a totally other viewpoint, frankly it sounds correct to me!!!

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oskigobears
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Ken from Berkeley writes: If you look at the types of student-athletes Sonny Dykes' coaching is attracting to Cal, isn't Cal on a pathway towards having probably the best graduation rate at Cal in decades, if not ever? And I am looking out another three years. Given the absolute and astonishing mess he inherited, isn't that worth Coach of the Year in terms of respectability?

Ted Miller: Ken's letter was about 700 words, so we had to reduce it to his lead question. It also gave me that warm glow that I always get from the complete intellectual investment Cal fans often make in their team, though I promise I'm not intending to provoke the California Golden Blogs to publish a 10,000-word point-counterpoint on what the heck my response here means.

Well, not entirely.

Dykes has done an outstanding job at Cal and he deserves an extension and a raise, and perhaps some kind words from the CGB.

I realize that 5-0 start and national ranking enlarged preseason hopes, and those enlarged hopes got quashed by a resulting four-game losing streak. But let me ask: Old Blues, who wouldn't have taken a 6-4 record heading into the Big Game in August?

I know there's a sense of "We're wasting Jared Goff's career!" But Cal isn't at the point where it's going to win nine or 10 games and compete for a division title. Further, as you noted Ken, Dykes is recruiting within a renewed zeal for Berkeley-like academics within the sports program that wasn't present under Jeff Tedford, and that makes his job more difficult.

If Cal beats Stanford on Saturday, I'd say he deserves some Pac-12 Coach of the Year consideration. But even if it doesn't, his getting the Bears back to the postseason represents him meeting fair and reasonable preseason expectations. That deserves at least a tip of the cap.
socaliganbear
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Loser talk.
510Bear
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Seems like a lot of media, donors, and fans are buying into the idea that Cal football has a permanent 7-win ceiling and that we should readjust our goals to being as close to that as possible.
GB54
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Coach of the year, wtf

Stop with the Special Olympics thinking
moonpod
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Dykes overall recruiting results are hovering in the bottom third of the pac. that's some zeal
BearlyCareAnymore
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oskigobears;842598394 said:

Ken from Berkeley writes: If you look at the types of student-athletes Sonny Dykes' coaching is attracting to Cal, isn't Cal on a pathway towards having probably the best graduation rate at Cal in decades, if not ever? And I am looking out another three years. Given the absolute and astonishing mess he inherited, isn't that worth Coach of the Year in terms of respectability?

Ted Miller: Ken's letter was about 700 words, so we had to reduce it to his lead question. It also gave me that warm glow that I always get from the complete intellectual investment Cal fans often make in their team, though I promise I'm not intending to provoke the California Golden Blogs to publish a 10,000-word point-counterpoint on what the heck my response here means.

Well, not entirely.

Dykes has done an outstanding job at Cal and he deserves an extension and a raise, and perhaps some kind words from the CGB.

I realize that 5-0 start and national ranking enlarged preseason hopes, and those enlarged hopes got quashed by a resulting four-game losing streak. But let me ask: Old Blues, who wouldn't have taken a 6-4 record heading into the Big Game in August?

I know there's a sense of "We're wasting Jared Goff's career!" But Cal isn't at the point where it's going to win nine or 10 games and compete for a division title. Further, as you noted Ken, Dykes is recruiting within a renewed zeal for Berkeley-like academics within the sports program that wasn't present under Jeff Tedford, and that makes his job more difficult.

If Cal beats Stanford on Saturday, I'd say he deserves some Pac-12 Coach of the Year consideration. But even if it doesn't, his getting the Bears back to the postseason represents him meeting fair and reasonable preseason expectations. That deserves at least a tip of the cap.


It's what Cal always gets from outsiders. A pat on the head and a "that's really nice...For Cal
bearingup
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The real losers are on this rather silly board, who can't see the steady progress in building a program, or the significant improvement both on the field and in the classroom. Back to your life as internet keyboard "experts," a good place to hide from your own failures. Little wonder BI has become such a small and irrelevant place, useful only for an occasional tidbit of information or a head shaking laugh. Good thing neither our players nor our coaches pay any attention to you. Now get back to your pretend world of firing coaches and belittling the players.
oskidunker
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Fire Dykes!
sycasey
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OaktownBear;842598413 said:

It's what Cal always gets from outsiders. A pat on the head and a "that's really nice...For Cal


People said the same thing when we fired Tedford. Couldn't understand it.

It was still the right call.
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bearingup;842598430 said:

The real losers are on this rather silly board, who can't see the steady progress in building a program, or the significant improvement both on the field and in the classroom. Back to your life as internet keyboard "experts," a good place to hide from your own failures. Little wonder BI has become such a small and irrelevant place, useful only for an occasional tidbit of information or a head shaking laugh. Good thing neither our players nor our coaches pay any attention to you. Now get back to your pretend world of firing coaches and belittling the players.


Thank you. I'm not happy that we haven't beaten any of our main rivals for a while, but I have to smile at all of the posters here who have the coaching situation all figured out. I hope that posting diatribes is therapeutic to them, because the odds are that this staff will be around a while longer. This a major rebuild situation.

