Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

All that matters is tv money

I understand the concern, but why do we need 4 different threads on this?

From Cal Athletics:

"Using the Air Quality Index (AQI) as a guide, Cal and its sports medicine staff are following guidelines established by the NCAA Sports Science Institute and the Pac-12 Health and Well Being Board to determine whether to continue planned competitions and practices.

The AQI can fluctuate as conditions change, and if it reaches levels where physical exertion is considered dangerous, we will take appropriate measures, including postponing or cancelling events, if necessary.

Cal Athletics has been following AQI levels since the wildfires started last week. As of 9:30 a.m. Thursday, we have not seen AQI numbers that require postponement of Saturday's Big Game. We will continue to monitor and will provide updates through the scheduled kickoff.

Members of the campus community, particularly those with pre-existing respiratory conditions, such as asthma, heart or lung disease, should take appropriate steps to limit exposure outdoors."

https://calbears.com/news/2018/11/15/athletics-news-air-quality-update.aspx

It would be nice if they'd say what air quality index level will necessitate postponement. Berkeley is currently at 192, which is very high. Is 200 the threshold? Or as Oskidunker implied, ticket sales?

UrsaMajor said:

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I understand the concern, but why do we need 4 different threads on this?

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My bad. Didn't pay enough attention to the other threads.

Mods - feel free to delete this thread.

travelingbears said:

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UrsaMajor said:

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I understand the concern, but why do we need 4 different threads on this?

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My bad. Didn't pay enough attention to the other threads.

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ignorant / wild guess.. on cells cybears tend to focus on just the first few threads?

UC Davis cancelled classes. SJSU cancelled classes. Cal is sandwiched right in the middle of those two schools, yet classes have yet to be cancelled even though aqi worse here ar 197. 200 means classes cancelled according to Cal

Why would fifferent universities have different standards?

travelingbears said:

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Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

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Never mind, I feel like a dick now. For what it's worth, here is what one of my friends on a team told me just today when i asked him about the quality of the air:

"Thanks for the hype yesterday!! It's feels better, nothing compared to last year. Last year we would cough during practice and our throats would burn, no none of those are happening"

Holy hell...AQ in Chico is 365. Over 300 is hazardous and the highest rating (maroon 300-500).

FWIW, 10/12/17 the AQI in Berkeley was 150. Today it's 197. Seems worse this year, number back that. It could get better by game time but might not. Just have to wait.

From the Cal AD site, last year: https://calbears.com/news/2017/10/12/athletics-news-update-on-home-athletic-events.aspx

TheFiatLux said:

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travelingbears said:

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Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

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Never mind, I feel like a dick now. For what it's worth, here is what one of my friends on a team told me just today when i asked him about the quality of the air:

"Thanks for the hype yesterday!! It's feels better, nothing compared to last year. Last year we would cough during practice and our throats would burn, no none of those are happening"

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I'm not sure it's a good idea to evaluate potential lung exposure and injury by comparing it to last year's "coughing and throat burning." The fine particulates entering your lungs are too small to see or even feel. Any athlete would behoove themself to heed official public health warnings, and NOT go on "feel" or anecdotal evidence.

I feel for those athletes who feel obligated to attend training sessions in this air quality. I hope they can do so with the aid of filters, respirators and/or masks. No reason for a young athlete to do lasting damage when exercise can be avoided, or the damage mitigated.

I've been wearing N95 masks outside whenever the AQI goes much over 100. I very much value my lungs and would like to prevent unnecessary damage if I can. I'd much rather be cycling & engaging in other physical activity in 20 years than be strapped to an oxygen tank suffering from some lung (or other) ailment in retirement.

I'll add that a macho, cavalier attitude in youth is probably greatly regretted by those, for example, who pooh-poohed asbestos exposure warnings who now suffer from mesothelioma.

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FWIW, 10/12/17 the AQI in Berkeley was 150. Today it's 197. Seems worse this year, number back that. It could get better by game time but might not. Just have to wait.

