OT stuff about Texas HC search

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oskigobears
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http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Thoughts-on-the-Texas-coaching-search
bearloyal
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oskigobears;842766131 said:

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Thoughts-on-the-Texas-coaching-search


No mention of interest in Dykes?
1979bear
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bearloyal;842766155 said:

No mention of interest in Dykes?


Shocking. Just shocking. Dykes is on most short lists.
slotright20
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It was supposedly a done deal with Tom Herman but a " red flag" popped up in the vetting. Have no idea what that means specifically or if there is any basis to it. What I do know he has enough talent to beat OU and Louisville yet lost to Navy and SMU ( in a blow out) who each were vastly outmanned. Plus he should have lost to Tulsa.
socaliganbear
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That was a whole lot of words without saying much of anything.
Strykur
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slotright20;842766197 said:

It was supposedly a done deal with Tom Herman but a " red flag" popped up in the vetting. Have no idea what that means specifically or if there is any basis to it. What I do know he has enough talent to beat OU and Louisville yet lost to Navy and SMU ( in a blow out) who each were vastly outmanned. Plus he should have lost to Tulsa.


Navy is a pretty good team this year, and Houston kind of went in the tank after that loss, but showed life after bouncing Louisville. Herman obviously can coach up for big games, Texas has not beaten a single decent team in the last half-decade other than Oklahoma in 2014.
KoreAmBear
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Since we can't out Bear Raid anyone, and likely it will be hard to be a pure defensive team in the Pac-12 without the players, why don't we go completely off the rails, outside of the box, and go after the Navy coach (Ken Niumatalolo)? Dude is working miracles over there. They've beaten Notre Dame and Houston. Sure they lost to Air Force, but they're still 8-2 with this system using non-athletic scholarship players (correct?). Paul Johnson his mentor has also been good for Georgia Tech over the years, always competing for their conference championship (so it's been done in a power conference as well).

Sure we won't be the NFL talent factory so we'll have to give up seeing Cal names on Sunday Night Football, but perhaps we may be way more competitive. We're all about Saturdays, right?
slotright20
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Strykur;842766217 said:

Navy is a pretty good team this year, and Houston kind of went in the tank after that loss, but showed life after bouncing Louisville. Herman obviously can coach up for big games, Texas has not beaten a single decent team in the last half-decade other than Oklahoma in 2014.


They did beat OU twice in that span and they cost Baylor a Sugar Bowl appearance with an upset last year - granted Baylor finished game with 4th string qb and Texas with 8 freshmen on defense. But to your point, the performance of Texas has been completely unacceptable since 2009.

As to Herman ( and I like Navy - going to go see them play in Dallas this weekend ) UH was just clueless against that option. Has anyone on this board ever seen a 7-1-3 defense because I saw one in that game. I bet you 50% of the guys on this board can immediately tell you what the problems are with trying to defend the option with that alignment. It was just shockingly bad coaching. And I could give similar examples in the SMU and Tulsa games. Plus I think at least 40% of his signees at UH would not academically qualify at Texas. Strykur - the vast majority of my Texas buddies agree with you and think I am unduly harsh. I am just not sold on the guy. The fun thing is I think they will get past whatever this red flag stuff is and we will get to see who is right about him.
Rushinbear
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KoreAmBear;842766233 said:

Since we can't out Bear Raid anyone, and likely it will be hard to be a pure defensive team in the Pac-12 without the players, why don't we go completely off the rails, outside of the box, and go after the Navy coach (Ken Niumatalolo)? Dude is working miracles over there. They've beaten Notre Dame and Houston. Sure they lost to Air Force, but they're still 8-2 with this system using non-athletic scholarship players (correct?). Paul Johnson his mentor has also been good for Georgia Tech over the years, always competing for their conference championship (so it's been done in a power conference as well).

Sure we won't be the NFL talent factory so we'll have to give up seeing Cal names on Sunday Night Football, but perhaps we may be way more competitive. We're all about Saturdays, right?


Is there an echo in here? Thank you.
82gradDLSdad
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slotright20;842766279 said:

They did beat OU twice in that span and they cost Baylor a Sugar Bowl appearance with an upset last year - granted Baylor finished game with 4th string qb and Texas with 8 freshmen on defense. But to your point, the performance of Texas has been completely unacceptable since 2009.

As to Herman ( and I like Navy - going to go see them play in Dallas this weekend ) UH was just clueless against that option. Has anyone on this board ever seen a 7-1-3 defense because I saw one in that game. I bet you 50% of the guys on this board can immediately tell you what the problems are with trying to defend the option with that alignment. It was just shockingly bad coaching. And I could give similar examples in the SMU and Tulsa games. Plus I think at least 40% of his signees at UH would not academically qualify at Texas. Strykur - the vast majority of my Texas buddies agree with you and think I am unduly harsh. I am just not sold on the guy. The fun thing is I think they will get past whatever this red flag stuff is and we will get to see who is right about him.


