Cal88;842603893 said:
You're getting into Schroedinger territory here. ASU and UW only have a losing record because we beat them. Had we lost to them, they would have had a winning record.
Going into the ASU game, our Sagarin ranking was in the low 20s. If we win our bowl game we will deserve to finish this season ranked.
Indeed, both ASU and UW having losing conference records because Cal was one of their Pac-12 losses; a Cal team that is the best we fielded since 2011.
A good team wins the majority of its games, probably a definition most would accept. A good Pac-12 team is one that wins the majority of its conference games...
ASU and UW are not good Pac-12 teams, as demonstrated throughout the course of the season - not simply because our best team in 4 years beat them.
Again, this is the worst ASU team since 2011, the worst UW since 2009...
Related, the 2015 Beavs are the worst in like 3+ decades. The Ducks, who finished strong, they had their worst team in at least a couple years...
If we win our bowl game, convincingly too, we might get "other votes", but no way ranked in the the Top 25 - and deservedly so. Good teams find ways to beat good teams... We are currently not ranked in the Top 25 nor receiving such votes for that reason. ASU is a middling team and we are apt to play a middling team in some bowl... Stanford was the last good team we played. The Cougs are our only good team win and we were favored by 19 in that one...
As stated in another thread, this win is now my favorite one in the SD era, mostly because it was the last game of the regular season, and that we avoided a 1-6 repeat close. It also indicates to me that this team is firmly behind its HC and staff; and that means a ton to me. IMO, a very meaningful win. The offense was finally potent, albeit against the 11th best pass D in the Pac-12, now the worst...