From the Cal AD site, last year: https://calbears.com/news/2017/10/12/athletics-news-update-on-home-athletic-events.aspx

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That # was taken at 10AM on one day AND you didn't even accurately state the # which was 155. WHy do you do that? (and yes, i'm getting annoyed)

TheFiatLux said:

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Another Bear said:

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FWIW, 10/12/17 the AQI in Berkeley was 150. Today it's 197. Seems worse this year, number back that. It could get better by game time but might not. Just have to wait.

From the Cal AD site, last year: https://calbears.com/news/2017/10/12/athletics-news-update-on-home-athletic-events.aspx

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That # was taken at 10AM on one day AND you didn't even accurately state the # which was 155. WHy do you do that? (and yes, i'm getting annoyed)

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Good you're annoyed. Frankly who cares.

TandemBear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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travelingbears said:

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Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

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Never mind, I feel like a dick now. For what it's worth, here is what one of my friends on a team told me just today when i asked him about the quality of the air:

"Thanks for the hype yesterday!! It's feels better, nothing compared to last year. Last year we would cough during practice and our throats would burn, no none of those are happening"

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I'm not sure it's a good idea to evaluate potential lung exposure and injury by comparing it to last year's "coughing and throat burning." The fine particulates entering your lungs are too small to see or even feel. Any athlete would behoove themself to heed official public health warnings, and NOT go on "feel" or anecdotal evidence.

I feel for those athletes who feel obligated to attend training sessions in this air quality. I hope they can do so with the aid of filters, respirators and/or masks. No reason for a young athlete to do lasting damage when exercise can be avoided, or the damage mitigated.

I've been wearing N95 masks outside whenever the AQI goes much over 100. I very much value my lungs and would like to prevent unnecessary damage if I can. I'd much rather be cycling & engaging in other physical activity in 20 years than be strapped to an oxygen tank suffering from some lung (or other) ailment in retirement.

I'll add that a macho, cavalier attitude in youth is probably greatly regretted by those, for example, who pooh-poohed asbestos exposure warnings who now suffer from mesothelioma.

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You are missing the point (or willfully disregarding it). Last year i LOUDLY called for the cancellation of the Wazzu game based in large part on what my classmates said. This year they are saying it's not impacting them.

TheFiatLux said:

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TandemBear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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travelingbears said:

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Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

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Never mind, I feel like a dick now. For what it's worth, here is what one of my friends on a team told me just today when i asked him about the quality of the air:

"Thanks for the hype yesterday!! It's feels better, nothing compared to last year. Last year we would cough during practice and our throats would burn, no none of those are happening"

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I'm not sure it's a good idea to evaluate potential lung exposure and injury by comparing it to last year's "coughing and throat burning." The fine particulates entering your lungs are too small to see or even feel. Any athlete would behoove themself to heed official public health warnings, and NOT go on "feel" or anecdotal evidence.

I feel for those athletes who feel obligated to attend training sessions in this air quality. I hope they can do so with the aid of filters, respirators and/or masks. No reason for a young athlete to do lasting damage when exercise can be avoided, or the damage mitigated.

I've been wearing N95 masks outside whenever the AQI goes much over 100. I very much value my lungs and would like to prevent unnecessary damage if I can. I'd much rather be cycling & engaging in other physical activity in 20 years than be strapped to an oxygen tank suffering from some lung (or other) ailment in retirement.

I'll add that a macho, cavalier attitude in youth is probably greatly regretted by those, for example, who pooh-poohed asbestos exposure warnings who now suffer from mesothelioma.

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You are missing the point (or willfully disregarding it). Last year i LOUDLY called for the cancellation of the Wazzu game based in large part on what my classmates said. This year they are saying it's not impacting them.

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And this year it seems you REALLY want to do the Bonfire Rally. Good for you, that's your thing. Sorry but yoiu're so transparent it's ridiculous.

Another Bear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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TandemBear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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travelingbears said:

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Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

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Never mind, I feel like a dick now. For what it's worth, here is what one of my friends on a team told me just today when i asked him about the quality of the air:

"Thanks for the hype yesterday!! It's feels better, nothing compared to last year. Last year we would cough during practice and our throats would burn, no none of those are happening"

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I'm not sure it's a good idea to evaluate potential lung exposure and injury by comparing it to last year's "coughing and throat burning." The fine particulates entering your lungs are too small to see or even feel. Any athlete would behoove themself to heed official public health warnings, and NOT go on "feel" or anecdotal evidence.