As always...
:gobears:
BearlyCareAnymore
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bearingup;842598430 said:

The real losers are on this rather silly board, who can't see the steady progress in building a program, or the significant improvement both on the field and in the classroom. Back to your life as internet keyboard "experts," a good place to hide from your own failures. Little wonder BI has become such a small and irrelevant place, useful only for an occasional tidbit of information or a head shaking laugh. Good thing neither our players nor our coaches pay any attention to you. Now get back to your pretend world of firing coaches and belittling the players.


Most experience of any Power 5 team. 3-6 in conference last year. 3-5 this year. 11th in single season APR.

Mmmmmmmm. Progress.
Our Domicile
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7-win seasons and the minor bowl game on a yearly basis are acceptable for the most part..but the Dukes and Northwesterns of the world seem more dangerous and respected than Cal and Mike Leach scares me more than Tony Franklin when his offense has the ball.

There's something "soft" about Cal that I don't see from say, Virginia or Georgia Tech or even Colorado. You don't need "thugs" (this goes beyond players, I'm talking about the coaches as well), but there has to be a degree of scrappiness and fight in a program's image that is gained from how they play and I don't see it from Cal. I actually watch some Service Academy games just to see this "spirit" emanating from smaller, slower players.

To me I guess it's not what you achieve (whether high or low), it's how you look doing it. A Star Wars offense operated by Jar-Jar Binks just doesn't do it for me and maybe other people as well.
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chazzed;842598449 said:

Thank you. I'm not happy that we haven't beaten any of our main rivals for a while, but I have to smile at all of the posters here who have the coaching situation all figured out. I hope that posting diatribes is therapeutic to them, because the odds are that this staff will be around a while longer. This a major rebuild situation.

As always...
:gobears:


Interesting contrast of game behavior between latter-Tedford and current Dykes.
JT hid inside his panchos, like a recluse, clutching his HUGE playbook, most plays of which couldn't even get practice reps.
SD roams the sidelines screaming with a red face at refs, to the point where his assistants have to get him away before we get penalized.
Needed is a coach who will risk NOT getting 3 points against a superior opponent because he wants the team to win.
JT took no risks, hiding. SD takes no risks, screaming.
Result: same old, same old ... Theder, et.al., redux.
slotright20
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GB54;842598408 said:

Coach of the year, wtf

Stop with the Special Olympics thinking


Greatness GB.
pgduhe
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really? So our goal is mediorcity?
moonpod
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pgduhe;842598507 said:

really? So our goal is mediorcity?


Apparently some believe that
59bear
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I don't think many of us have it all figured out, but we have figured out Dykes is not the answer. Actually, some of us knew that the day his hiring was announced.
philly1121
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GB54;842598408 said:

Coach of the year, wtf

Stop with the Special Olympics thinking


Lol!! Epic.
okaydo
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Dykes deserves credit for being one of the rare 9 (possibly 10) Pac-12 teams that's going bowling.
heartofthebear
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oskigobears;842598394 said:

Ken from Berkeley writes: If you look at the types of student-athletes Sonny Dykes' coaching is attracting to Cal, isn't Cal on a pathway towards having probably the best graduation rate at Cal in decades, if not ever? And I am looking out another three years. Given the absolute and astonishing mess he inherited, isn't that worth Coach of the Year in terms of respectability?

Ted Miller: Ken's letter was about 700 words, so we had to reduce it to his lead question. It also gave me that warm glow that I always get from the complete intellectual investment Cal fans often make in their team, though I promise I'm not intending to provoke the California Golden Blogs to publish a 10,000-word point-counterpoint on what the heck my response here means.

Well, not entirely.

Dykes has done an outstanding job at Cal and he deserves an extension and a raise, and perhaps some kind words from the CGB.

I realize that 5-0 start and national ranking enlarged preseason hopes, and those enlarged hopes got quashed by a resulting four-game losing streak. But let me ask: Old Blues, who wouldn't have taken a 6-4 record heading into the Big Game in August?

I know there's a sense of "We're wasting Jared Goff's career!" But Cal isn't at the point where it's going to win nine or 10 games and compete for a division title. Further, as you noted Ken, Dykes is recruiting within a renewed zeal for Berkeley-like academics within the sports program that wasn't present under Jeff Tedford, and that makes his job more difficult.

If Cal beats Stanford on Saturday, I'd say he deserves some Pac-12 Coach of the Year consideration. But even if it doesn't, his getting the Bears back to the postseason represents him meeting fair and reasonable preseason expectations. That deserves at least a tip of the cap.


The media actually benefits if Cal remains a loser.
Look at the markets.
The sports entertainment conglomerates like ESPN, Ted's employer, get a larger market if teams like USC and UCLA are doing well. Teams like Oregon and furd have tons of $$ to be able to sell their product to the media as well. So it is no accident that those are the top teams.

When Cal does well, it does not draw like other teams.
So, yeah, guys like Ted are going to have no problem with guys like Dykes coaching at Cal. Everybody loves a mediocre Cal, including Cal apparently. After all, they are about to become contractually linked to it.

As for us fans, what does Cal care? They can make more money from their TV contracts than they can from us.
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