What a dbag.

The original tweet is about Jared Goff and he uses it to take shots at Cal.

Sucks, but not wrong. We will be the biggest unknown team in the Pac 12 going into next year.

okaydo;842624613 said:

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Maybe we can pull a 1998 Tennessee - with Bowers/Gilliam/Forrest playing the role of Tee Martin.

Hey, a guy can dream, ok?

Surprised the jerk isn't picking us 7th...

MoragaBear;842624629 said:

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Maybe 6th? That's just a gratuitous dig.

Who in the world would pick OSU over Cal?

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Wilner, of course ... and, even this late in the year, this thread is a heavy favorite for
[SIZE=4][COLOR="#000080"] Most Useless Thread of 2015.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Wow, gave us all of 24 hours to enjoy the final game of the season. Amazing. But honestly, 6th?

grandmastapoop;842624631 said:

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Maybe we can pull a 1998 Tennessee - with Bowers/Gilliam/Forrest playing the role of Tee Martin.

Hey, a guy can dream, ok?

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Hey, Tennessee won the National Championship ('98?) the season after Payton Manning finished. It's all in the quality of the Oline and Dline. Look at Michigan State, 3 Star team but with focus on BIG tough, physical linemen. You really don't need 'swarms' of smurf wr's, rb's and celebrity qb's. The Pac 12 BIG 4 (Oregon/SC/Stanford/UCLA) neutralizes the smurf wr's with large effective db's.

Dduster;842624680 said:

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Hey, Tennessee won the National Championship ('98?) the season after Payton Manning finished. It's all in the quality of the Oline and Dline. Look at Michigan State, 3 Star team but with focus on BIG tough, physical linemen. You really don't need 'swarms' of smurf wr's, rb's and celebrity qb's. The Pac 12 BIG 4 (Oregon/SC/Stanford/UCLA) neutralizes the smurf wr's with large effective db's.

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did you watch the Oregon furd game? that's how you beat the furd. you have fast quick guys on the outside and you don't bother challenging them up the middle. ie you don't try to play their game

back to the OP: wilner is a tool

Wow on the same morning Goff announces ...

Punk Bitch stuff I feel sorry for his kids

Let's see- next season USC, Stanford, ASU, and Oregon replace their proven QBs with unknowns, just like Cal, but only Cal is now in for a tumble despite emphatically winning its bowl game, returning most of its O- line, 3 good RBs, and an improved defense. Does this make sense?

I do resent how Wlner takes a positive- Cal having another first round NFL QB - and tries to turn it into a negative. ,

Other Wilner headlines...

Newish Pope signals decline of Catholic Church
Impending retirement of British Queen signals end of royalty
Cosby indictment heralds end of Black comedians
End of term for Obama leads to doomsday scenario for USA
New Years celebrations may be the last ones for many...

Replacement of 5th year Senior QB Hogan will result in no dropoff for Cardinal...

Bulletin board material, especially for our three QB candidates.

Wasn't Wilner relatively bullish on us this past year?

annarborbear;842624696 said:

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Bulletin board material, especially for our three QB candidates.

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Whole Dammmmmmmm team

moonpod;842624684 said:

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did you watch the Oregon furd game? that's how you beat the furd. you have fast quick guys on the outside and you don't bother challenging them up the middle. ie you don't try to play their game

back to the OP: wilner is a tool

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Oregon also rushed for 230 yards and only had the pass the ball 12 times. When is the last time we rushed for over 200 against furd?

btsktr;842624727 said:

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Oregon also rushed for 230 yards and only had the pass the ball 12 times. When is the last time we rushed for over 200 against furd?

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Last time we beat them ?

XXXBEAR;842624693 said:

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Let's see- next season USC, Stanford, ASU, and Oregon replace their proven QBs with unknowns, just like Cal, but only Cal is now in for a tumble despite emphatically winning its bowl game, returning most of its O- line, 3 good RBs, and an improved defense. Does this make sense?

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USC and ASU are not in the Pac-12 North, so they are irrelevant to Wilner's prediction.

