socaliganbear said:

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Bears2thDoc said:

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2:50 PM Thursday Nov 15
Air Quality at Strawberry Canton Berkeley CA
AQI 217. VERY UNHEALTHY

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Chancellor said they would cancel classes past 200, soooo......

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Only for engineers. The rest are acceptable collateral damage.

I am right outside CMS. Can barely see the screen of my mobile device... switching now to voice-recognition input...

Go Bare!

Berkeley, Oakland and San Francisco are taking it on the chin right now instead of Pleasanton.

Oakland 246, SF 235. Yikes.

Maybe serves us right for all of the decades of the Bay Area's smog getting blown into the central valley.

4:25PM Thursday Nov 15
Strawberry Canyon Berkeley, CA
AQI 246
VERY UNHEALTHY

Basketball ball game cancelled against Detroit.

Oh please let us reschedule. Wouldn't want the missed victory haunting us during March Madness selections. Lol.

socaliganbear said:

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Basketball ball game cancelled against Detroit.

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What's the rationale there? It's indoors.

Sources tell me the Big Game might move to Mexico City.
They have a stadium ready for American football

pingpong2 said:

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socaliganbear said:

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Basketball ball game cancelled against Detroit.

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What's the rationale there? It's indoors.

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UW study investigating outdoor wood furnaces showed that indoor air quality matches 80% of outdoor air quality after just a few hours. What you can't see CAN hurt ya.

Berkeley and Oakland at 248-ish...only need 50 or so points to make hazardous. Like duh, it's bad.

How bad? Eyes burning in Oakland, come inside, peel and onion and the onion was less of an issue.

Lebron said smoke in kings arena gave him a headache. A/C doesn't get it all

okaydo said:

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Sources tell me the Big Game might move to Mexico City.
They have a stadium ready for American football

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...and latest calculations indicate only 10% of the fans will end up beheaded.

While the AQI is a significant issue in the unhealthy range and above for all folks, it is really only a long term issue for those with respiratory issues, like asthma, old age, etc. For an athlete who is working out and handling it, there will be no lasting issue. For those who are hospitalized because they have a respiratory issue that is of course a big problem.

Of course, if the AQI particles are things like Asbestos, then of course that could be an issue. But the smoke in and of itself will not cause long term issues. Short term issues, like scratchy throats, itchy eyes, difficulty breathing, headaches are no laughing matter, and the higher particulate count the worse those issues get. Staying out when it is over 200 is not a good idea. But in terms of long term health issues for people with a healthy respiratory system should not be a problem.

This is not me talking but the head of respiratory diseases from UCSF on the radio this morning. Of course, he could just be part of the conspiracy paid by the Pac 12 network....

Apparently weekend smoke forecast will be the same as today so...

If the game is on I hope Cal will repeat their performance when played under the smokey sky last year.

Oski87 said:

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While the AQI is a significant issue in the unhealthy range and above for all folks, it is really only a long term issue for those with respiratory issues, like asthma, old age, etc. For an athlete who is working out and handling it, there will be no lasting issue.....

.....But the smoke in and of itself will not cause long term issues. Short term issues, like scratchy throats, itchy eyes, difficulty breathing, headaches are no laughing matter, and the higher particulate count the worse those issues get. Staying out when it is over 200 is not a good idea. But in terms of long term health issues for people with a healthy respiratory system should not be a problem...,

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Were you ever an expert witness for Johns Manville?

OT but not OT: Detroit @ Cal BB cancelled.

SoFlaBear said:

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OT but not OT: Detroit @ Cal BB cancelled.

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AQI at Haas of Pain half court: 750

bearister said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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OT but not OT: Detroit @ Cal BB cancelled.

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AQI at Haas of Pain half court: 750

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Jesus. We need a filter. That's insanity

Are you serious?

oskidunker said:

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Are you serious?

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You clearly don't know me yet.

bearister said:

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oskidunker said:

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Are you serious?

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You clearly don't know me yet.

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It's from all the hot air of the corporate sponsors who sit in the chairbacks.

Now hearing that the rally tomorrow is fully cancelled (from my son on Rally Comm)

Man this sucks. At this point I'd be very surprised if the game is played this Saturday. Probably for the best though...

HungryCalBear said:

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Apparently weekend smoke forecast will be the same as today so...

If the game is on I hope Cal will repeat their performance when played under the smokey sky last year.

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what? Where do you see that? Link?

Funny, I was among the minority last year that wanted the WSU game postponed or cancelled. Got mocked as a snowflake here on BI.

BearChemist said:

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Funny, I was among the minority last year that wanted the WSU game postponed or cancelled. Got mocked as a snowflake here on BI.

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No mocking. I am a bit shocked so many Bear Insiders are making fun of this - although I "clearly" note the sarcasm. But this is serious. Health issues aside, I can't help but also reflect on the nature of the smoke, and Big Game just doesn't seem the same to me this year. The whole state is facing a tragedy. Re schedule the game.

Have they said the time today (Friday) by which a decision will be made?

So I heard that as of 6:00 am, the Big Game is still considered ON. I think they really don't want to postpone it until they know for sure for sure that the AQI will be unacceptable.

72CalBear said:

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BearChemist said:

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Funny, I was among the minority last year that wanted the WSU game postponed or cancelled. Got mocked as a snowflake here on BI.

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No mocking. I am a bit shocked so many Bear Insiders are making fun of this - although I "clearly" note the sarcasm. But this is serious. Health issues aside, I can't help but also reflect on the nature of the smoke, and Big Game just doesn't seem the same to me this year. The whole state is facing a tragedy. Re schedule the game.

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UC counsel will have to make arguments as twisted as a balloon animal if a player has a vascular incident. "It was just a coincidence! No scientific link! But the NCAA Guidelines say AQI 272 is safe! The dog ate my homework!"

BearChemist said:

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Funny, I was among the minority last year that wanted the WSU game postponed or cancelled. Got mocked as a snowflake here on BI.

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The air quality is definitely worse this year though. I think the WSU ended up being played with an AQI under 150?

Correct. I had a link to last years communication from UC stating the AQI was 150 the day before. 50 points below unhealthful seems reasonable. Over 200 doesn't. Right now it's at 199 in Oakland.

Is there a deadline for this decision?

I'd like the administration to consider travel and hotel plans. Many visitors from outside the area may already be screwed on cancelling, but I still think the more notice, the better.

StillNoStanfurdium said:

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BearChemist said:

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Funny, I was among the minority last year that wanted the WSU game postponed or cancelled. Got mocked as a snowflake here on BI.

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The air quality is definitely worse this year though. I think the WSU ended up being played with an AQI under 150?

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I don't think that is correct:

Air regulators say Cal-Washington State game was too smoky
https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/Air-regulators-say-Cal-Washington-State-game-was-12282862.php
When the Cal football team crushed eighth-ranked Washington State 37-3 on Friday night in Berkeley, air regulators weren't cheering.

Cal's victory came on the worst day by far for fine-particle pollution ever recorded in the Bay Area. Officials at the Bay Area Air Quality Management District said Monday that the game took place when particle pollution exceeded a standard set by federal regulators. Some fans wore masks amid the haze, which was caused by the Wine Country wildfires.

"Staff sort of had a disagreement, I'll say that nicely, with Cal," Karen Mitchoff, a director at the air district, said at a meeting of the district's executive committee Monday.

These are people with no vested interest other than doing what's right.