Vandalus;842458531 said:

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15 years ago kleeberger was not great. Far from it in my opinion. From personal experience, that place was a rats nest. The stitching was coming up, it was hot, and the padding wasn't considtent. I hated that field each time I had to do workouts on it. If it was updated in the last 15 I take it back, but I had not heard of any changes since then.

Now, everything you brought up concerning issues with the infill should be researched as there are some concerning trends as you've noted. But that field was crap.

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Yeah, for football I would imagine it sucked bad. For intramural softball and soccer in tennis shoes, though, it was a blast.

Is that the Claremont Hotel off to the right?

bearsandgiants;842458524 said:

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It was great on kleeberger, if it's the same stuff. But it also apparently caused a bunch of cancers for lifetimers on the phillies. that was in high heat, though, so who knows. at least it's not crumb rubber infill from tires, which has led to multiple cancers of goalies around the country, and at UW, where the problem was first noticed. also, studies have shown a HUGE increase in knee injuries at the college and pro football levels on the infill stuff. girls apparently don't get hurt as often, so it's gotta be the heavy dudes with so much torque and the turf grabbing the cleats with no give. nike has an infill product that only costs about 20k more and is supposed to not cause cancer. it's made of old shoes. anyway, it seems so crazy to use any of this stuff at a place like Cal, where we're supposed to be ahead of the game in scientific research. it's disappointing, really. these fields are going in all over the country because they're low maintenance. just watch what happens to health in 20 years. i wish we could be like the EU in virtually all aspects of consumer health. test FIRST, then approve. not in the good ole U S and A.

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You are misusing the word "caused".

Schroeder71;842458560 said:

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Is that the Claremont Hotel off to the right?

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Surely you jest.

S71, that's Bowles Hall, an all-male dorm.

86Oski;842458682 said:

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S71, that's Bowles Hall, an all-male dorm.

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Well it was all male. It will be a refurbished residential college in a year or two. One that still straddles the Hayward fault.

MB, what is the material with the dark surface that surrounds the field? I cannot tell from the photo.

The general undergrad students used to be able to use Hearst grass field for a variety of rec activities, etc, but it is in such bad shape, you are asking for an ankle injury.
Just needs resurfacing, and not a lot of underneath stuff.
Would be a good deal if Hearst could be next on the list of fix up.

Club men's women's vball used to have a VERY profitable fund raising grass tourney there,....for grass vb players from all over the Bay Area. The grass vb players from all over, REFUSE to play on Hearst now.

Not sure who else uses Hearst now??? Just a bad bad field.

ColoradoBear1;842458731 said:

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Well it was all male. It will be a refurbished residential college in a year or two.

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(In best Johnny Carson voice): I did not know that.

ColoradoBear1;842458731 said:

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Well it was all male. It will be a refurbished residential college in a year or two. One that still straddles the Hayward fault.

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Believe it's closing down this summer and should be open by 2016 Fall move-in.

The continual removal of fields from the students for athletes is a shame. Kleeberger and Underhill taken off the map leave very little space for rec. They need to address the situation with People's Park.

Start bulldozing on a monday night and have the hole dug by friday. Retail at street level, cafeteria on level 2, three levels of parking with a field on top.

GoCal80;842458473 said:

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Are we taking away too many athletic fields from the general undergraduate population? Where can regular Cal undergraduates go these days to toss a frisbee or play a pickup game of soccer or touch football?

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Grass field between Doe and Moffitt, where the WW II-era portables were for 50 years. That was made into a large open grassy area when the underground stacks between Moffitt and Doe were put in, and is ideal for casual recreation. The real problem, I suspect, is for space for intramurals, which really need formal fields that are in short supply.

Thankyou for the correction, guys. For those of you that don't know, I'm a UCSB alum. I applied to Cal-Berkeley, UC Santa Barbara and UC Santa Cruz during the summer of love, 1967. I never heard back from Cal. My step father who passed away in 2011 at age 90, was a graduate of Berkeley HS and sold programs in Memorial during the Pappy's Boys era. He began taking me up to Cal games when I was 9 or 10. I think that the first game that I attended was against Notre Dame (w/ infamous dirty player, Monty Stickles) in either 1958 or 59...GO BEARS!

Schroeder71;842459202 said:

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Thankyou for the correction, guys. For those of you that don't know, I'm a UCSB alum. I applied to Cal-Berkeley, UC Santa Barbara and UC Santa Cruz during the summer of love, 1967. I never heard back from Cal. My step father who passed away in 2011 at age 90, was a graduate of Berkeley HS and sold programs in Memorial during the Pappy's Boys era. He began taking me up to Cal games when I was 9 or 10. I think that the first game that I attended was against Notre Dame (w/ infamous dirty player, Monty Stickles) in either 1958 or 59...GO BEARS!

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lil history .. thanks for sharing

Jeff82;842459196 said:

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Grass field between Doe and Moffitt, where the WW II-era portables were for 50 years. That was made into a large open grassy area when the underground stacks between Moffitt and Doe were put in, and is ideal for casual recreation. The real problem, I suspect, is for space for intramurals, which really need formal fields that are in short supply.

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I believe that's Memorial Glade? There's a bit of slope to it but it's great for a warm day.

There's a new field on top of the Underhill lot that gets a lot of IM use. The Hearst fields are a bit limited as they get a lot of construction offices, I'm not sure what their current state is.

This ain't your daddy's Kleeberger Field. Man...miss those days of playing IM softball there. Hated the teams that were good enough to just keep hitting doubles of the west side "green monster" fence.

CannonBlast;842459219 said:

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This ain't your daddy's Kleeberger Field. Man...miss those days of playing IM softball there. Hated the teams that were good enough to just keep hitting doubles of the west side "green monster" fence.

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Played IM flag football at Kleeberger. Played IM softball at Underhill -- nice clean bounces. After Ryan Drew finished his eligibility in hoops, he would umpire IM softball games and he drew (pun intended) some of our games.

CannonBlast;842459219 said:

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This ain't your daddy's Kleeberger Field. Man...miss those days of playing IM softball there. Hated the teams that were good enough to just keep hitting doubles of the west side "green monster" fence.

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I remember those short right fields and hitting the fence on Gayley...those were fun. BTW, astroturf for softball was great. Easy hops, better footing. I remember playing UCPD at Underhill...nothing like the same line-up for years.

CannonBlast;842459219 said:

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This ain't your daddy's Kleeberger Field. Man...miss those days of playing IM softball there. Hated the teams that were good enough to just keep hitting doubles of the west side "green monster" fence.

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That was my team. Sometimes we would put up 20 runs in the first inning, all by hitting liners off the right field wall. Good times.

Oski87;842459194 said:

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They need to address the situation with People's Park. Start bulldozing on a monday night and have the hole dug by friday. Retail at street level, cafeteria on level 2, three levels of parking with a field on top.

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Sounds like a great plan to me! As a side benefit, we get rid of a really seedy block and make the whole surrounding area much safer. Wish our admin had the balls to do it.

... Or the $.

turkey02;842459207 said:

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I believe that's Memorial Glade? There's a bit of slope to it but it's great for a warm day.

There's a new field on top of the Underhill lot that gets a lot of IM use. The Hearst fields are a bit limited as they get a lot of construction offices, I'm not sure what their current state is.

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That's where the new field hockey field is supposed to ultimately go. Not clear whether the hockey field will be available for alternate student uses when the women aren't using it.

Jeff82;842460182 said:

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That's where the new field hockey field is supposed to ultimately go. Not clear whether the hockey field will be available for alternate student uses when the women aren't using it.

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Ah, thanks for the clarification.