Just FYI

https://admin.xosn.com/attachments1/526437.pdf

Thanks

Bowers is No. 1....alphabetically.

ude is back at DE and not a tackle

Add the new players coming in for summer = good depth

When I look at that OL depth chart I just smile.

heartofthebear;842674382 said:

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When I look at that OL depth chart I just smile.

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When was the last time you said that

Is Noa in the doghouse?

cbadbear;842674395 said:

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Is Noa in the doghouse?

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he's been injured and hasn't been able to participate so far

CalBearinLA;842674396 said:

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he's been injured and hasn't been able to participate so far

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Thanks. If healthy, I think he's going to be good.

i really hope Devante Downs takes over for Hardy soon.

Ashtyn Davis behind Allensworth? not sure who that is and how good he'll be.

glad Ooms is listed ahead of Granado, as center play wasn't great last season. i think the interior 3 spots will be good and competitive. OT...not so confident.

still think Looney is underweight for his frame, but...more concerned with the overall DT depth.

dang, vic 235??? he may be overweight LOL. would like to see Mccrary jump some ppl by mid-season.

heartofthebear;842674382 said:

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When I look at that OL depth chart I just smile.

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+1 ... yes, startling ... big Grin

why four LB positions if we'll be in a 4-2-5?

SonOfCalVa;842674408 said:

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+1 ... yes, startling ... big Grin

why four LB positions if we'll be in a 4-2-5?

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many times the spurs (the OLB/Safety hybrids) are considered linebackers. Btw I always called them spurs..but every team that runs that kind of defense (3-3-5 and 4-2-5) has their own name.

beeasyed;842674399 said:

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i really hope Devante Downs takes over for Hardy soon.

Ashtyn Davis behind Allensworth? not sure who that is and how good he'll be.

glad Ooms is listed ahead of Granado, as center play wasn't great last season. i think the interior 3 spots will be good and competitive. OT...not so confident.

still think Looney is underweight for his frame, but...more concerned with the overall DT depth.

dang, vic 235??? he may be overweight LOL. would like to see Mccrary jump some ppl by mid-season.

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Totally agree on Downs. It's a bit concerning that he isn't already ahead. Hardy is a great competitor but he's just not athletic enough and misses too many tackles, especially one on one.

When downs is ready he will play

http://www.calbears.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210012072&DB_OEM_ID=30100

Ashtyn Davis runs for the Cal track team in the high hurdles. He won the CCS HH his senior year out of Santa Cruz HS & placed at the state meet. He's a physical specimen. He's a walk-on in football.

going4roses;842674424 said:

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When downs is ready he will play

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Agreed, if he's healthy and making plays, he will be on the field plenty.

Regarding the rest of the defense: A lot of people are predicting we will be improved on D, but the names on that depth chart have a lot to prove. Hope they do. Who on that D list looks like they could end up as First Team All Pac 12? Maybe only Drew, IMO, and now he might be injured.

okaydo;842674355 said:

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Bowers is No. 1....alphabetically.

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Yeah, it's funny the way they worded the QB depth: Four "or"s = a five-way tie! Reading the tea leaves, it seems they want everybody going through the summer thinking they still have a shot. Also, it means nobody has shown obvious separation.

heartofthebear;842674382 said:

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When I look at that OL depth chart I just smile.

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Yeah, that is one BIG offensive line. IIRC, with the listed starters, that would be our biggest OL ever. Nothing even close.

Good to see Vic Wharton in there. Wasn't there some question as to if he would be 100% healthy this spring? Well, I guess he is, as he is listed as co-first string at the X receiver and first string at punt returner!

Schroeder71;842674426 said:

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http://www.calbears.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210012072&DB_OEM_ID=30100

Ashtyn Davis runs for the Cal track team in the high hurdles. He won the CCS HH his senior year out of Santa Cruz HS & placed at the state meet. He's a physical specimen. He's a walk-on in football.

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Safe to say he has some speed

Big C_Cal;842674448 said:

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Agreed, if he's healthy and making plays, he will be on the field plenty.

Regarding the rest of the defense: A lot of people are predicting we will be improved on D, but the names on that depth chart have a lot to prove. Hope they do. Who on that D list looks like they could end up as First Team All Pac 12? Maybe only Drew, IMO, and now he might be injured.

