So the court found the show cause issued against Todd McNair to violate California law. What does Larry Scott do? He threatens the NCAA eligibility of the California schools in the Pac-12.

Seriously, to whom is Scott accountable? The Pac-12 schools? The NCAA? No one?

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24945390/judge-rules-ncaa-show-cause-penalty-violates-california-law

That ESPN article is terribly written, particularly if, like me, you knew nothing about the case or the issues being debated beforehand. This LA Times article spells it out a little better IMO:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-todd-mcnair-show-cause-20181009-story.html

I think Larry Scott is as much a bozo as others on this Board do, but I don't think there's anything wrong with his filing. The NCAA has only a few teeth, and pulling one of the main ones is not going to serve the interests of college sports, IMO.

As to your question, Scott serves at the pleasure of the conference presidents, several of whom (including Carol Christ) would like to see him go. Others (USC for instance) love himgo figure.

01Bear said:

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So the court found the show cause issued against Todd McNair to violate California law. What does Larry Scott do? He threatens the NCAA eligibility of the California schools in the Pac-12.

Seriously, to whom is Scott accountable? The Pac-12 schools? The NCAA? No one?

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24945390/judge-rules-ncaa-show-cause-penalty-violates-california-law

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Of all the things to knock Larry Scott for, this seems out there.

What is he supposed to do here?

This is a NCAA vs CA matter.

The University of California is subject to CA laws - is Scott supposed to rewrite them? (If they even apply?)

The question is, why does Scott get involved in this at all? Same guy who never stands up for the best interests of Pac-12 schools when it comes to ESPN or Fox or anyone else in the media or college sports, now decides that the friggin' NCAA bureaucrats are who he's going to stand up for?

Go away, Larry. Go away.

Also, props to the judge for recognizing the obvious: Larry Scott is irrelevant.

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Last month, the NCAA filed a declaration from Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott warning that the judge's tentative decision, if made final, could threaten the NCAA membership of all four of the conference's California schools.

"If California law prevents institutions in that state from honoring such commitments, it is hard to see how the Pac-12's Member Universities in California could continue to meet the requirements of NCAA membership," Scott wrote.

The NCAA also filed a declaration from Big West Commissioner Dennis Farrell expressing concern that conference schools could no longer rely on the NCAA's disciplinary mechanisms if the show-cause penalty wasn't legal.

Shaller dismissed those concerns in a separate filing Tuesday.

"The opinions of these two witnesses are completely speculative and irrelevant to the issue " Shaller wrote. "The proposed testimony of Scott and Farrell is deemed inadmissible and is not considered."

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This.

Larry Scott is a representative of the Pac-12, which members are the 12 schools, including Cal, Furd, UCLA, and USC. That he injected himself into the situation and (falsely) insisted that this means the California schools will no longer be in compliance with NCAA rules threatens the continued existence of these four schools in the NCAA. This is to the detriment of the California schools as well as of the Pac-12.

Furthermore, that the NCAA is toothless is not an issue for the California courts to address or even consider in this case. Let some other case whete that is the issue be brought.

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I think Larry Scott is as much a bozo as others on this Board do, but I don't think there's anything wrong with his filing. The NCAA has only a few teeth, and pulling one of the main ones is not going to serve the interests of college sports, IMO.

As to your question, Scott serves at the pleasure of the conference presidents, several of whom (including Carol Christ) would like to see him go. Others (USC for instance) love himgo figure.

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SC's full time President NIkias is pushed out, and interim Wanda Austin is busy trying to keep things on an even keel. The Presidents that don't like Scott tend to be the newer Presidents (Chancellors) and when SC appoints a new President my suspicion is that SC may no longer be so enamored with Scott.

On the substance, it is hard to see how the Judge is not right about Scott's testimony being speculation. None of the Pac schools are going to hire a coach that is facing a show cause order. They simply don't hire people like that. If I'm a Cali Pac AD, I'm wondering why Scott would infer otherwise?

To whom is Larry Scott accountable?

Mrs. Scott?

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On the substance, it is hard to see how the Judge is not right about Scott's testimony being speculation. None of the Pac schools are going to hire a coach that is facing a show cause order.

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This is true. What is more likely is that a coach who has been hit with a show cause order would go to court himself and ask a judge to rule that the show cause order is illegal. Easy to imagine someone like Sean Miller doing that if the NCAA ever sanctions him.

Bumping this thread in light of new developments re: instant replay scandal. Also saw this article in Yahoo sports, which begs the question, how long will Larry keep his job?

