Dark Reverie;842631784 said:

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I learned that Alabama is scum. What did you all learn?

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There is no Pac team with close to the talent level of the top southern teams. Great athletes out there. Even the freaking lineman were ultra- quick.

72CalBear;842632294 said:

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I already knew that Cal isn't Bama or Clemson..really! The story for me is that we either continue to celebrate our Bears not graduating, leaving early, and going into the NFL (which we all do!), or we suggest a minor league, paid football club program that allows players the same opportunities as Bama or Clemson, but aren't called full-time students. It works for baseball and the NCAA can just wet their pants.

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I'm a degree always first person ,but this their dreams take your angst and put it out in the universe perhaps hope those that leave early come back to finish asap ...at this point nobody iss leaving early that won't go undrafted

Goff and Lawler are going to get paid can not hate ... But now expect more and more guys leaving early to get a shot at this point make sure coursework is done in next 3 yrs ?

The best players go to the pros be it soccer or race car driving and of course basketball/football

Dark Reverie;842631784 said:

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I learned that Alabama is scum. What did you all learn?

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I learned that, despite the media's opinion, Clemson was deserving.
Gotta watch out for those orange teams.

I also learned that somebody can run up the score on Alabama's vaunted defense.

72CalBear;842632294 said:

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I already knew that Cal isn't Bama or Clemson..really! The story for me is that we either continue to celebrate our Bears not graduating, leaving early, and going into the NFL (which we all do!), or we suggest a minor league, paid football club program that allows players the same opportunities as Bama or Clemson, but aren't called full-time students. It works for baseball and the NCAA can just wet their pants.

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Bingo! Been waiting for someone to bring this up. What I saw and learned Monday night was 2 NFL "AAA" teams going at it -- not CFB. Continually trying to shoe-horn "AAA" NFL football into a university system with an educational "mission" has so corrupted the whole system that it's almost beyond watching any more. I have the same complaint about College BBall, incidentally. I hate that the NFL/NBA "uses" CFB/CBB as de facto farm teams -- and I also hate that places like Alabama feed off this situation to their benefit. Certainly doesn't help the players all that much -- we have "one and done's" all over the place now. With an official minor leagues in NFL/NBA, at least the players would have the option of returning to school for an education after their long-shot pro dreams faded. And the universities could get back to what they are supposed to do -- education.

LarsBear74;842632472 said:

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Bingo! Been waiting for someone to bring this up. What I saw and learned Monday night was 2 NFL "AAA" teams going at it -- not CFB. Continually trying to shoe-horn "AAA" NFL football into a university system with an educational "mission" has so corrupted the whole system that it's almost beyond watching any more. I have the same complaint about College BBall, incidentally. I hate that the NFL/NBA "uses" CFB/CBB as de facto farm teams -- and I also hate that places like Alabama feed off this situation to their benefit. Certainly doesn't help the players all that much -- we have "one and done's" all over the place now. With an official minor leagues in NFL/NBA, at least the players would have the option of returning to school for an education after their long-shot pro dreams faded. And the universities could get back to what they are supposed to do -- education.

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That ship has sailed for Cal. We've spent more on football facilities than both Alabama and Clemson.