LACalFan;842679900 said:
Didn't Hardy Sr just get hired at Illinois last month?
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Hardy Nickerson leaving Cal??
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LACalFan;842679900 said:
Didn't Hardy Sr just get hired at Illinois last month?
do kids suddenly decide to graduate early mid semester? honest question. if you hit the unit cap, then you are forced to grad. given that he has huge time commitments I find that highly unlikely. it's more likely he has known he'd be pursuing this option at least a semester ago.
he had to have known the difficulty of getting into a Berkeley program given Scarlett's and Avery's ordeals.
beeasyed;842679904 said:
do kids suddenly decide to graduate early mid semester? honest question. if you hit the unit cap, then you are forced to grad. given that he has huge time commitments I find that highly unlikely. it's more likely he has known he'd be pursuing this option at least a semester ago.
he had to have known the difficulty of getting into a Berkeley program given Scarlett's and Avery's ordeals.
My feeling is that Hardy expected to be around next season. His old man got a DC gig and things changed quickly.
Not sure about Avery, but Scarlett could have continued, IIRC.
IIRC you can "graduate" in May pending completion of a certain number of units in summer session to remove the quotes and make it real. Not saying that's what he's doing, but it might be.
Cal Bears Great;842679831 said:
Am I the only one who is kind of miffed by this? I mean, I am definitely all for graduating, and the statement was classy, but when the team is looking to you for experience and leadership on defense - at a position where we have precious little depth - you just leave? Sorry, I just don't think that's the right thing to do. Maybe there's more to the story than I realize, but I think it's a bad look.
+1
Going into his fourth year, Dykes still has not seemed to fully stabilize the defense, this is bad news. He's taken care of the offense and academics, hope the D doesn't drag the program down.
LACalFan;842679907 said:
My feeling is that Hardy expected to be around next season. His old man got a DC gig and things changed quickly.
Not sure about Avery, but Scarlett could have continued, IIRC.
okay, I hope it's a spur of the moment decision to be with his dad. they seem to be really close. it just seemed like something that's been in the works. and with Barton, Walls and Scarlett all leaving, I'm just assuming there's more to it.
these weren't the scrubs and "busts" we categorized most of the early departures under. it's concerning.
beeasyed;842679904 said:
do kids suddenly decide to graduate early mid semester? honest question. if you hit the unit cap, then you are forced to grad. given that he has huge time commitments I find that highly unlikely. it's more likely he has known he'd be pursuing this option at least a semester ago.
he had to have known the difficulty of getting into a Berkeley program given Scarlett's and Avery's ordeals.
Hardy can't graduate until he finishes summer courses. He was probably NOT going to do that summer work or a reduced version of it but now he is gonna finish it out over the summer so probably he didn't make the decision til recently
Why can't we look to rugby for some lb possibilities?
moonpod;842679915 said:
Hardy can't graduate until he finishes summer courses. He was probably NOT going to do that summer work or a reduced version of it but now he is gonna finish it out over the summer so probably he didn't make the decision til recently
that's fair. I think the trend is concerning though. Dykes implied that our grad programs being difficult to get into as the reason we're experiencing so many transfers (and difficult for other players to transfer in) but with the former case, there have been other explanations.
jackbauerish;842679903 said:
Selfish decision. Sometimes you have to pass on opportunities line this. I'm very disappointed in both Hardy JR and sr.
For all that Cal did for Hardy Jr. and Sr., you don't turn your back on a program that counted on Jr. to lead the defense. While Aaron Rodgers' lack of respect for his alma mater tops the list, I was very disappointed to see Hardy join that group.
nobody here knows what took place but it is done move forward
Downs, Hamilton ,Brown and Aisesa(sp) better be ready I hope the JC kid gets up to speed quickly
Downs, Hamilton ,Brown and Aisesa(sp) better be ready I hope the JC kid gets up to speed quickly
Irishbear;842679927 said:
For all that Cal did for Hardy Jr. and Sr., you don't turn your back on a program that counted on Jr. to lead the defense. While Aaron Rodgers' lack of respect for his alma mater tops the list, I was very disappointed to see Hardy join that group.
Could only happen at Cal. Nonetheless, good luck HN Jr.
Irishbear;842679927 said:
For all that Cal did for Hardy Jr. and Sr., you don't turn your back on a program that counted on Jr. to lead the defense. While Aaron Rodgers' lack of respect for his alma mater tops the list, I was very disappointed to see Hardy join that group.
kinda selfish of Sr if he pushed for young Hardy to join him. ND and Furd at least have good grad programs. Arizona at least is a P12 school and KSU has a great HC.
why put your kid into another terrible program after enduring the 1-11 Cal season? he deserves better lol
edit: and the fact that he's a legacy makes me root for him even more. was looking forward to his senior game this year. oh well.
Well, this is Hardy Jr's last season of football ever. If he has developed a really close relationship with his father, a lifelong football guy, this was their last chance ever to celebrate together a game that they LOVE. I can understand that. Thirty years from now you have these memories...
hotlanta;842679941 said:
Could only happen at Cal. Nonetheless, good luck HN Jr.
Happens everywhere. We are just self-centered. Who is our projected first string center again?
Irishbear;842679927 said:
For all that Cal did for Hardy Jr. and Sr., you don't turn your back on a program that counted on Jr. to lead the defense. While Aaron Rodgers' lack of respect for his alma mater tops the list, I was very disappointed to see Hardy join that group.