Don't know if I've seen a 7-1 defense but I saw Cal tackle UNR's dive back with about 3 guys each play while letting Colin Kap run around the end with the ball over and over and over and over. Maybe that's a game Sonny saw and was the reason he didn't sign Clancy
going4roses
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Didn't Clancy say Cal players weren't smart enough to run his defense ?
moonpod
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going4roses;842766943 said:

Didn't Clancy say Cal players weren't smart enough to run his defense ?


I thought it was that we didn't get the athletes to?
going4roses
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moonpod;842766946 said:

I thought it was that we didn't get the athletes to?


Could be
LarsBear74
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oskigobears;842766131 said:

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Thoughts-on-the-Texas-coaching-search


OK, I'll say it. Would you rather we just "trade" SD for Charlie Strong and call it even?
oskidunker
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No
OdontoBear66
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going4roses;842766943 said:

Didn't Clancy say Cal players weren't smart enough to run his defense ?


You raise an interesting point, but I often wonder how "smart" many of our players are, regardless of our admission standards. Offensive linemen twitching prior to snap, unnecessary roughness after we stop a team on third and long, running into the punter having our opponent inside their 20 losing good field position, excessive celebration in a comeback that yields a setback. Yup, happens with our dearly beloved brainiacs just as often, or more so, than "their" retards. So smart? Not so sure.
slotright20
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82gradDLSdad;842766934 said:

Don't know if I've seen a 7-1 defense but I saw Cal tackle UNR's dive back with about 3 guys each play while letting Colin Kap run around the end with the ball over and over and over and over. Maybe that's a game Sonny saw and was the reason he didn't sign Clancy


82 if I remember correctly I had lurked until that game. Believe some of my first posts were about how crazy the Cal defense was that night in Reno.
82gradDLSdad
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slotright20;842767056 said:

82 if I remember correctly I had lurked until that game. Believe some of my first posts were about how crazy the Cal defense was that night in Reno.


That game nearly cost me my life. I thought I was going to stroke out yelling, "hit the f'ing quarterback!!!"
socaliganbear
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Herman to LSU blowing up on Twitter. Come on, Chad Morris, come on SMU... only a Texas football shakedown can save us now.
WavyBear
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I wonder what happens to Dave Aranda...assuming Herman brings Todd Orlando with him.
Strykur
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Boosters at Texas will pull all their support from Fenves if he screws this up, Herman must be using LSU for leverage.
MinotStateBeav
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Shaggys pre-emptively melting down
packawana
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kingwin;842767142 said:

I wonder what happens to Dave Aranda...assuming Herman brings Todd Orlando with him.


If Herman brings Orlando and Charlie stays on in Texas I think Aranda goes to Texas unless he picks up a HC job somewhere.
WavyBear
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packawana;842767152 said:

If Herman brings Orlando and Charlie stays on in Texas I think Aranda goes to Texas unless he picks up a HC job somewhere.

Yeah...I was thinking Houston will prolly go after him...and here we are stuck with sonny.
going4roses
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Stuck? Other options?
socaliganbear
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Another thought... Sumlin maybe gets fired leading to more Texas chaos?
slotright20
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Sumlin ha d another year coming into tonight but if LSU hangs say 58 on them tonight who knows . Most Aggies I know have seen enough.
slotright20
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By the way the so called red flag with Tom Herman is allegedly a Sark sort of thing.not sure I buy it
going4roses
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slotright20;842767163 said:

By the way the so called red flag with Tom Herman is allegedly a Sark sort of thing.not sure I buy it


Aww ****
socaliganbear
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slotright20;842767163 said:

By the way the so called red flag with Tom Herman is allegedly a Sark sort of thing.not sure I buy it


The boozing or the affairs?
1979bear
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A&M boards not happy. LSU crushed them. Sumlin had Johnny Football. What has he done since he beat Bama? Well he beat the 15th ranked team this year. That team the Bears play Saturday Sumlin is not special.
slotright20
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socaliganbear;842767170 said:

The boozing or the affairs?


Don't they go hand in hand ?
socaliganbear
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1979bear;842767174 said:

A&M boards not happy. LSU crushed them. Sumlin had Johnny Football. What has he done since he beat Bama? Well he beat the 15th ranked team this year. That team the Bears play Saturday Sumlin is not special.


Watching that game I thought the A&M rush defense was amazing.

Well actually......
Strykur
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People on TexAgs are pissed but hard to toss a guy after 8-4. He will have another year and a nice hot seat going into 2017 should he lose the bowl game.
SFCALBear72
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After last night's game, LSU players are calling for Ed Orgeron to be their head coach next season. Remove the interim label. Sound familiar? $C players wanted him too. hmmmmmmm.
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