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They aren't replacing any first teamers

MinotStateBeav;842674411 said:

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many times the spurs (the OLB/Safety hybrids) are considered linebackers. Btw I always called them spurs..but every team that runs that kind of defense (3-3-5 and 4-2-5) has their own name.

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Thanks for explaining the four LB positions.

Big C_Cal;842674452 said:

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Yeah, that is one BIG offensive line. IIRC, with the listed starters, that would be our biggest OL ever. Nothing even close.

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2nd team OL is big also (3rd isn't small) ... Jones has to get them to m o v e ...

Interesting: Palmer already 2nd string behind Borrayo
NO VS

Didn't see Viramontes. Does that mean he's redshirting?

Or did I miss it?

Or does it mean nothing?

ddc_Cal;842674769 said:

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Didn't see Viramontes. Does that mean he's redshirting?

Or did I miss it?

Or does it mean nothing?

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prob just means he's not on campus yet?

Thanks, forgot about that. Duh.

going4roses;842674389 said:

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When was the last time you said that

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I don't think I've ever said that.

heartofthebear;842674826 said:

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I don't think I've ever said that.

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Damn!!! coach Jones was a great hire

It looks like Spavital's flipped body types at the H and Y positions. Has anyone noticed what side guys like Hudson, Veasy, and Austin are lining up on? Are those guys the inside receivers in trips? I assume they're still the ones playing TE when we go to that.

berk18;842674871 said:

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It looks like Spavital's flipped body types at the H and Y positions. Has anyone noticed what side guys like Hudson, Veasy, and Austin are lining up on? Are those guys the inside receivers in trips? I assume they're still the ones playing TE when we go to that.

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Sometimes they are the inside receivers depending on the play unfortunately I lack a deeper grasp on the game so it's hard to provide useful accurate information but I will pay close attention on Monday

Its a lot of Lil changes with the offense formations/motion etc

Hudson is the only true line up everywhere TE/WR/FB you can add wells and Mc Morris and JD Hinnant accordingly

going4roses;842674882 said:

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Hudson is the only true line up everywhere TE/WR/FB you can add wells and Mc Morris and JD Hinnant accordingly

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Good stuff. If you get a chance to watch for it, I'd be curious to hear how they're lining up from outside to inside. Normally you number receivers from outside to inside. So, in our standard 2x2 formations last year, Davis (X) would've been the #1 receiver on the left side, Treggs (H) would've been the #2 receiver on the left side, Anderson (Y) would've been #2 on the right, and Lawler (Z) would've been #1 on the right. On that same model, in a 3x1 formation, the outside-most receiver in trips is #1, the guy in the middle is #2, and the guy on the inside is #3.

Under TF, X and Z were always #1 on their side, and H was always #2. When we were 3x1, Y was always #3 (with one particular formation that was an exception). It looks like Spavital's flipped the body types of H and Y, and if he's actually having guys like Stovall line up as #3 in trips, it'd say some really interesting things about where the offense is going. If we used those guys at #3, it'd be a lot more like what WVU did with Tavon Austin at Y, whereas what we were doing with TF is more like what Texas Tech did with Jace Amaro at Y a few years ago.

berk18;842674891 said:

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Good stuff. If you get a chance to watch for it, I'd be curious to hear how they're lining up from outside to inside. Normally you number receivers from outside to inside. So, in our standard 2x2 formations last year, Davis (X) would've been the #1 receiver on the left side, Treggs (H) would've been the #2 receiver on the left side, Anderson (Y) would've been #2 on the right, and Lawler (Z) would've been #1 on the right. On that same model, in a 3x1 formation, the outside-most receiver in trips is #1, the guy in the middle is #2, and the guy on the inside is #3.

Under TF, X and Z were always #1 on their side, and H was always #2. When we were 3x1, Y was always #3 (with one particular formation that was an exception). It looks like Spavital's flipped the body types of H and Y, and if he's actually having guys like Stovall line up as #3 in trips, it'd say some really interesting things about where the offense is going. If we used those guys at #3, it'd be a lot more like what WVU did with Tavon Austin at Y, whereas what we were doing with TF is more like what Texas Tech did with Jace Amaro at Y a few years ago.

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Thanks for that information and now I know what I'm looking for

Yes your early thoughts on changes Fit what I see at practice

going4roses;842674882 said:

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Hudson is the only true line up everywhere TE/WR/FB you can add wells and Mc Morris and JD Hinnant accordingly

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Hinnant at ? where ??
On depth chart, he's 3rd string LG (6'4 295)