+1 ... too bad Jr's career at Cal ended like this ... I wonder how much the lack of playing time enters into it as the 2 linebacker scheme is being used and, frankly, more suitable guys are entering as LBs, even if not optimum. Perhaps that influenced the others who left for 'greener' pastures.
Weaver fits into a hybrid DE-LB as that's what he played.
Career-wise, HN Jr will get a bigger benefit playing for his dad and Lovely Smith, especially if he wants to get into coaching. Smith was a 2x NFL HC and his dad is a NFL lifer as player and coach. He plays for those guys and he'll get his foot in the door of the coaching ranks faster. He won't get that staying.
beelzebear;842679969 said:
Career-wise, HN Jr will get a bigger benefit playing for his dad and Lovely Smith, especially if he wants to get into coaching. Smith was a 2x NFL HC and his dad is a NFL lifer as player and coach. He plays for those guys and he'll get his foot in the door of the coaching ranks faster. He won't get that staying.
true, but he'll probably try to go pro first anyway, so not sure how important this 1 year is. better coaching pedigree there on defense for sure
just sucks to lose the leaders of the team every year--and all on defense of course.
beelzebear;842679969 said:
Career-wise, HN Jr will get a bigger benefit playing for his dad and Lovely Smith, especially if he wants to get into coaching. Smith was a 2x NFL HC and his dad is a NFL lifer as player and coach. He plays for those guys and he'll get his foot in the door of the coaching ranks faster. He won't get that staying.
Yes. This. Wish Sr and Jr and our own bears well.
More unfortunate than anything. Everything lined up for him. This wouldn't hurt nearly as much if Barton didn't leave.
Slower and even slower, but they were warm bodies.
beeasyed;842679973 said:
true, but he'll probably try to go pro first anyway, so not sure how important this 1 year is. better coaching pedigree there on defense for sure
just sucks to lose the leaders of the team every year--and all on defense of course.
Is he good enough for the NFL? I'm not sure. I think he can get signed as a free agent but no guarantees.
1979bear;842679975 said:
Yes. This. Wish Sr and Jr and our own bears well.
If goes into coaching and stays another year as a grad assist, he'll be working with and picking the brains of a NFL coach and player. That's pretty good start if he hooks in their network. His dad can't vouch too much for him but Smith sure can.
beelzebear;842679984 said:
Is he good enough for the NFL? I'm not sure. I think he can get signed as a free agent but no guarantees.
If goes into coaching and stays another year as a grad assist, he'll be working with and picking the brains of a NFL coach and player. That's pretty good start if he hooks in their network. His dad can't vouch too much for him but Smith sure can.
I read somewhere he could project as the 3rd ILB in 2017 draft. obviously long time away. not sure he'd shine on measurables.
jackbauerish;842679903 said:
Selfish decision. Sometimes you have to pass on opportunities line this. I'm very disappointed in both Hardy JR and sr.
Really pathetic posts. I'm very disappointed in People on this board.
beeasyed;842679986 said:
I read somewhere he could project as the 3rd ILB in 2017 draft. obviously long time away. not sure he'd shine on measurables.
Really, okay then. Good for HNJr. I thought he was a little slow. That's never a disqualifier but it doesn't help.
None of this is on Dykes.
I blame Lil B for our LB problems.
I blame Lil B for our LB problems.
beelzebear;842679991 said:
Really, okay then. Good for HNJr. I thought he was a little slow. That's never a disqualifier but it doesn't help.
same. it sounds overoptimistic but he is instinctive so who knows
I'm angry and I wish I wasn't..He was a big team leader, great character model, and fired up on the field..Did he not participate fully in spring ball?? What's up with these guys? I am old and early leaving in itself is frustrating, although bless him if he gets the BA. Playing for dad? Pffffftt..He's a Bear!
72CalBear;842679998 said:
I'm angry and I wish I wasn't..He was a big team leader, great character model, and fired up on the field..Did he not participate fully in spring ball?? What's up with these guys? I am old and early leaving in itself is frustrating, although bless him if he gets the BA. Playing for dad? Pffffftt..He's a Bear!
Something is wrong here
^^^ Well he got the APR on track, so there's that. The sense I get is sort of mercenary/corporate vibe, for lack of a better term...perhaps compared to a family environment. And while I can't say, seems like the Southern culture is part of it, i.e., more "yes sir/no sir" and less go with the flow California.
6.02x10^23 dammits
Bobodeluxe;842679979 said:
Slower and even slower, but they were warm bodies.
I liked Hardy Jr a lot as a person, but he was so unathletic and slow. He was routinely burned, shaken out of his shoes, and made to completely whiff on tackles by the faster players in the league. This might be a blessing in disguise.
You're right- he is going to Illinois, and I respect the fact he was relentless, but he will leave his cleats behind because he got faked out of them so often...
Boot;842679988 said:
Really pathetic posts. I'm very disappointed in People on this board.
+1
Jr. is leaving to play for his FATHER, HIS FATHER a great Golden Bear, NFL player, and Coach! Jr did the Bears proud and some people have the balls to whine? Get a Freakin Grip and SHOW A LITTLE CLASS?
As much as I loved Cal, I would leave in a second if I had a chance to play LB for my dad and I wouldn't give a damn where it was.
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