Stanford and Oregon are established programs with a strong talent pipeline. It's reasonable that pundits would expect them to "reload" quickly. Would anyone pick Cal over those teams, given that we haven't beaten either of them in ages?

WSU finished ahead of us and will be bringing most of their roster back. Washington finished with the same conference record and also brings most of their roster back. Meanwhile, Cal is losing a pretty decent amount of talent. We'll lose our first-round NFL draft pick QB, most of our WRs, and most of our defensive line. It's gonna be tough to improve on this year's record, which already had us tied for 4th place.

Wilner might be a jerk for posting this now, but he's not wrong. I don't see Cal doing better than 5th place next year unless our coaching staff REALLY steps it up and we see a bunch of players make big improvements ahead of schedule.

So... No Goff book from Wilber?

btsktr;842624727 said:

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Oregon also rushed for 230 yards and only had the pass the ball 12 times. When is the last time we rushed for over 200 against furd?

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It's all about getting to the edge they aren't that fast. But somehow teams get caught up trying to play their game. I'm by no means saying we can't stand improvements on the lines. Just saying edge speed is how you beat them. Oregon is a running spread. They should have good rushing #s in general

in terms of next year. If Oregon figures out the QB thing they will be the class of the PAC north. if they don't then who knows. They really struggled this year with Lockie

The furd will do what the furd does. teams will probably be smarter than some coaches about keeping the ball away from mccaffrey on ST, and they turn over a bunch of OL, but their rushing attack will be gnarly. Their D will have to find some DL again, but they figured it out this year on a grad transfer and a shoe string, so maybe next year too

If you believe in Peterson Washington will be on the rise, personally I think it's still jury is out.

Wazoo...you just never know with the Pirate. it's just so damn unpredictable, but yes dangerous.

OSU is soooooo far away. man. was dealing with academics at Wisconsin REALLY that bad?

XXXBEAR;842624693 said:

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Let's see- next season USC, Stanford, ASU, and Oregon replace their proven QBs with unknowns, just like Cal, but only Cal is now in for a tumble despite emphatically winning its bowl game, returning most of its O- line, 3 good RBs, and an improved defense. Does this make sense?

I do resent how Wlner takes a positive- Cal having another first round NFL QB - and tries to turn it into a negative. ,

Other Wilner headlines...

Newish Pope signals decline of Catholic Church
Impending retirement of British Queen signals end of royalty
Cosby indictment heralds end of Black comedians
End of term for Obama leads to doomsday scenario for USA
New Years celebrations may be the last ones for many...

Replacement of 5th year Senior QB Hogan will result in no dropoff for Cardinal...

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+1 for each :rollinglaugh:

That he may be right is no defense in the eyes of thin skinned Cal fans who are ever alert for bad press, bad officiating or general disrespect.

nycgobears;842624742 said:

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So... No Goff e-book from wilber?

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fify.

59bear;842624756 said:

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That he may be right is no defense in the eyes of thin skinned Cal fans who are ever alert for bad press, bad officiating or general disrespect.

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You're GD right!

okaydo;842624613 said:

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That's it, I am canceling my reserved copy of Wilner's 15 page $.49 e-book of Jared Goff.

We finished fourth this year (tied with Washington but beat them, so they are fifth), so it should be like this year- a big time success

GB54;842624765 said:

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We finished fourth this year (tied with Washington but beat them, so they are fifth), so it should be like this year- a big time success

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IF Sonny is indeed the long term answer at Cal, he has a plan for the QB transition and it shouldn't be a horrible "shock to the system". So yes. a year like this year 7 or 8 wins isn't unreasonable. I mean if Sonny has Cal on an upward trajectory that's what the expectation should be. If he doesn't well....Wilner may very well be right

okaydo;842624613 said:

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With Dykes, 4-6th place in the Pac North will continue to be par for the course. He's a nice guy to be sure, but he doesn't have the chops to make Cal competitive with the Pac-12 upper tier.

the qb and the wideouts are the important part of any air raid offense. with everyone leaving we start over. maybe we become a run oriented offense. recruiting looks good so would not be surprised if we can get six wins.

