Please just entertain me with why you are standing behind him at this point? He's obviously looking for a way out.

tim94501;842608748 said:

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Please just entertain me with why you are standing behind him at this point? He's obviously looking for a way out.

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they've got that battered fan syndrome. always go for the low hanging fruit in bars type.

Because I don't trust who the "donors" choose as our next coach.

at this point, with all the crap in the twittersphere, I've become ambivalent, and am somewhat interested in who a new coach could be. Without the mental check or moving on stuff, I was fine with him coming back. On the other hand, if admin turns out to once again go for a cheap option, I won't be too happy. Cheap to me means not providing the necessary capital to hire capable asst. coaches.

FrankBear21;842608755 said:

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Because I don't trust who the "donors" choose as our next coach.

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Just think how cheap we would be WITHOUT the donors' money.

997 after the embarrassing Tedford results.

A winning record, with average players, on average.

He drives a comped Buick instead of some foreign car.

Because he ended the streak. Our ten 10 game win streak we had against WSU. That is why I like Dykes. Becuase our D had been lights out with him at the helm

He's the best coach we can get and if you don't agree your flat out wrong

I don't blame Sonny for looking around, if I could double my pay (and get big increases for my staff) I would certainly talk to some people before signing another deal at my current spot!

With the twitter stuff, who knows how much is real/fake, etc. Most of these guys are just throwing out names trying to get clicks/followers. For example, we know that Tedford coming back is clearly not happening, some guy with no knowledge of the situation just threw that out there!

I don't know if Sonny is the greatest coach in the world, but he has turned around an academic dumpster fire, brought in quality guys, and we are improving. All for the lowest salary in the league.

At this point, I just want a resolution in the next day or so, we need to focus on recruiting and this indecision will cost us recruits. I agree with those who say we need to give him a deadline on signing the extension.

I object to the use of Dykes and Defenders(or defense)!

DavisBear;842608778 said:

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I don't blame Sonny for looking around, if I could double my pay (and get big increases for my staff) I would certainly talk to some people before signing another deal at my current spot!

With the twitter stuff, who knows how much is real/fake, etc. Most of these guys are just throwing out names trying to get clicks/followers. For example, we know that Tedford coming back is clearly not happening, some guy with no knowledge of the situation just threw that out there!

I don't know if Sonny is the greatest coach in the world, but he has turned around an academic dumpster fire, brought in quality guys, and we are improving. All for the lowest salary in the league.

At this point, I just want a resolution in the next day or so, we need to focus on recruiting and this indecision will cost us recruits. I agree with those who say we need to give him a deadline on signing the extension.

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So you'd take tosh back then.

Dykes should be defended because...

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Tedford left such a mess

1-11 year should be forgotten because Tedford left such a mess

Horrible hire Andy Buh is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess. Dykes can't possibly be blamed

Terrible Special Teams play is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

5-7 year is amazing achievement, because it's an enormous improvement over 1-11

Cal defense setting NCAA records, for the wrong reasons, is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

7-5 this year is achievement beyond measure and Dykes deserves all the glory. The two blowout losses are Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

Goff's great play is a testament to Dykes' great coaching ability. His erratic play in the 5 losses are Tedford's facult, because he left such a mess

OL woes are obviously not Dykes' fault, because Tedford left such a mess

Dykes fixed graduation rates that Tedford messed up so badly. Besides, 3-9 is OK as long as Cal remains "Yale of the West."



Tedford left such a mess, so it doesn't matter Dykes gifted Cal with 0-12 against Stanford, USC, UCLA, and Oregon. It was Tedford's fault. Ergo, Sunshine Dykes deserves a raise, an extension, and a fair chance to make Cal the next Oregon State.

MinotStateBeav;842608780 said:

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I object to the use of Dykes and Defenders(or defense)!

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Lol, that was my 1st impression too.

MinotStateBeav;842608780 said:

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I object to the use of Dykes and Defenders(or defense)!

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Pride Week '16 is June 25-26 in SF.

FremontBear;842608782 said:

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Dykes should be defended because...

[LIST=1]

Tedford left such a mess

1-11 year should be forgotten because Tedford left such a mess

Horrible hire Andy Buh is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess. Dykes can't possibly be blamed

Terrible Special Teams play is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

5-7 year is amazing achievement, because it's an enormous improvement over 1-11

Cal defense setting NCAA records, for the wrong reasons, is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

7-5 this year is achievement beyond measure and Dykes deserves all the glory. The two blowout losses are Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

Goff's great play is a testament to Dykes' great coaching ability. His erratic play in the 5 losses are Tedford's facult, because he left such a mess

OL woes are obviously not Dykes' fault, because Tedford left such a mess

Dykes fixed graduation rates that Tedford messed up so badly. Besides, 3-9 is OK as long as Cal remains "Yale of the West."



