Scott Frost is bringing all 10 of his coaching staff with him from his prior job in Florida.....to Nebraska

THAT is a BIG move!

At the risk of sounding irreverent, the press here in Nebraska is treating this much as they would treat the second coming of Jesus -- a savior has arrived. I'd share their excitement, but I remember this with Bo Pelini and the whole "the order has been restored" theme. Lots of name-based themes and jokes -- "Frost Warning"; "It's Getting Frosty."

Well, he has won at all levels and the players seem to love him. I think knthat is a great hire for Nebraska. They just need to get some speed which he may be able to get with his recruiting connections in California and Florida. I see the competing with Wisconsin at least to get to the championship game every three years or so.

It was a great hire by Nebraska, but thinking you can bring Nebraska back to the era when it was one of the few programs with world-class facilities is probably a pipe dream.

SoFlaBear said:

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At the risk of sounding irreverent, the press here in Nebraska is treating this much as they would treat the second coming of Jesus -- a savior has arrived. I'd share their excitement, but I remember this with Bo Pelini and the whole "the order has been restored" theme. Lots of name-based themes and jokes -- "Frost Warning"; "It's Getting Frosty."

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God, country, family, football

not necessarily in that order

Big C said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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At the risk of sounding irreverent, the press here in Nebraska is treating this much as they would treat the second coming of Jesus -- a savior has arrived. I'd share their excitement, but I remember this with Bo Pelini and the whole "the order has been restored" theme. Lots of name-based themes and jokes -- "Frost Warning"; "It's Getting Frosty."

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God, country, family, football

not necessarily in that order

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I swear, if we don't start deemphasizing this "academics" business, we're NEVER going to be able to compete on the grid iron. It's a simple matter of priorities.

CAL6371 said:

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It was a great hire by Nebraska, but thinking you can bring Nebraska back to the era when it was one of the few programs with world-class facilities is probably a pipe dream.

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Yep, everyone has facilities. Everyone is on TV. Won't be weird if we finish with a higher ranked class than them.

socaliganbear said:

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CAL6371 said:

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It was a great hire by Nebraska, but thinking you can bring Nebraska back to the era when it was one of the few programs with world-class facilities is probably a pipe dream.

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Yep, everyone has facilities. Everyone is on TV. Won't be weird if we finish with a higher ranked class than them.

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Lincoln, Nebraska. That is all.

NYCGOBEARS said:

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socaliganbear said:

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CAL6371 said:

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It was a great hire by Nebraska, but thinking you can bring Nebraska back to the era when it was one of the few programs with world-class facilities is probably a pipe dream.

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Yep, everyone has facilities. Everyone is on TV. Won't be weird if we finish with a higher ranked class than them.

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Lincoln, Nebraska. That is all.

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Lincoln, Nebraska has a stadium that is filled (read: sold out @ 90,000 capacity) every weekend (recently expanded) and a beautiful new basketball arena. Notwithstanding the cold weather, Lincoln has just about as many "other things to do" as any other place.

Would it be easier to sell most young men on Miami, USC, Texas, UCLA, or UF? Yes it would. Is Lincoln appreciably a worse place than Ann Arbor, Columbus, Madison, East Lansing, South Bend, or State College? No- it is not.

SoFlaBear said:

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NYCGOBEARS said:

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socaliganbear said:

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CAL6371 said:

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It was a great hire by Nebraska, but thinking you can bring Nebraska back to the era when it was one of the few programs with world-class facilities is probably a pipe dream.

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Yep, everyone has facilities. Everyone is on TV. Won't be weird if we finish with a higher ranked class than them.

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Lincoln, Nebraska. That is all.

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Lincoln, Nebraska has a stadium that is filled (read: sold out @ 90,000 capacity) every weekend (recently expanded) and a beautiful new basketball arena. Notwithstanding the cold weather, Lincoln has just about as many "other things to do" as any other place.

Would it be easier to sell most young men on Miami, USC, Texas, UCLA, or UF? Yes it would. Is Lincoln appreciably a worse place than Ann Arbor, Columbus, Madison, East Lansing, South Bend, or State College? No- it is not.

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I think this is a different debate, which is neither here nor there imo. But if recruiting rankings are any indication of pull, Nebraska has recruited as well, or poorly, as Cal going back damn near a decade. For whatever reason, they don't seem to have the pull anymore to out recruit even a mediocre Cal program. It's just a different era.

Here's a list of the top 25 recruiting states. Obviously Texas and CA at the top. Also included, Michigan and Ohio. Not included, Nebraska. There just isn't enough talent around them. And recruiting nationally is much harder now than it was back when they were one of the few shows in town.

So as to whether Lincoln Nebraska is worse than any of those other places you listed, if you're talking about football talent, the answer is yes.

I think Nebraska can compete. They just need the right guy, and Frost might be that right guy. Great support from the administration and the fans. Not a lot of burdensome academic restrictions. Lots of tradition although not as much lately. I don't really buy into the idea that they can't compete because there isn't enough talent in Nebraska. Plenty of schools rely on out of state talent and there's no reason they can't as well. Oklahoma comes to mind. They obviously do quite well in Texas but they also recruit well on the west coast and in Florida. In fact almost all the big time programs recruit well in Florida. Look at the group Taggart was putting together in Oregon. Full of players from Florida and California, even a couple of Georgia and North Carolina kids. It just takes the right coach. .

They'll definitely compete. Really, any P5 program that wants to compete and finds a good coach will compete. Will they get back to where they used to be? I don't think so. I do think their recruiting base will hamper them in building the kind of depth needed to get back to that sort of dominance.

Also, the B1G is a very deep league with schools that offer damn near all the exact same things as Nebraska. Large flagship schools, very committed administrations, huge stadiums, large passionate fan bases. But those schools have better recruiting bases.

Here's a list of all 50 states and the number of blue chip recruits each state has produced int he last 5 years.

Ohio: 79
Pennsylvania: 44
New Jersey: 44 (hello, PSU)
Illinois:37
Maryland: 36
Michigan: 35
Indiana:24
Oklahoma: 20
D.C:14
Iowa:7
Wisconsin: 6
Nebraska: 2

If all goes right, maybe they can hope for Wisconsin.

You have to remember that Nebraska's run in the 90's was fueled by partial and non-qualifiers, without that advantage they are an above-average program.