I feel for those athletes who feel obligated to attend training sessions in this air quality. I hope they can do so with the aid of filters, respirators and/or masks. No reason for a young athlete to do lasting damage when exercise can be avoided, or the damage mitigated.

I've been wearing N95 masks outside whenever the AQI goes much over 100. I very much value my lungs and would like to prevent unnecessary damage if I can. I'd much rather be cycling & engaging in other physical activity in 20 years than be strapped to an oxygen tank suffering from some lung (or other) ailment in retirement.

I'll add that a macho, cavalier attitude in youth is probably greatly regretted by those, for example, who pooh-poohed asbestos exposure warnings who now suffer from mesothelioma.

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You are missing the point (or willfully disregarding it). Last year i LOUDLY called for the cancellation of the Wazzu game based in large part on what my classmates said. This year they are saying it's not impacting them.

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And this year it seems you REALLY want to do the Bonfire Rally. Good for you, that's your thing. Sorry but yoiu're so transparent it's ridiculous.

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YOu seem to have some pathological thing about me... it's weird. Why don't you send me a direct message and identify yourself so we can discuss. I doubt you will because people like you don't. As I said, everything is secondary to the players' and students' health. Your proof tho about the quality of the air was that people died in the fire. That's what's transparent.

The numbers are higher, regardless if what the players are saying. Not healthy go anyone at 197.

TheFiatLux said:

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Another Bear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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TandemBear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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travelingbears said:

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Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

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Never mind, I feel like a dick now. For what it's worth, here is what one of my friends on a team told me just today when i asked him about the quality of the air:

"Thanks for the hype yesterday!! It's feels better, nothing compared to last year. Last year we would cough during practice and our throats would burn, no none of those are happening"

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I'm not sure it's a good idea to evaluate potential lung exposure and injury by comparing it to last year's "coughing and throat burning." The fine particulates entering your lungs are too small to see or even feel. Any athlete would behoove themself to heed official public health warnings, and NOT go on "feel" or anecdotal evidence.

I feel for those athletes who feel obligated to attend training sessions in this air quality. I hope they can do so with the aid of filters, respirators and/or masks. No reason for a young athlete to do lasting damage when exercise can be avoided, or the damage mitigated.

I've been wearing N95 masks outside whenever the AQI goes much over 100. I very much value my lungs and would like to prevent unnecessary damage if I can. I'd much rather be cycling & engaging in other physical activity in 20 years than be strapped to an oxygen tank suffering from some lung (or other) ailment in retirement.

I'll add that a macho, cavalier attitude in youth is probably greatly regretted by those, for example, who pooh-poohed asbestos exposure warnings who now suffer from mesothelioma.

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You are missing the point (or willfully disregarding it). Last year i LOUDLY called for the cancellation of the Wazzu game based in large part on what my classmates said. This year they are saying it's not impacting them.

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And this year it seems you REALLY want to do the Bonfire Rally. Good for you, that's your thing. Sorry but yoiu're so transparent it's ridiculous.

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YOu seem to have some pathological thing about me... it's weird. Why don't you send me a direct message and identify yourself so we can discuss. I doubt you will because people like you don't. As I said, everything is secondary to the players' and students' health. Your proof tho about the quality of the air was that people died in the fire. That's what's transparent.

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Oh man, I really don't know what to say. Should we unzip to see who has the bigger Cal schlong? Why put it on me to contact you?

Look, if you look at the AQI numbers, they're just as bad or worse this year. The duration of the Camp Fire is likely to hit 2 weeks of bad AQ. Yet for some reason you want the game this year, over last year when you said it shouln't happen. My guess is you want to do the Bonfire Rally, really bad. Like I said, that's your thing, good for you. But really, why not just say that? You know, the truth will set you free.

Another Bear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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Another Bear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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TandemBear said:

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TheFiatLux said:

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travelingbears said:

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Any news on what, if anything, Cal will do to ensure the health of both the team and fans in Memorial Stadium this Saturday? Air quality has been mostly red the last few days around the bay area, and not likely to drastically improve until rain mid/late next week.

This is especially important since there are so many families with young ones who go to Cal games.

