1. Nathan Elliott
2. Ross Bowers
3. Chase Garbers
4. Brandon McIIWain


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Garbers but I wouldn't draw any long term conclusions from today.

I'd actually rank it as you have it, hanky, unfortunately...

I think the better question is, who do you go with for development. I don't have an answer - yet.

So I guess Ross Bowers was not the starting QB by much coming out of camp??

I was stunned by the offensive play calling and game plan!

Garbers could have seized the starting job for good today, but didn't. It's still open.

He'll probably get another chance against BYU, though.

BerlinerBaer said:

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I'd actually rank it as you have it, hanky, unfortunately...

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The guy threw four picks, all of which were his fault.

1 Garbers
2 McIlwain
3. Elliot






Last. Bowers

Bowers w/ <50 combined yds for the game, 47.1% completion, 0 TDs.

I'm predicting he'll no longer be starter by the start of conference play.

Garbers by default. Bowers is not a good QB but Cal's QB problems fall on Baldwin and Wilcox.

Check that. The entire offense was poor all game. For crying out loud, you hand the ball off almost every play to one and only one RB and that guy didn't even get 100 yards rushing. And it's not like the defense didn't give the offense plenty of drives to work with. Even Wazzou can get more out of their running game than this.

So basically this vaunted OL can't pass protect or run block, the QBs can't throw and the receivers can't catch. What else is there to say about this offense? Nice uniforms, way to keep them clean?

Uthaithani said:

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Garbers by default. Bowers is not a good QB but Cal's QB problems fall on Baldwin and Wilcox.

Check that. The entire offense was poor all game. For crying out loud, you hand the ball off almost every play to one and only one RB and that guy didn't even get 100 yards rushing. And it's not like the defense didn't give the offense plenty of drives to work with. Even Wazzou can get more out of their running game than this.

So basically this vaunted OL can't pass protect or run block, the QBs can't throw and the receivers can't catch. What else is there to say about this offense? Nice uniforms, way to keep them clean?

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UNC lines were strong. Let's see how our lines do in the next couple of games.

Bowers may start next week, but should be replaced by Garber after 2 series. I don't think we have a qb on the roster...not a Pac 12 one, anyway. Maybe Garber can develop - a little stronger all around.

Garb Chasers

Not sure it matters who's under center when the playcalling is so predictable.

Elliot was the worst qb. He threw 4 picks. For all the criticism of Cal qbs they made 32 throws with no interceptions.

Garber showed something in the 2nd half but he only made 1 completion downfield and that catch was all big Moe Ways. Whoever the coaches like between Bowers and Garbers they should just roll with him. No more rotating.

hanky1 said:

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1. Nathan Elliott
2. Ross Bowers
3. Chase Garbers
4. Brandon McIIWain


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Cmon man

That's just pure trolling

When you throw 4 picks, you're automatically last

Garbers or Bowers probably could have been more aggressive and forced throws too

ducky23 said:

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hanky1 said:

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1. Nathan Elliott
2. Ross Bowers
3. Chase Garbers
4. Brandon McIIWain


Please vote

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Cmon man

That's just pure trolling

When you throw 4 picks, you're automatically last

Garbers or Bowers probably could have been more aggressive and forced throws too

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Plus, let's be honest: a couple of TD drives after the game is pretty much lost isn't that much to crow about. I guess if he's your fantasy QB that would make you happier.

Certainly not Baldwin. None great, but Garbers ability to run opened up the offense. Bowers statued in the pocket or handed off.

I listed them in order of appearance, not how I would personally rank them.

None are great. Thats why all three played. Bowers looks worse than last year although tigh end drops did not help him.

And do remember who has had all the snaps, all the experience when comparing. One game does not a season make but this is Bwers#13 I think

OdontoBear66 said:

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And do remember who has had all the snaps, all the experience when comparing. One game does not a season make but this is Bwers#13 I think

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Speaking of snaps, there were a lot of low ones today. Surprised none got away from the QBs

1. mcilwain
2. mcilwain
3.mcilwain
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Something is up. Bowers started last year. He supposedly clearly retained the starting job this year. And then he gets pulled halfway through the 1st quarter of the 1st game and hardly plays again???? I thought he might be hurt but no mention of that. You just don't treat your starting QB like that unless he barely won the job or the OC doesn't really care for him as the starter.

Also very dissapointibg Starkey didnt ask the coach what was goingbon after discussing it with Pawlaski all day long. very strange.

Uthaithani said:

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Garbers by default. Bowers is not a good QB but Cal's QB problems fall on Baldwin and Wilcox.

Check that. The entire offense was poor all game. For crying out loud, you hand the ball off almost every play to one and only one RB and that guy didn't even get 100 yards rushing. And it's not like the defense didn't give the offense plenty of drives to work with. Even Wazzou can get more out of their running game than this.

So basically this vaunted OL can't pass protect or run block, the QBs can't throw and the receivers can't catch. What else is there to say about this offense? Nice uniforms, way to keep them clean?

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Our OL absolutely sucked today. Both the run blocking and pass blocking were horrific. If this is as good as it gets, we're in for a long season.

Garbers can run ... but his accuracy down field ... did he hit any receivers past 5 yards? While Bowers struggled he did convert a few longer throws. If Garbers is the answer he must convert down the field otherwise there will be 9 in the box when he is on the field.

Yogi Bear said:

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BerlinerBaer said:

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I'd actually rank it as you have it, hanky, unfortunately...

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The guy threw four picks, all of which were his fault.

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I was half joking.

To answer seriously, I think it's a three-way tie between our guys. You have to give Bowers the tiebreaker based on experience, although I see the most upside with McIlwain. He'd look a lot like the QBs Beau had up at EWU if he can develop.

WRs are never open. Baldwin needs to find more innovative ways to get his WRs open. Look at the LA Rams. Their receivers stink but they're always open cuz their coach knows how to scheme them open.

BerlinerBaer said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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BerlinerBaer said:

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I'd actually rank it as you have it, hanky, unfortunately...

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The guy threw four picks, all of which were his fault.

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I was half joking.

To answer seriously, I think it's a three-way tie between our guys. You have to give Bowers the tiebreaker based on experience, although I see the most upside with McIlwain. He'd look a lot like the QBs Beau had up at EWU if he can develop.

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They hardly let him pass the ball though.

McIlwain only threw a few passes - can definitely run. He looked small out there and at least one of his balls got batted down at the line.not sure he's our long term solution. Surprised the coaches bailed on Bowers so quick.

doorknobs said:

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Surprised the coaches bailed on Bowers so quick.

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If it were tedford [insert clever remark here]

Demetrius Robertson leaving becomes a lot more clearer.

Incredibly vanilla game plan, especially the pass game.

Disparate concepts and formations groupings didn't seem like it all jived together.

Reminded me of the Weber state game last year.

Lack of explosive plays largely due to QB play and OL execution imo.

Saw a lot of 2 man and Man free that we couldn't crack.

We coulda gone 5-6-7 deep before we found anybody as lame as Elliott.

hanky1 said:

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WRs are never open. Baldwin needs to find more innovative ways to get his WRs open. Look at the LA Rams. Their receivers stink but they're always open cuz their coach knows how to scheme them open.

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Woods and Kupp are no slouches. It's not like Kupp only broke out in the NFL. He has the most receiving yards and touchdowns in FCS history under the eye of...Beau Baldwin and Nicholas Edwards.