75bear said:

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iwantwinners said:

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Should have just continued playing at AT&T instead of the money pit the Memorial Stadium retrofit became and still is.

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Did you attend the games at AT&T that one year? It was fine as a novelty, but would be a disaster as anything more than a 1 year experience. The sight lines were terrible, I couldn't hear or see the Cal Band, and it was far from campus.

Cal Football is meant to be played in Strawberry Canyon at Memorial full stop.

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I cede your point about the sight lines, not so much the band.

The "meant to be played at Memorial" is, like, your opinion man.

iwantwinners said:

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75bear said:

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iwantwinners said:

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Should have just continued playing at AT&T instead of the money pit the Memorial Stadium retrofit became and still is.

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Did you attend the games at AT&T that one year? It was fine as a novelty, but would be a disaster as anything more than a 1 year experience. The sight lines were terrible, I couldn't hear or see the Cal Band, and it was far from campus.

Cal Football is meant to be played in Strawberry Canyon at Memorial full stop.

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I cede your point about the sight lines, not so much the band.

The "meant to be played at Memorial" is, like, your opinion man.

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I think the answer in retrospect is that we should have just spent the minimum amount to make CMS seismically safe (possibly by just infilling the interior of the West structure with access to the stadium provided by tunnels and moving restrooms and food concessions outside to a plaza, with BBQs, food trucks, etc.) and building the SAHPC somewhere else.

However, that is all sunk cost nowthe upside is we have a beautiful football stadium, with a great club level that has fantastic views of the Bayplus a SAHPC. We need to figure out how to maximize revenues from our facility.

calumnus said:

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iwantwinners said:

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75bear said:

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iwantwinners said:

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Should have just continued playing at AT&T instead of the money pit the Memorial Stadium retrofit became and still is.

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Did you attend the games at AT&T that one year? It was fine as a novelty, but would be a disaster as anything more than a 1 year experience. The sight lines were terrible, I couldn't hear or see the Cal Band, and it was far from campus.

Cal Football is meant to be played in Strawberry Canyon at Memorial full stop.

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I cede your point about the sight lines, not so much the band.

The "meant to be played at Memorial" is, like, your opinion man.

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I think the answer in retrospect is that we should have just spent the minimum amount to make CMS seismically safe (possibly by just infilling the interior of the West structure with access to the stadium provided by tunnels and moving restrooms and food concessions outside to a plaza, with BBQs, food trucks, etc.) and building the SAHPC somewhere else.

However, that is all sunk cost nowthe upside is we have a beautiful football stadium, with a great club level that has fantastic views of the Bayplus a SAHPC. We need to figure out how to maximize revenues from our facility.

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Nothing says we're All-In for football like food trucks and restrooms on the plaza...

Cal_79 said:

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calumnus said:

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iwantwinners said:

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75bear said:

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iwantwinners said:

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Should have just continued playing at AT&T instead of the money pit the Memorial Stadium retrofit became and still is.

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Did you attend the games at AT&T that one year? It was fine as a novelty, but would be a disaster as anything more than a 1 year experience. The sight lines were terrible, I couldn't hear or see the Cal Band, and it was far from campus.

Cal Football is meant to be played in Strawberry Canyon at Memorial full stop.

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I cede your point about the sight lines, not so much the band.

The "meant to be played at Memorial" is, like, your opinion man.

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I think the answer in retrospect is that we should have just spent the minimum amount to make CMS seismically safe (possibly by just infilling the interior of the West structure with access to the stadium provided by tunnels and moving restrooms and food concessions outside to a plaza, with BBQs, food trucks, etc.) and building the SAHPC somewhere else.

However, that is all sunk cost nowthe upside is we have a beautiful football stadium, with a great club level that has fantastic views of the Bayplus a SAHPC. We need to figure out how to maximize revenues from our facility.

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Nothing says we're All-In for football like food trucks and restrooms on the plaza...

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In this case it is a zero sum game. Nothing says we are all in for football like having lavish food courts with great views of the Bay and going cheap on coaching staffs-especially coordinators and assistants.

Save $200 million or so on the stadium expenses and spend more on salaries for the best coaching staff money can buy.

calumnus said:

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Spend more on salaries for the best coaching staff money can buy.

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We all know that's not going to happen at Cal. Never has, never will.

Salary isn't enough to convince the top talents in the business to coach here -- it's the university's holistic commitment -- financial, cultural, etc -- to winning along with salary. Nobody wants to go somewhere where they're set up to fail by lagging in resources relative to their immediate competition.