HaasBear04;842624697 said:

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Wasn't Wilner relatively bullish on us this past year?

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Uh no. His pre season prediction of our game by game wins and losses was very accurate (predicted the 5-0 start, for example) but he hates the Bear Raid, doesn't think Dykes can win at the high levels and is generally a D'bag. This is a perfect example. Could have tweeted something nice about Dykes developing Jared or Jared's accomplishments but instead does this. He's just a jerk.

calgo430;842624774 said:

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the qb and the wideouts are the important part of any air raid offense. with everyone leaving we start over. maybe we become a run oriented offense. recruiting looks good so would not be surprised if we can get six wins.

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We are a system offense. We should rack up some yards no matter who plays QB or WR. You would think out of Forrest, Bowers, and Gilliam, one guy will be able to at least be a facilitator for his first year.

Plus our o-line gelled in the last few games, and looks to be better next season. Or D is slowly progressing, and we have a decent D-line and finally some athletes (and depth) at the DB spot (which favors us playing 4-2-5). I say we having a winning record and a bowl game.

KoreAmBear;842624760 said:

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That's it, I am canceling my reserved copy of Wilner's 15 page $.49 e-book of Jared Goff.

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He's such a pr!ck.

sycasey;842624741 said:

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Wilner might be a jerk for posting this now, but he's not wrong. I don't see Cal doing better than 5th place next year unless our coaching staff REALLY steps it up and we see a bunch of players make big improvements ahead of schedule.

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Actually, he is wrong, because he says, "Maybe 6th." There is no way that anyone (well, anyone but maybe Wilner) picks Cal 6th behind OSU.

Yeah, Cal finished tied for 4th and 5th this year with UW, it is obvious that, with a new QB, writers (or coaches or other pundits) will pick Cal behind UW, and won't flip Cal ahead of WSU (or Oregon or LSJU). 5th. Correct. Any intelligent, neutral journalist would stop there. No intelligent, neutral journalist would add "maybe 6th," because even if Wilner thinks HE might pick OSU ahead of Cal, he knows the other writers well enough to know that nobody else will pick OSU ahead of Cal.

The funny thing about Wilner is that he'd rather come off as a jerk than a good journalist. He's not a jerk for posting this now, he's just a jerk, and he's a bad journalist for posting something he KNOWS isn't correct. He IS wrong. He could have made himself right by leaving it at the obvious, but since saying Cal will be picked 5th is about as interesting as saying the sky is blue, he just had to add something to make it more interesting, even if it is obviously wrong. That is not good journalism, that is being a jerk.

Well.... Chase Forest, Luke Rubenzer, Ross Bowers..... hope at least one of them really surprises us. And paired with some of our very decent running backs and a plethora of wide receivers whom we haven't see much of to date makes for a lot of interest for the upcoming Spring practice season. Not sure if we can depend upon any incoming Frosh QB, but would like to be surprised here, too.

But I still wish we had offered QB Johnny Stanton (Santa Margarita HS/Nebraska/Saddleback CC) because I saw him in person play in the California State Community College Championship game at CCSF, and he can make all the throws right now in a similar offense system as Cal's. I think he may have already signed a LOI with UNLV.

longseeker;842624812 said:

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Well.... Chase Forest, Luke Rubenzer, Ross Bowers..... hope at least one of them really surprises us. And paired with some of our very decent running backs and a plethora of wide receivers whom we haven't see much of to date makes for a lot of interest for the upcoming Spring practice season. Not sure if we can depend upon any incoming Frosh QB, but would like to be surprised here, too.

But I still wish we had offered QB Johnny Stanton (Santa Margarita HS/Nebraska/Saddleback CC) because I saw him in person play in the California State Community College Championship game at CCSF, and he can make all the throws right now in a similar offense system as Cal's. I think he may have already signed a LOI with UNLV.

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II'm going to go out on a limb and predict that BI will have more than 100 mispellings of Chase's name in 2016.