Tedford left such a mess, so it doesn't matter Dykes gifted Cal with 0-12 against Stanford, USC, UCLA, and Oregon. It was Tedford's fault. Ergo, Sunshine Dykes deserves a raise, an extension, and a fair chance to make Cal the next Oregon State.

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Ironically, the same people saying Dykes isn't responsible because of the mess Tedford left him, were probably the people who didn't want Teddy fired in 2012.

Any change is bad change.

SRBear;842608756 said:

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at this point, with all the crap in the twittersphere, I've become ambivalent, and am somewhat interested in who a new coach could be. Without the mental check or moving on stuff, I was fine with him coming back. On the other hand, if admin turns out to once again go for a cheap option, I won't be too happy. Cheap to me means not providing the necessary capital to hire capable asst. coaches.

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I think we've all become agnostic towards Sonny ... and Mike. But Hue is taking me to church!

Well, since Tosh lit the match for the first dumpster fire, you'd have to call in this guy to fix it for him...

This board is so amusing at times like these. Why do those wanting him fired care what "Dykes defenders" want? They don't appear to care about anything but their unhealthy obsession of getting him ousted.

Dbearson;842608775 said:

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He's the best coach we can get and if you don't agree your flat out wrong

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One of the strongest arguments ever posted on BI

FremontBear;842608782 said:

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Dykes should be defended because...

[LIST=1]

Tedford left such a mess

1-11 year should be forgotten because Tedford left such a mess

Horrible hire Andy Buh is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess. Dykes can't possibly be blamed

Terrible Special Teams play is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

5-7 year is amazing achievement, because it's an enormous improvement over 1-11

Cal defense setting NCAA records, for the wrong reasons, is Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

7-5 this year is achievement beyond measure and Dykes deserves all the glory. The two blowout losses are Tedford's fault, because he left such a mess

Goff's great play is a testament to Dykes' great coaching ability. His erratic play in the 5 losses are Tedford's facult, because he left such a mess

OL woes are obviously not Dykes' fault, because Tedford left such a mess

Dykes fixed graduation rates that Tedford messed up so badly. Besides, 3-9 is OK as long as Cal remains "Yale of the West."



Tedford left such a mess, so it doesn't matter Dykes gifted Cal with 0-12 against Stanford, USC, UCLA, and Oregon. It was Tedford's fault. Ergo, Sunshine Dykes deserves a raise, an extension, and a fair chance to make Cal the next Oregon State.

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Love it!
It's not Cal's fault they hired Dykes, they did so because Tedford left such a mess.

chazzed;842608831 said:

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This board is so amusing at times like these. Why do those wanting him fired care what "Dykes defenders" want? They don't appear to care about anything but their unhealthy obsession of getting him ousted.

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There's obsessions and then there are generalizations.

tim94501;842608748 said:

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Please just entertain me with why you are standing behind him at this point? He's obviously looking for a way out.

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1. All the past cr*p is just the way business is conducted in sports now-a-days.

2. He has proven himself to be a competent (if not yet a great coach).

3. If he leaves Cal takes a hit on recruiting and significant hit on W-L record.

tim94501;842608748 said:

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Please just entertain me with why you are standing behind him at this point? He's obviously looking for a way out.

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I base my opinions on facts. Nearly zero exist at this point. All I know is that he interviewed for the Missouri job, which I believe to be a good job. All the other stuff is driven by Dykes offenders.

We should keep Dykes because of his development of Brendan Bigelow who showed a great deal of promise under Tedford but only developed once Dykes came along.

We should keep Dykes. I mean look at all of the success Keenan Allen, Desean, Marshawn, Rodgers, CJ Anderson, etc. are having in the league. Oh wait..

tim94501;842608748 said:

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Please just entertain me with why you are standing behind him at this point? He's obviously looking for a way out.

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Ooooooh, the board trolls calling out the Sunshine Pumpers. You gonna burn us with you searing logic and clever use of the word "just," timmy?
I think I hear your dog trapped down a well.

bigcocoon007;842608954 said:

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We should keep Dykes. I mean look at all of the success Keenan Allen, Desean, Marshawn, Rodgers, CJ Anderson, etc. are having in the league. Oh wait..

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Which resulted in how many championships when they played college football for Cal?

BTW, we're discussing COLLEGE football, not "the league" about which many don't give a sh!t anymore.
Raise yer haind ifn yew caint keep up, bigcoco_nut.