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Never mind, I feel like a dick now. For what it's worth, here is what one of my friends on a team told me just today when i asked him about the quality of the air:

"Thanks for the hype yesterday!! It's feels better, nothing compared to last year. Last year we would cough during practice and our throats would burn, no none of those are happening"

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I'm not sure it's a good idea to evaluate potential lung exposure and injury by comparing it to last year's "coughing and throat burning." The fine particulates entering your lungs are too small to see or even feel. Any athlete would behoove themself to heed official public health warnings, and NOT go on "feel" or anecdotal evidence.

I feel for those athletes who feel obligated to attend training sessions in this air quality. I hope they can do so with the aid of filters, respirators and/or masks. No reason for a young athlete to do lasting damage when exercise can be avoided, or the damage mitigated.

I've been wearing N95 masks outside whenever the AQI goes much over 100. I very much value my lungs and would like to prevent unnecessary damage if I can. I'd much rather be cycling & engaging in other physical activity in 20 years than be strapped to an oxygen tank suffering from some lung (or other) ailment in retirement.

I'll add that a macho, cavalier attitude in youth is probably greatly regretted by those, for example, who pooh-poohed asbestos exposure warnings who now suffer from mesothelioma.

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You are missing the point (or willfully disregarding it). Last year i LOUDLY called for the cancellation of the Wazzu game based in large part on what my classmates said. This year they are saying it's not impacting them.

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And this year it seems you REALLY want to do the Bonfire Rally. Good for you, that's your thing. Sorry but yoiu're so transparent it's ridiculous.

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YOu seem to have some pathological thing about me... it's weird. Why don't you send me a direct message and identify yourself so we can discuss. I doubt you will because people like you don't. As I said, everything is secondary to the players' and students' health. Your proof tho about the quality of the air was that people died in the fire. That's what's transparent.

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Oh man, I really don't know what to say. Should we unzip to see who has the bigger Cal schlong? Why put it on me to contact you?

Look, if you look at the AQI numbers, they're just as bad or worse this year. The duration of the Camp Fire is likely to hit 2 weeks of bad AQ. Yet for some reason you want the game this year, over last year when you said it shouln't happen. My guess is you want to do the Bonfire Rally, really bad. Like I said, that's your thing, good for you. But really, why not just say that? You know, the truth will set you free.

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There's no measurement thing here. I would just think you'd want me to know who you are since you know who I am.

Do you not understand that should they move the game (which I would support if they do), then they will move the rally. So, you see, that is a non-factor.

But do explain again, how the # of people who died in the fire, is indicative of air quality. Why not explain that bizarre line of argument for us.

I work in the city and it's absolutely horrible right now. My college roommate is flying in from out of town for the game...would suck if the game gets cancelled but if it's anything like what it is in the city today, it would be unbearable.

Now 198 in Berkeley

oskidunker said:

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Now 198 in Berkeley

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How high's the water, mama?
Two feet high and risin'
How high's the water, papa?
Two feet high and risin'

2:50 PM Thursday Nov 15
Air Quality at Strawberry Canton Berkeley CA
AQI 217. VERY UNHEALTHY

This is from a live webcam on the 50 yard line at CMS. Current AQI: 3500. Expected to drop 1000 points by kick off:

bearister >This is from a live webcam on the 50 yard line at CMS.

yeahbut TheShow must go on!

Check out Purpleair.com - its got all the sensors. Very cool web site for air quality.

smh said:

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bearister >This is from a live webcam on the 50 yard line at CMS.

yeahbut TheShow must go on!

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Drove down from Quincy through Sacramento yesterday. Horrible air in Sac. I would not expose my kids to this. Or my parents. I don't have any respiratory issues, so I won't worry about it for about 5 hours on Saturday. It's not life changing. Probably like smoking 5 cigarettes.

Bears2thDoc said:

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2:50 PM Thursday Nov 15
Air Quality at Strawberry Canton Berkeley CA
AQI 217. VERY UNHEALTHY

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Chancellor said they would cancel classes past 200, soooo......

Now I can barely see Claremont Hotel.......which is closer than Campanile and Stadium.

I just want to say, I'm really enjoying this thread.

But what's the pH of the vapor in the air?

Do what's safe for the players If it's played, I'm there.