NYCGOBEARS;842640808 said:
Bad timing for them.
beeasyed;842640823 said:
you don't get to beat Alabama twice without paying the price
Big C_Cal;842640816 said:
It would be just our luck if the NCAA shut down The Grove right before we got to experience it.
bearsandgiants;842640839 said:
you can't get an interest-free car loan on a used car or spend the night at someone's house for two nights? i can get a new honda with 0% financing for 5 years. is that ok?
bearsandgiants;842640839 said:
you can't get an interest-free car loan on a used car or spend the night at someone's house for two nights? i can get a new honda with 0% financing for 5 years. is that ok?
Strykur;842640803 said:
NCAA just threw the book at them:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--ncaa-to-formally-charge-mississippi-with-rules-violations-193911274.html
ColoradoBear1;842640899 said:
NCAA is a joke until they do something to North Carolina.
beeasyed;842640823 said:
you don't get to beat Alabama twice without paying the price
BearDevil;842640905 said:
Carolina has a very good chance to win an NCAA title this season. They'll likely forfeit titles in 2005 (Illinois) and 2008 (Michigan State). Illinois is probably the best program not to win a title and Izzo deserves another. Those teams didn't get a chance to celebrate and cut down the nets. Illinois went 37-2.
ColoradoBear1;842640899 said:
NCAA is a joke until they do something to North Carolina.............
BGGB2;842640987 said:
+1,000
ColoradoBear1;842640899 said:
NCAA is a joke until they do something to North Carolina.
USC got popped for one VERY high profile essentially playing while ineligible. UNC internally sponsored programs to give false grades to hundreds of athletes, essentially meaning each and every one of them was playing while ineligible.
Failure to monitor vs active rule breaking.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying USC's punishment was too harsh. (2 season ban for using an ineligible bush to get to two BCS bowls is 'break even' in my book, while the scholarship reductions are the actual punishment.
I'm saying others get off too light.
MustangReb;842641050 said:
This, oh Lord, this. I'm still fuming over the punishment handed down to SMU while UNC continues to skate on around 20 years of proven academic fraud (and, no, I don't think SMU should have gotten a pass - academic fraud should always be punished when discovered and proven... and it was proven in SMU's case).
Oh, yeah... and I'm also an Ole Miss fan that lurks here and has posted in the past.
What the Forde article and the subsequent ESPN blurb didn't mention is that the allegations are primarily focused on women's basketball and track & field. The football violations include the Tunsil stuff but are mostly related to some things that happened about 6 years ago under a different staff and athletic director. Obviously, nobody knows what the sanctions will be or whether they'll even "fit the crime" given the NCAA's tendency to punish for what they think you did rather than for what they can actually prove.
NVBear78;842641054 said:
Reb, have you heard the currenr rumours about a bank ATM paying players near the stadium? Any merit to those allegations?
MustangReb;842641065 said:
Well, yeah, they got these fancy machines what spit out money when them boys put in some sort of magic card and punch in some numbers... Now I only gots a real basic knowing about that there banking and money stuff... wait, no, I have a MS in finance and find the very idea of coding the software on a specific ATM machine to fraudulently give money to football players entirely laughable.
82gradDLSdad;842641125 said:
How about something simpler than computer code...football players have access to an ATM debit card hooked to an account with donor money. Not saying this happened just that having someone on the 'inside' manipulating computer code is about the stupidest way to do this. Makes for a good movie though.
MustangReb;842641160 said:
Actually, if you're going to do something like that you avoid creating any sort of paper trail at all. Using a bank to facilitate those kinds of payments creates a paper trail and, depending on the size of the transactions, has to be reported under AML laws. Also, strings of suspicious transactions (3rd party deposits) are likely to get flagged by the bank's compliance people who probably aren't in on the scheme. Nah... the ATM myth has been floated about a number of schools and it's generally just a myth. It's far easier and much less traceable to just have the "friendly booster" pull a bit extra on his weekly ATM run and hand over cash.
.SonOfCalVa;842641199 said:
There are certain schools who should be disallowed from NCAA sanctioned sports based upon a variety of circumstances.
In that way, semi-pro teams could arise, but be kept separate from sanctioned NCAA events and even academic requirements.
Baseball is the obvious example. Why fuss about the "wink-wink" hypocrisy when there are ways to deal with the NCAA crap. If Alabama/tOSU et.al. want to run those kinds of programs, so be it, but they can't compete against schools who (largely, but at risk of penalty if they don't) play by the monitored rules.
Missy Franklin is an example of a top Olympic athlete who wanted a Cal education, so she did her academically challengin work and took her lumps at exam time, but came through nicely.
BearDevil;842641213 said:
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Takes decades to build a great university, so that's what makes the UNC situation so troubling. There are lots of jock mills that have nothing to lose on the academic side. Nobody would care if Wichita State got popped, UNC OTOH...