SRBear;842608813 said:

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Are those Stanfurd Trees?

tim94501;842608748 said:

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Please just entertain me with why you are standing behind him at this point? He's obviously looking for a way out.

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Based on the data below, and a positive culture shift in the quality of student-athletes in the program, why would you not reasonably expect similar improvement next year? Most would agree that there is a clear football talent gap that exists between us and the upper-half of the conference, which needs to be addressed, and which will take more time. But Sonny has done everything he was hired to do, and there's no reason to think that the positive trend won't continue next year.

[FONT=Courier New]-------------- 2013 2014 2015
Reg Season Wins --1 --5 --7
Bowl? -----------no -no -yes
Yds/game -------453 -495 -524
Opp yds/game ---529 -511 -455
Turnovers ------28 --20 --22
Takeaways ------13 --17 --24
Pts Scored/seas 276 459 -438
Pts Scored/game 23 --38 --37
Pts Allowed ---551 -477 -363
Pts Allowed/gm --46 -40 --30
Penalty Yds/gm --67 -82 --45[/FONT]

GivemTheAxe;842608842 said:

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1. All the past cr*p is just the way business is conducted in sports now-a-days.

2. He has proven himself to be a competent (if not yet a great coach).

3. If he leaves Cal takes a hit on recruiting and significant hit on W-L record.

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Give me a break.
Recruiting always takes an initial hit during a coaching change.
Plus, name one player currently committed that will break into the 2 deep next season.
Maybe Weaver and one or 2 OTs and maybe Gilliam

You are going to paralyze the program over 4 HS players?

ianbearnson;842609005 said:

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Based on the data below, and a positive culture shift in the quality of student-athletes in the program, why would you not reasonably expect similar improvement next year? Most would agree that there is a clear football talent gap that exists between us and the upper-half of the conference, which needs to be addressed, and which will take more time. But Sonny has done everything he was hired to do, and there's no reason to think that the positive trend won't continue next year.

[FONT=Courier New]-------------- 2013 2014 2015
Reg Season Wins --1 --5 --7
Bowl? -----------no -no -yes
Yds/game -------453 -495 -524
Opp yds/game ---529 -511 -455
Turnovers ------28 --20 --22
Takeaways ------13 --17 --24
Pts Scored/seas 276 459 -438
Pts Scored/game 23 --38 --37
Pts Allowed ---551 -477 -363
Pts Allowed/gm --46 -40 --30
Penalty Yds/gm --67 -82 --45[/FONT]

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Record setting personnel in the passing game graduating and/or turning pro is one very good reason that even pumpers acknowledge.

ianbearnson;842609005 said:

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Based on the data below, and a positive culture shift in the quality of student-athletes in the program, why would you not reasonably expect similar improvement next year? Most would agree that there is a clear football talent gap that exists between us and the upper-half of the conference, which needs to be addressed, and which will take more time. But Sonny has done everything he was hired to do, and there's no reason to think that the positive trend won't continue next year.

[FONT=Courier New]-------------- 2013 2014 2015
Reg Season Wins --1 --5 --7
Bowl? -----------no -no -yes
Yds/game -------453 -495 -524
Opp yds/game ---529 -511 -455
Turnovers ------28 --20 --22
Takeaways ------13 --17 --24
Pts Scored/seas 276 459 -438
Pts Scored/game 23 --38 --37
Pts Allowed ---551 -477 -363
Pts Allowed/gm --46 -40 --30
Penalty Yds/gm --67 -82 --45[/FONT]

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So you are basing your positive opinion on a comparison to historically terrible stats he earned? Improvement from horrific to terrible is not a reason to defend someone if they're the ones who lowered the bar. (And if you're into stats as the be-all-end-all, check the stats vs conference teams)

GivemTheAxe;842608842 said:

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1. All the past cr*p is just the way business is conducted in sports now-a-days.

2. He has proven himself to be a competent (if not yet a great coach).

3. If he leaves Cal takes a hit on recruiting and significant hit on W-L record.

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So one winning season in three makes Dykes a "competent" coach? Not even close! This is FOOTBALL and not BASEBALL and 0.333 isn't remotely acceptable.

Why do you people refuse to acknowledge that 2013 was a Murphy's Law of football. Injuries beyond imagination, no senior leadership, one of the toughest schedules in the country - both OOC and conference, the need to start freshmen at key positions such as cornerback, one starter left from the recruiting haul of 2009, the need to have those on probation or failing to buy-in to leave the program. With all of that, you harp on 1-11. We were lucky just to field a team let alone win games.

In a short while, we will know whether Sonny is coming back or leaving. Why not ease off and let's see what happens.