Larry Scott feels the heat

85Bear said:

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Bumping this thread in light of new developments re: instant replay scandal. Also saw this article in Yahoo sports, which begs the question, how long will Larry keep his job?

Larry Scott feels the heat

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The humorous part of this is the Pac has the most programs involved in the basketball scandal, and yet is the worse major basketball conference. Pac isn't even good at cheating.

85Bear said:

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Bumping this thread in light of new developments re: instant replay scandal. Also saw this article in Yahoo sports, which begs the question, how long will Larry keep his job?

Larry Scott feels the heat

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I do feel we're well by his "use by" date now.

Honestly, the only truly visionary thing he's done is move the hoops tournament to Vegas. The rest of the "good" stuff is all just painting-by-number stuff any new commisioner would have done and he had the benefit of following Tom Hansen, College football's second term Woodrow Wilson. De minimus.

I'd say they vast majority of what was seen as his potential has come up well short. Sometimes good ideas poorly executed. I can't think anyone thinks the overall state of the backetball and football prorgams are in better shape then when he arrived.

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The humorous part of this is the Pac has the most programs involved in the basketball scandal, and yet is the worse major basketball conference. Pac isn't even good at cheating.

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Our high academic standards constrain us. How can we legitimately compete in the cheating war with all that homework and studying? ;-)

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85Bear said:

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Bumping this thread in light of new developments re: instant replay scandal. Also saw this article in Yahoo sports, which begs the question, how long will Larry keep his job?

Larry Scott feels the heat

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The humorous part of this is the Pac has the most programs involved in the basketball scandal, and yet is the worse major basketball conference. Pac isn't even good at cheating.

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If you get caught and haven't won jack, you are definitely back at cheating. Have a strong feeling many other programs just haven't been caught. Agents/runners funnelling players is just one way to do things.

ColoradoBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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85Bear said:

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Bumping this thread in light of new developments re: instant replay scandal. Also saw this article in Yahoo sports, which begs the question, how long will Larry keep his job?

Larry Scott feels the heat

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The humorous part of this is the Pac has the most programs involved in the basketball scandal, and yet is the worse major basketball conference. Pac isn't even good at cheating.

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If you get caught and haven't won jack, you are definitely back at cheating. Have a strong feeling many other programs just haven't been caught. Agents/runners funnelling players is just one way to do things.

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The other point is that if you are a "storied program," and you do get caught cheating, the NCAA won't do anything to you, although they might hammer Delaware State (see: Carolina, North).

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ColoradoBear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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85Bear said:

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Bumping this thread in light of new developments re: instant replay scandal. Also saw this article in Yahoo sports, which begs the question, how long will Larry keep his job?

Larry Scott feels the heat

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The humorous part of this is the Pac has the most programs involved in the basketball scandal, and yet is the worse major basketball conference. Pac isn't even good at cheating.

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If you get caught and haven't won jack, you are definitely back at cheating. Have a strong feeling many other programs just haven't been caught. Agents/runners funnelling players is just one way to do things.

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The other point is that if you are a "storied program," and you do get caught cheating, the NCAA won't do anything to you, although they might hammer Delaware State (see: Carolina, North).

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The UNC defense was genius and ballsy. Too bad they didn't get their accreditation pulled for it as it was that big of joke.

We'll see what happens with Kansas. Can't believe this is the only instance of impropriety as they've been in the thick of it with murky AAU forever. However, the FBI investigation only goes back so far.

wifeisafurd said:

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On the substance, it is hard to see how the Judge is not right about Scott's testimony being speculation. None of the Pac schools are going to hire a coach that is facing a show cause order. They simply don't hire people like that. If I'm a Cali Pac AD, I'm wondering why Scott would infer otherwise?

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Yeah, seems like he is working against our interests at this point.

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wifeisafurd said:

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On the substance, it is hard to see how the Judge is not right about Scott's testimony being speculation. None of the Pac schools are going to hire a coach that is facing a show cause order. They simply don't hire people like that. If I'm a Cali Pac AD, I'm wondering why Scott would infer otherwise?

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Yeah, seems like he is working against our interests at this point.

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seems like that has always been the case no?

Since the Pac-12 and P12 Network were essentually a start-up given the new members/format and TV networks, it's probably time to change CEOs. Probably should have happened 3 years ago when the TV coverage didn't expand. Having a start-up CEO and then a new CEO to get to the next level is pretty standard.

My guess is the chancellors/presidents weren't thinking along these lines but instead long term academic/institutional thinking and not an enterprise. Oh well. Now they're going do something now.

Anyone else keep seeing this thread title and think of this: