins 38-21

Hmmmmmm....all these years we've cursed our bad luck or the refs for the 1990 Big Game loss, but all along, IT WAS XULTAIF'S FAULT!!! It all makes sense now...especially his rant a couple of years later as mic man against referee Pat Flood. Deflection, deflection, deflection! :p
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Ha, I was at Raleigh's that night and remember the cheers that went up. Everyone was super confused until word spread in the bar. Well done guys
TheFiatLux
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That blog post has almost tripled my previous high for a blog post!

Right now it has almost 7K views

In order of where visitors come from:
1 - Facebook
2 - California Golden Blogs
3 - Reddit
4 - Twitter
5 - The Cardboard (never heard of it but a Stanfurd site)
6 - BearInsider (but that's not really fair because I linked to my facebook post here)

To Country views:
1 - USA
2 - UK
3 - Australia
4 - Canada
5 - Germany
6 - India
7 - Taiwan
8 - France
9- Brazil
10 - Japan

It's been tweeted 35 times (including by reporters at Sacramento Bee and USAToday)

And it's been shared on Facebook 647 times (including by current and former Cal players and several current coaches wives)

That is so cool that so many people have had fun with this!

GO BEARS!!!
Creeping Incrementalism
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Definitely a story worth bringing up if you love rivalries, nostalgia, and simply going through boxes of old stuff. I hadn't heard of the fake Daly Cals until this thread either.
TheFiatLux
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Cal89;842404788 said:

Mighty cool. Thanks much for sharing. I was traveling abroad after I graduated in '89, so I missed this....

The whole Bay Area was the 415 area code? I don't think so as San Jose, Santa Clara et al were 408, I'm pretty sure. Also, for the rankings, it would nice to link to the global rankings where we have the edge on Stanford.

Thanks again.


You raised a good point about the rankings so I edited to provide another link ;-)
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Creeping Incrementalism;842405279 said:

Definitely a story worth bringing up if you love rivalries, nostalgia, and simply going through boxes of old stuff. I hadn't heard of the fake Daly Cals until this thread either.


Gotta hand it to those bastards, the fake DCs were very well done:
1. 1975, Cal back on probation, Big Game result overturned.
2. 1982, NCAA rules that The Play was invalid, Big Game result overturned.
Cal8285
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Big C_Cal;842405406 said:

Gotta hand it to those bastards, the fake DCs were very well done:
1. 1975, Cal back on probation, Big Game result overturned.
2. 1982, NCAA rules that The Play was invalid, Big Game result overturned.
To be clear, the 1975 fake was before the game, it didn't have the result of the game overturned. In 1975, the winner of the Big Game would go to the Rose Bowl IF SC could tie or beat UCLA. Hence, there was much excitement coming into the game, both teams having only one conference loss, both to UCLA. Both teams were good. Cal was better, as was proven in the game.

The fake Daily Cal sought to get students and other fans who saw the paper depressed BEFORE the game, by saying Muncie was ineligible to play in the Big Game, and Cal was ineligible for the Rose Bowl. The game was still going to happen, but without the guy who deserved the Heisman that year. My heart dropped 20 feet when I first saw that paper. It took close inspection to see the hoax, it WAS very well done. Fortunately, in spite of the basic allegations about Muncie actually being true, the NCAA didn't know, Muncie played the Big Game, and our Rose Bowl hopes were alive.

In spite of his fake ineligibility, Muncie ran for a TD, caught a pass for a TD, and threw for a TD as we smashed Stanford. In spite of the fake ineligibility for the Rose Bowl, our Rose Bowl hopes were very much alive the Friday after Thanksgiving as SC played UCLA. The sad ending, of course, is that in spite of 8,732 fumbles by UCLA (ok, ok, maybe it was only 11), SC tanked, and didn't care at all about a chance to tie at the end, and lost by 3, dashing our Rose Bowl hopes into a million pieces. At least it was less heartbreaking than if the fake DC had been true. I think.
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Cal8285;842405414 said:

To be clear, the 1975 fake was before the game, it didn't have the result of the game overturned. In 1975, the winner of the Big Game would go to the Rose Bowl IF SC could tie or beat UCLA. Hence, there was much excitement coming into the game, both teams having only one conference loss, both to UCLA. Both teams were good. Cal was better, as was proven in the game.

The fake Daily Cal sought to get students and other fans who saw the paper depressed BEFORE the game, by saying Muncie was ineligible to play in the Big Game, and Cal was ineligible for the Rose Bowl. The game was still going to happen, but without the guy who deserved the Heisman that year. My heart dropped 20 feet when I first saw that paper. It took close inspection to see the hoax, it WAS very well done. Fortunately, in spite of the basic allegations about Muncie actually being true, the NCAA didn't know, Muncie played the Big Game, and our Rose Bowl hopes were alive.

In spite of his fake ineligibility, Muncie ran for a TD, caught a pass for a TD, and threw for a TD as we smashed Stanford. In spite of the fake ineligibility for the Rose Bowl, our Rose Bowl hopes were very much alive the Friday after Thanksgiving as SC played UCLA. The sad ending, of course, is that in spite of 8,732 fumbles by UCLA (ok, ok, maybe it was only 11), SC tanked, and didn't care at all about a chance to tie at the end, and lost by 3, dashing our Rose Bowl hopes into a million pieces. At least it was less heartbreaking than if the fake DC had been true. I think.


Thanks for the clarification. I also remember one of the dildo Bay Area Sportscasters coming on the air late that season with an exclusive: "There is no Chuck Muncie enrolled at Cal! Details at 11!" Very quickly thereafter, he had to say "nevermind" as there WAS a "Harry Vance Muncie" (real name) enrolled (but don't ask me how he was doing in his classes).

That USC/UCLA game was a nightmare. 8185, you might remember if this was true: I seem to remember that USC, on that last drive where they refused to kick a field goal to tie, had actually gotten into the end zone, but the play was called back on a penalty (In other words, for about 2 seconds, I thought we were in the Rose Bowl.). I was a stupid freshman that year and, though profoundly disappointed, remember thinking that we'd just go to the Rose Bowl the NEXT year. Now, here we are in 2014. Holy sh!t, we are loyal, aren't we?

Go Bears!
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xultaif;842404962 said:

Tom, I don't think you guys got chased, did you? I vividly remember us all meeting at Senior Hall and being on such a high... and then being at Raleighs that night and seeing the news broadcasts on channel 7 (couldn't find that vid) and the whole place going nuts.



Yep, we had exhausted most of our flyer supply at that point so when the axe committee confronted us, we gave the old college try at bluffing our way out but at some point it was clear they weren't buying what we were spinning. They were getting increasingly agitated and started following and harassing us, and at some point we just decided to make a run for it as the lynch mob was beginning to swell. Fortunately the damage was done.

In this era of social media and omnipresent cell phones I don't think we could have had the same effect.

Were you part of the group that went down with the stencils & spray paint the year before (okayado posted an article elsewhere in the thread) ? Lot of the same core folks...Or the year after when we tried to flyer bomb (from a plane) one of their big game rallies? The flyers were 3"x3" blue and gold pieces of cut copy paper with various disparaging statements adorned with the oski head. Unfortunately prevailing winds didn't co-operate or it would have been epic. We did find them all over campus after the rally but none fell on it.

Good times, we should organize a. BUST reunion!, maybe invite the Phoenix 5 along to trade war stories.
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AUOso;842405425 said:

Or the year after when we tried to flyer bomb (from a plane) one of their big game rallies? The flyers were 3"x3" blue and gold pieces of cut copy paper with various disparaging statements adorned with the oski head. Unfortunately prevailing winds didn't co-operate or it would have been epic. We did find them all over campus after the rally but none fell on it..


No way, are you serious? What was your bombing altitude? I guess you dumped it all out on one run without doing a first run to gauge the wind?
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Creeping Incrementalism;842405662 said:

No way, are you serious? What was your bombing altitude? I guess you dumped it all out on one run without doing a first run to gauge the wind?



No idea, I wasn't the pilot or on the plane. He seemed to think he knew what he was doing but he obviously didn't...it was night time in pre cell phone days....it wasn't precision bombing by any means.
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xultaif;842405140 said:

That blog post has almost tripled my previous high for a blog post!

Right now it has almost 7K views

In order of where visitors come from:
1 - Facebook
2 - California Golden Blogs
3 - Reddit
4 - Twitter
5 - The Cardboard (never heard of it but a Stanfurd site)
6 - BearInsider (but that's not really fair because I linked to my facebook post here)

To Country views:
1 - USA
2 - UK
3 - Australia
4 - Canada
5 - Germany
6 - India
7 - Taiwan
8 - France
9- Brazil
10 - Japan

It's been tweeted 35 times (including by reporters at Sacramento Bee and USAToday)

And it's been shared on Facebook 647 times (including by current and former Cal players and several current coaches wives)

That is so cool that so many people have had fun with this!

GO BEARS!!!


It's hysterical reading the Cardboard thread talking about your story. Half of them are challenging the idea that we weren't all running around using email and cell phones in 1990 (of course at Stanford they were all living in the future and using iPhones I'm sure) and the other half are claiming the rally went off without a hitch. Thank God you have the video evidence to rebut the later. On the former no rebuttal needed.
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Judgment v. Judgement is more US v. UK.
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Sebastabear;842405698 said:

It's hysterical reading the Cardboard thread talking about your story. Half of them are challenging the idea that we weren't all running around using email and cell phones in 1990 (of course at Stanford they were all living in the future and using iPhones I'm sure) and the other half are claiming the rally went off without a hitch. Thank God you have the video evidence to rebut the later. On the former no rebuttal needed.


furdies are great at hysteria, hyperbole, lies and bigger lies
... and in their dream girl KindaSleazy Rice's case, HUGE LIE and PEOPLE DIE.

It's the way of the junior university named furd, the name of one of the Robber Barons.
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Sebastabear;842405698 said:

It's hysterical reading the Cardboard thread talking about your story. Half of them are challenging the idea that we weren't all running around using email and cell phones in 1990 (of course at Stanford they were all living in the future and using iPhones I'm sure) and the other half are claiming the rally went off without a hitch. Thank God you have the video evidence to rebut the later. On the former no rebuttal needed.


It cracks me up! Eventually it went off, but sort of the tree falling in the forest with no one to hear (basically every Stanford football game). I mean, I've got an 11:30 PM newscast saying "still no bonfire" and an article in the examiner the next day saying it was snuffed... THAT is the reality ;-)
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BTW, it's now been viewed almost 10K times and it's been shared on facebook 1,500 times, which is just mind boggling to me!

THIS is how you win the PR battle ;-)
bear2034
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Great story, thanks for sharing!
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what happened to this story? I cannot find it here, on CGB, nor iamfiatlux anymore
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bwok1313 said:

what happened to this story? I cannot find it here, on CGB, nor iamfiatlux anymore
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